Knicks · OT Vivek Ramaswamy (page 5)

martin @ 8/23/2023 3:56 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
martin wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

They've already been on the debate stage together once, Trump already lost.

Vivek is going to die a very quick candidate death.

That was (checking watch) 3 years ago. I'm just going by recent appearances at the mic where Joe looks old and doddering and Trump is still going strong an hour into a speech without notes. There were a lot of factors working against Trump in 2000, Coviid, the recession, the impeachment trials, etc. and he still almost won. Trump's indictments haven't done anything to hurt his rep with Republican voters yet and likely won't.

There is a wide swath of idiots who still support Trump but what you claim here is incorrect.

Actually a lot of what you have written is not correct.

newyorknewyork @ 8/23/2023 4:17 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

Getting convicted of a crime is a lot harder than getting elected. Remember the rape conviction was a civil suit in New York and it's still on appeal. I'm just trying to picture jury selection in Georgia. How do you find 12 people who don't have an opinion one way or another?

The nation is too divided to handle another Trump run.

Due to already being convicted of rape that "should" eliminate anyone from being able to run. If he were to win the appeal putting the trial back on. Then I could see the case for him being able to run. But that would be Democracy which he and his base tried to overthrow.

He attempted a coup live on television. There should already be grounds for withholding him from being able to run until he is able to clear himself from treason. But this just me saying what should be due to the nature of treason and the position he is looking to obtain. And surprised and alarmed that this isn't already the case.

And again just through the game of politics alone even if you weren't someone morally inclined. The fact that it isn't hammered home that the biggest threat in Trump has been convicted of rape to the American public is a grave misstep. His base isn't going to care. But you want to ensure anyone who for some reason is on the fence is clearly aware.

Alpha1971 @ 8/23/2023 5:15 PM
Dems no longer have to yield to Republicans trying to play the high moral ground. The Conservatives have forever lost the grounds to question the morality of a Hunter Biden or Hilary Clinton or anyone with the morally bankrupt people they support. If your not a billionaire I can't see how you like Conservative fiscal policy. Look at your wallets people
gradyandrew @ 8/23/2023 6:50 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

Getting convicted of a crime is a lot harder than getting elected. Remember the rape conviction was a civil suit in New York and it's still on appeal. I'm just trying to picture jury selection in Georgia. How do you find 12 people who don't have an opinion one way or another?

The nation is too divided to handle another Trump run.

Due to already being convicted of rape that "should" eliminate anyone from being able to run. If he were to win the appeal putting the trial back on. Then I could see the case for him being able to run. But that would be Democracy which he and his base tried to overthrow.

He attempted a coup live on television. There should already be grounds for withholding him from being able to run until he is able to clear himself from treason. But this just me saying what should be due to the nature of treason and the position he is looking to obtain. And surprised and alarmed that this isn't already the case.

And again just through the game of politics alone even if you weren't someone morally inclined. The fact that it isn't hammered home that the biggest threat in Trump has been convicted of rape to the American public is a grave misstep. His base isn't going to care. But you want to ensure anyone who for some reason is on the fence is clearly aware.

It was a civil suit, not a criminal case. The Constitution is clear about what offenses bar someone from holding the presidency. Don't hold your breath expecting a Georgia jury to come back with a conviction for insurrection.

The problem is that the Dems have made an 8 year campaign trying to convince American voters that Trump is a villain while ignoring that a lot of Americans agree with what he says. Every time the argument boils down to "Trump voters are idiots who don't know what's good for them" the Dems lose.

Alpha1971 @ 8/23/2023 8:12 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

Getting convicted of a crime is a lot harder than getting elected. Remember the rape conviction was a civil suit in New York and it's still on appeal. I'm just trying to picture jury selection in Georgia. How do you find 12 people who don't have an opinion one way or another?

The nation is too divided to handle another Trump run.

Due to already being convicted of rape that "should" eliminate anyone from being able to run. If he were to win the appeal putting the trial back on. Then I could see the case for him being able to run. But that would be Democracy which he and his base tried to overthrow.

