Knicks · OT Vivek Ramaswamy (page 4)

Nalod @ 8/22/2023 9:01 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Has anyone heard this guy talk?
To me he sounds like the best presidential candidate in 25 years.
Hes so well spoken and keeps to facts and common sense without he other BS
Hes republican but really if you listen to him hes centric and thats what the US needs--a young highly intelligent centric individual who is out to help our country.

Hear him talk, or actually listen to his content?
My man, stick to hoop.

ramtour420 @ 8/22/2023 9:43 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Briggs has mentioned his family falling victim to Nazi cleansing.
Yet he leans toward sociopath fascist who projects charismatic message catering to the vulnerable conservative whose collective self esteem depends on perceiving oneself as superior citizen based in race.
I don't understand this line of thinking.

You may have made a big assumption on that last part right there

You brought up Peter Thiel, a married gay dude who routinely backs people who are disgusted by him. At least I can understand that. He's essentially motivated by greed and tax cuts. I can't understand the average Joe living in a state that has a minimum wage of $7/hr, with ridiculous medical bills that may never get paid off and a stake in the American dream that has withered away the past few decades. There is no master race and there are no plans of upward mobility for the poor and middle class under the corporate prostitutes we have masquerading as politicians. This country has become the Matrix, but instead of killer robots harvesting us it's soulless corporations.


Omg, you have it right! To take it one step further it's the soulless corporations in the military industrial, the pharma and the agricultural sectors. All the wars and military interventions that the US have been in since the WW2( close to 50). It's not only that the US population is being " harvested" for their tax money, it's that the Tax money has been used to kill people all over the world. All covered with the beautiful and flawless umbrella of democracy.
Nalod @ 8/23/2023 8:51 AM
Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

ESOMKnicks @ 8/23/2023 9:04 AM
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

ESOMKnicks @ 8/23/2023 9:07 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:Speaking of Obi Wan. That Disney series was so bad

Word. Cancelled my D+ subscription after watching that. Really do not want to ruin my perception of the SW universe, which has been enough battered by the prequels and sequels. Mando offered a new hope, but I am hearing that its 3rd season has also been subpar. Will probably watch it at some point nonetheless.

MaTT4281 @ 8/23/2023 9:24 AM
I'm looking forward to the debate tonight. I'm hoping to see some actual policy proposals and looking to see who has something to stand on other than the "X is the enemy!" rhetoric (one exception, I do look forward to Christie dunking on Trump tonight like a Comedy Central roast).

I'm very much left leaning, but am desperately longing for some sense of relief that there's an adult on the opposite side - that if the Republican wins, we'll still be OK! Don't think anyone will disagree that things are too partisan right now. At the end of the day, the social issues are the deal breaker for me, but want to see what some from the other side, who have not been in the spot light (i.e. not Trump/DeSantis) have to say.

Nalod @ 8/23/2023 10:40 AM
Surpressing voting age to 25 is not a democracy.
Voting on Saturday and Sunday offers all a chance to vote.
KnickDanger @ 8/23/2023 10:42 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.


No expert here on politics or anything, but for restoring some decency and sanity to the Oval Office Biden is okay in my book.
BigDaddyG @ 8/23/2023 11:04 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Speaking of Obi Wan. That Disney series was so bad

Word. Cancelled my D+ subscription after watching that. Really do not want to ruin my perception of the SW universe, which has been enough battered by the prequels and sequels. Mando offered a new hope, but I am hearing that its 3rd season has also been subpar. Will probably watch it at some point nonetheless.

Watched season one of Ahsoka and it is OK. Not sure I'll watch week to week tho.

BigDaddyG @ 8/23/2023 11:10 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

I think most people can agree that the federal budget can use some tightening. His ideas for doing it seems destructive. I think we've seen in recent years why the FBI is needed. The dept of education and the EPA as well. His plans seem reckless. There's a difference between wanting to re-envision and simply destroying.

newyorknewyork @ 8/23/2023 11:21 AM

First time ever hearing him speak was this. Didn't know he was actually running and thought he was a clown.

BigDaddyG @ 8/23/2023 11:36 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:

First time ever hearing him speak was this. Didn't know he was actually running and thought he was a clown.

Vivek in a nutshell.

gradyandrew @ 8/23/2023 1:59 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Nalod @ 8/23/2023 2:35 PM
I laugh when politicians say they can stop inflation.
Its like telling children about Santa. GOP racists believe what they want to believe.

