Knicks · OT Vivek Ramaswamy (page 9)

martin @ 8/25/2023 7:47 PM
Mitt Romney has some thoughts that run countervailing to whatever someone else told Vivek to spew about Ukraine and Russia.

HofstraBBall @ 8/25/2023 8:19 PM
martin wrote:Someone who knows more about the career of Vivek please help me understand if this is right or wrong and please fill in the details for me.

This guy looks and sounds like a piece of shit.

On the eve of his idol posing for a mugshot he does his best to steal every one of his hateful lines. He will keep saying whatever it takes to get the cults support,

I am sure he has noticed how Trump has started all these shadow corporations to funnel hundreds of millions of dollars from the brainless cult. Last I checked he was up to 5. Which I love. Let the Trump sheep send every bit of their 20k annual salary. Trump finally found a successful business. Fuck steaks, casinos, online education or real estate. Mindless uneducated people who hate is the ticket. Problem with Trump and guys like this is they have and will do so much damage in separating the US. Which is what they want. A hateful cult is easily triggered to keep on donating. .

What's funny is that Far right Republicans are not smart enough to realize that they are digging their own graves. Too arrogant to realize that a path with Trump or Vivek will lead to defeat in 24. They don't realize the majority of the US is not as blind as they are.

The debate was a joke. Politicians at their best. Pushing lies they hope the ignorant don't check. They don't.

HofstraBBall @ 8/25/2023 8:42 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.


LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

He has actually been laying out a plan of action. Which the cronies don’t do. The other presidential candidates want things to remain the same business as usual and continue to take advantage of our governmental systems for their benefits. You could see how agitated they got about Ukraine and defensive. When the truth is majority of the Americans want nothing to do with Ukraine.

People say I don’t trust him for Soros connection, the Democrats are in bed with Soros for like my life time. For the Republicans Trump did business with Soros in the past. Vevek actually sued the WEF.

We need a man of the people, get rid of the Rinos all of them. We need term limits on everyone. We are some 30-35 Trillion in debt as a nation. Have modern day opium war going on with China. I don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat we need to get together as a nation. It’s going to take an outsider, because the political cronies are set in their ways.

What plans and why do you think those plans are beneficial to the United States and her people?

The Soros stuff is on another level of utter whackiness for me. Do have fun with that, it’ll get you down a rabbit hole of no escape eventually.

Martin, I’m sure you dug that rabbit hole so deep Lake Ontario is seeping into. The problem is you can’t get out of your own rabbit hole. Have fun getting.

Rabbit holes = Ignorance

Deficit - Reps rabbit hole. Caused by Biden.
The Republicans recently asked for over 7 billion in earmarks. Dems 2 billion.
Trump has record for adding to deficit. $8 trillion. Most that went to prop up his cronies in the market and owned big businesses.

Crime- Reps rabbit hole. It's Bidens/Dems fault.
Except for DC, most of top crime states are red states.
Because of loose gun laws, the US has 60 gun related deaths every 24 hours.

High inflation. Reps rabbit hole. Bidens fault.
Inflation is high ALL over world. Biden not president everywhere.
US fifth lowest
Biggest contributor are Oil companies. Biggest Republican donors
Why would they lower prices/inflation/profits to help Biden?
How many major food and retail companies are anti Democrat? Who favor higher tax rates for corporatio.
Let's also forget Trump declaring war in China goods. Thought we were all on board due to the unfair trade practices of China. You did know it would mean higher prices right?

DOJ going after mango Mussolini. Bidens fault.
So then Biden is better than Trump?
After all, Trump vowed to arrest and prosecute Hilary and Hunter. He didn't. Guess he sucks at that too. Biden must be a better leader if he can get the DOJ, DC, State of NY, State of Georgia (Republican) to do his bidding. Soon to be Michigan and Arizona too.

Last I checked, people are making money, stock market doing well and everyone is working. Only problem seems to be we have a big part of this nations population who minimize law and order, want to remove the freedoms of those they don't agree with, don't care about the damage lax gun laws are doing and don't believe in science. We need a platform that removes those people rather than those under the age of 25. Ie. The smart ones. (Not cronies)

Alpha1971 @ 8/25/2023 9:11 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.


LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

He has actually been laying out a plan of action. Which the cronies don’t do. The other presidential candidates want things to remain the same business as usual and continue to take advantage of our governmental systems for their benefits. You could see how agitated they got about Ukraine and defensive. When the truth is majority of the Americans want nothing to do with Ukraine.