He attempted a coup live on television. There should already be grounds for withholding him from being able to run until he is able to clear himself from treason. But this just me saying what should be due to the nature of treason and the position he is looking to obtain. And surprised and alarmed that this isn't already the case.

And again just through the game of politics alone even if you weren't someone morally inclined. The fact that it isn't hammered home that the biggest threat in Trump has been convicted of rape to the American public is a grave misstep. His base isn't going to care. But you want to ensure anyone who for some reason is on the fence is clearly aware.

It was a civil suit, not a criminal case. The Constitution is clear about what offenses bar someone from holding the presidency. Don't hold your breath expecting a Georgia jury to come back with a conviction for insurrection.

The problem is that the Dems have made an 8 year campaign trying to convince American voters that Trump is a villain while ignoring that a lot of Americans agree with what he says. Every time the argument boils down to "Trump voters are idiots who don't know what's good for them" the Dems lose.


Basic lesson from Democracy is if you lose you lose. You don't try to overturn an election with force. You don't push aside the will of the majority of voters, in the electoral college system. Dems would not to that to Republicans and haven't. If Republicans as you say agree with that logic, then, I am losing all respect for them. Trump voters for me are not idiots but people who could wipe away my vote as if it didn't occur without any hesitation or respect for my role in the Democratic process. While claiming to be victims. Justice demands Trump pay for it. It was a crime. But Trump knew his base were suckers from the second he said " I can kill someone in broad daylight and I could get away with it. He can sell them anything, because they want to be lied to as long as he entertains them
HofstraBBall @ 8/23/2023 10:18 PM
I see that Briggs has as much insight on Republican politicians as he has on long shot draft picks.

Ramaswamy is running for a Trump VP nod.
His arrogance and inexperience makes him a perfect match.

martin @ 8/23/2023 10:41 PM
Lol

martin @ 8/23/2023 10:46 PM
Like what the actual fuck

BigDaddyG @ 8/23/2023 10:52 PM
More nuclear plants and less regulation over them. That makes sense to me...
BigDaddyG @ 8/23/2023 10:55 PM
martin @ 8/23/2023 11:05 PM
These are great

BigDaddyG @ 8/23/2023 11:17 PM
God, this is a crap show. Briggs, why don't you run for the GOP nomination? I can't imagine you'd be worse than any of these candidates...
martin @ 8/23/2023 11:31 PM
Single women/mothers are staying single because the single mom calculus is that they get more federal money to not have a man in their home and that relates to the failure of our education of children something something?

Did I get that right?

BigDaddyG @ 8/23/2023 11:47 PM
martin wrote:Single women/mothers are staying single because the single mom calculus is that they get more federal money to not have a man in their home and that relates to the failure of our education of children something something?

Did I get that right?


Didn't realize he hired Andrew Tate on as a campaign advisor. Not completely untrue. There are some woman with this mentality, but talk about broad generalizations. Up there with Reagan's welfare queen propaganda.
newyorknewyork @ 8/24/2023 12:01 AM
gradyandrew wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/...

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

Getting convicted of a crime is a lot harder than getting elected. Remember the rape conviction was a civil suit in New York and it's still on appeal. I'm just trying to picture jury selection in Georgia. How do you find 12 people who don't have an opinion one way or another?

The nation is too divided to handle another Trump run.

Due to already being convicted of rape that "should" eliminate anyone from being able to run. If he were to win the appeal putting the trial back on. Then I could see the case for him being able to run. But that would be Democracy which he and his base tried to overthrow.

He attempted a coup live on television. There should already be grounds for withholding him from being able to run until he is able to clear himself from treason. But this just me saying what should be due to the nature of treason and the position he is looking to obtain. And surprised and alarmed that this isn't already the case.

And again just through the game of politics alone even if you weren't someone morally inclined. The fact that it isn't hammered home that the biggest threat in Trump has been convicted of rape to the American public is a grave misstep. His base isn't going to care. But you want to ensure anyone who for some reason is on the fence is clearly aware.

It was a civil suit, not a criminal case. The Constitution is clear about what offenses bar someone from holding the presidency. Don't hold your breath expecting a Georgia jury to come back with a conviction for insurrection.