Btw, inflation has come way down. Prices are not rolling back. Inflation is the velocity of increase. its slowing.
The economy is growing. Not to say we out of the woods by any stretch, but the executive branch of government does not control the economy.
Biden might be old. Biden might be shell of his former self. He is not doing that Desantis is doing in Florida to pander himself to a constituency, and Vivek is empty.
I agree make a voting holiday, but you don't have to Slam hate by doing it. Thats where he gets points with his redneck target. Paper ballots? He is subliminally saying don't trust technology.
Calling such holidays a "cult" type thing one might put Christmas on the list? What is religion if not widely accepted? A cult? LOL
Juneteenth goes way back and was a holiday in 45 states, including Texas before it was federalized.
Republicans seem to gain favor by being an asshole to all but the white majority and then call the rest "woke" or "Liberals".
I back "With liberty and justice for all"

martin @ 8/23/2023 2:39 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

They've already been on the debate stage together once, Trump already lost.

Vivek is going to die a very quick candidate death.

BRIGGS @ 8/23/2023 3:06 PM
Nalod wrote:I laugh when politicians say they can stop inflation.
Its like telling children about Santa. GOP racists believe what they want to believe.

Btw, inflation has come way down. Prices are not rolling back. Inflation is the velocity of increase. its slowing.
The economy is growing. Not to say we out of the woods by any stretch, but the executive branch of government does not control the economy.
Biden might be old. Biden might be shell of his former self. He is not doing that Desantis is doing in Florida to pander himself to a constituency, and Vivek is empty.
I agree make a voting holiday, but you don't have to Slam hate by doing it. Thats where he gets points with his redneck target. Paper ballots? He is subliminally saying don't trust technology.
Calling such holidays a "cult" type thing one might put Christmas on the list? What is religion if not widely accepted? A cult? LOL
Juneteenth goes way back and was a holiday in 45 states, including Texas before it was federalized.
Republicans seem to gain favor by being an asshole to all but the white majority and then call the rest "woke" or "Liberals".
I back "With liberty and justice for all"

Forget politicians—-I’m very concerned with runaway inflation. 85-90% of Americans probably have overwhelming mortgages or rent. That’s not including food insurance transportation etc.. All of these politicians don’t know what it is to make 25-30$ an hour yet still live near poverty. They’ll say work harder😿
Go out to eat and two dinners and a salad is now 100$ when it was 50 5 years ago. We’ve left the next generation financial issues not easily solved.

gradyandrew @ 8/23/2023 3:15 PM
martin wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

They've already been on the debate stage together once, Trump already lost.

Vivek is going to die a very quick candidate death.

That was (checking watch) 3 years ago. I'm just going by recent appearances at the mic where Joe looks old and doddering and Trump is still going strong an hour into a speech without notes. There were a lot of factors working against Trump in 2000, Coviid, the recession, the impeachment trials, etc. and he still almost won. Trump's indictments haven't done anything to hurt his rep with Republican voters yet and likely won't.

newyorknewyork @ 8/23/2023 3:21 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

newyorknewyork @ 8/23/2023 3:29 PM
Nalod wrote:I laugh when politicians say they can stop inflation.
Its like telling children about Santa. GOP racists believe what they want to believe.

Btw, inflation has come way down. Prices are not rolling back. Inflation is the velocity of increase. its slowing.
The economy is growing. Not to say we out of the woods by any stretch, but the executive branch of government does not control the economy.
Biden might be old. Biden might be shell of his former self. He is not doing that Desantis is doing in Florida to pander himself to a constituency, and Vivek is empty.
I agree make a voting holiday, but you don't have to Slam hate by doing it. Thats where he gets points with his redneck target. Paper ballots? He is subliminally saying don't trust technology.
Calling such holidays a "cult" type thing one might put Christmas on the list? What is religion if not widely accepted? A cult? LOL
Juneteenth goes way back and was a holiday in 45 states, including Texas before it was federalized.
Republicans seem to gain favor by being an asshole to all but the white majority and then call the rest "woke" or "Liberals".
I back "With liberty and justice for all"

They saw that sales didn't drop with the price increases even if supply was no longer limited.

gradyandrew @ 8/23/2023 3:46 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

Getting convicted of a crime is a lot harder than getting elected. Remember the rape conviction was a civil suit in New York and it's still on appeal. I'm just trying to picture jury selection in Georgia. How do you find 12 people who don't have an opinion one way or another?

The nation is too divided to handle another Trump run.

martin @ 8/23/2023 3:56 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

They've already been on the debate stage together once, Trump already lost.

Vivek is going to die a very quick candidate death.

That was (checking watch) 3 years ago. I'm just going by recent appearances at the mic where Joe looks old and doddering and Trump is still going strong an hour into a speech without notes. There were a lot of factors working against Trump in 2000, Coviid, the recession, the impeachment trials, etc. and he still almost won. Trump's indictments haven't done anything to hurt his rep with Republican voters yet and likely won't.

There is a wide swath of idiots who still support Trump but what you claim here is incorrect.

Actually a lot of what you have written is not correct.

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