The problem is that the Dems have made an 8 year campaign trying to convince American voters that Trump is a villain while ignoring that a lot of Americans agree with what he says. Every time the argument boils down to "Trump voters are idiots who don't know what's good for them" the Dems lose.

And I said it should bar anyone from running. Why I put should in quotation marks.

All Presidents are under the microscope. Comes with holding the most powerful position in the world.

Pointing out Trumps villainous acts isn't trying to convince Americans of he is a villain. Its simply pointing out his villainous acts. In court though the amount of evidence and facts won't be as easy to spin as the media a person consumes on a daily basis would be. A juror is gonna have to sit down and listen to all the facts and mountains of evidence laid out before them. He can't just spin that the crooked left are just putting me through this which hunt in order to interfere with my election for the jurors. When his own GOP party members who were accomplices are on the stand testifying against him in front of these jurors. Breaking down the exact plot they came up with for the coup. He will say that in his interviews outside of court for the public. But the jury will be getting a lot more information than the sound bite from his interview, or a tilted media segment that covers it. Trump and his lawyers have already been destroyed in court over these years trying to claim the election was rigged. They will continued to get destroyed in court.

And Georgia is just one of multiple trials and charges on his docket. The classified documents case is just as rough for him. He is currently facing 641 years off his current charges. With more charges still set to come. That's a lot of years to overcome, to get no years and still get to run for Prez.

ESOMKnicks @ 8/24/2023 1:20 AM
Ok, so Vivek wants to end aid to Ukraine. Forget him then.
martin @ 8/24/2023 1:30 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:Ok, so Vivek wants to end aid to Ukraine. Forget him then.

Not for nothing but this is the pervasive position of the Republicans party as a whole.

Because they know if they don’t take that position, their dark money SuperPAC lifeline ends.

ESOMKnicks @ 8/24/2023 1:38 AM
martin wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:Ok, so Vivek wants to end aid to Ukraine. Forget him then.

Not for nothing but this is the pervasive position of the Republicans party as a whole.

Because they know if they don’t take that position, their dark money SuperPAC lifeline ends.

I don't believe I am actually saying this: but what are the military-industrial complex's lobbyists planning to do about this?

Alpha1971 @ 8/24/2023 6:56 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
martin wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:Ok, so Vivek wants to end aid to Ukraine. Forget him then.

Not for nothing but this is the pervasive position of the Republicans party as a whole.

Because they know if they don’t take that position, their dark money SuperPAC lifeline ends.

I don't believe I am actually saying this: but what are the military-industrial complex's lobbyists planning to do about this?

What is Big Pharma lobbyists going to do about the abortion pill and birth control pills which will also come under attack soon by the American Taliban and Mullahs in the Federal and Supreme judiciary ?

martin @ 8/24/2023 7:15 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
martin wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:Ok, so Vivek wants to end aid to Ukraine. Forget him then.

Not for nothing but this is the pervasive position of the Republicans party as a whole.

Because they know if they don’t take that position, their dark money SuperPAC lifeline ends.

I don't believe I am actually saying this: but what are the military-industrial complex's lobbyists planning to do about this?

It's a good point. But right now one would guess the money-takers that have been suckling at the teet of the dwindling NRA machine are now just waffling between the military-industrial complex and the oil disruption money coming out of the middle east and Russia.

It's a tough life that will catch up to them soon. Hopefully.

martin @ 8/24/2023 8:39 AM
Vivek has that cheerful consultant vibe that goes along with someone hired to lay off half the company as he walks into a room full of instantly smitten employees, all lemming-like and lovingly batting their eyes moments before they are escorted out of the building and told the 25 year service they gave to the company is worthy of that $0.99 thruway coffee cup they hand out as a booby prize to hold them over til they get a new job, cause unbeknownst to his devoted followers, not even an ounce of severance will make it their way, coffers gotta stay stout for the exec's and their wives and mistresses too and then golden parachute and yacht and a few random abortions for us but not for you cause pro-life, pro-family, don't forget to buy some more guns and see you at church on Sunday you'all. Thanks and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

That level of skin-deep care and thoughtfulness. But he talks nice and uses fun phrases and words so there is that.

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