People say I don’t trust him for Soros connection, the Democrats are in bed with Soros for like my life time. For the Republicans Trump did business with Soros in the past. Vevek actually sued the WEF.

We need a man of the people, get rid of the Rinos all of them. We need term limits on everyone. We are some 30-35 Trillion in debt as a nation. Have modern day opium war going on with China. I don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat we need to get together as a nation. It’s going to take an outsider, because the political cronies are set in their ways.

What plans and why do you think those plans are beneficial to the United States and her people?

The Soros stuff is on another level of utter whackiness for me. Do have fun with that, it’ll get you down a rabbit hole of no escape eventually.

Martin, I’m sure you dug that rabbit hole so deep Lake Ontario is seeping into. The problem is you can’t get out of your own rabbit hole. Have fun getting.

Rabbit holes = Ignorance

Deficit - Reps rabbit hole. Caused by Biden.
The Republicans recently asked for over 7 billion in earmarks. Dems 2 billion.
Trump has record for adding to deficit. $8 trillion. Most that went to prop up his cronies in the market and owned big businesses.

Crime- Reps rabbit hole. It's Bidens/Dems fault.
Except for DC, most of top crime states are red states.
Because of loose gun laws, the US has 60 gun related deaths every 24 hours.

High inflation. Reps rabbit hole. Bidens fault.
Inflation is high ALL over world. Biden not president everywhere.
US fifth lowest
Biggest contributor are Oil companies. Biggest Republican donors
Why would they lower prices/inflation/profits to help Biden?
How many major food and retail companies are anti Democrat? Who favor higher tax rates for corporatio.
Let's also forget Trump declaring war in China goods. Thought we were all on board due to the unfair trade practices of China. You did know it would mean higher prices right?

DOJ going after mango Mussolini. Bidens fault.
So then Biden is better than Trump?
After all, Trump vowed to arrest and prosecute Hilary and Hunter. He didn't. Guess he sucks at that too. Biden must be a better leader if he can get the DOJ, DC, State of NY, State of Georgia (Republican) to do his bidding. Soon to be Michigan and Arizona too.

Last I checked, people are making money, stock market doing well and everyone is working. Only problem seems to be we have a big part of this nations population who minimize law and order, want to remove the freedoms of those they don't agree with, don't care about the damage lax gun laws are doing and don't believe in science. We need a platform that removes those people rather than those under the age of 25. Ie. The smart ones. (Not cronies)

Hofstra great points. Our Republicans friends will just dismiss that as woke propoganda.

Swishfm3 @ 8/25/2023 10:53 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Has anyone heard this guy talk?
To me he sounds like the best presidential candidate in 25 years.
Hes so well spoken and keeps to facts and common sense without he other BS
Hes republican but really if you listen to him hes centric and thats what the US needs--a young highly intelligent centric individual who is out to help our country.

Are you fcuking kidding me dude?

This pretty much solidifies my opinion on you. Damn man.

CanItGetAnyWorse @ 8/26/2023 6:43 AM
foosballnick wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.


LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

I‘d say I like the following:

-Elimination of the FBI
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

The system is completely currupted and run in large part by corporations and organized crime. The family has been destroyed.
If we don‘t do some of what he saud, we are done as a nation and will fall under UN control.
Already the USD is being removed from global reserve status. Do we want to be run by BRICS countries/currency?

Alpha1971 @ 8/26/2023 7:45 AM
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.


LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

I‘d say I like the following:

-Elimination of the FBI
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

The system is completely currupted and run in large part by corporations and organized crime. The family has been destroyed.
If we don‘t do some of what he saud, we are done as a nation and will fall under UN control.
Already the USD is being removed from global reserve status. Do we want to be run by BRICS countries/currency?

The system you say is completely corrupt so grifter billionaires want to eliminate what oversight there is plainly in front of everyone's eye so they can completely break the law and that is good for you how ?? That's just a response to a little bit of what you said, not knowing if your being serious or ironic. Plus Chinas economy is going to shrink soon greatly so what other currency will be the world's standard ? And come to think of it what if it becomes the Euro or the Yen or the Pound so what ? Other countries do just fine without their currency being the standard world currency right ? Why are the problems of Conservative Billionaires determined to have complete domination of the legal system and government your best interest and your motivation to vote for their interest ???

HofstraBBall @ 8/26/2023 8:44 AM
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.


LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

I‘d say I like the following:

-Elimination of the FBI. Republicans want to remove law and order because it worked against them? Thought law and order applies to everyone? No matter how orange you are.
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education. Makes sense, why have educated people around to oversee everything the Republicans wants to change. Like getting rid of black history, maybe holocaust.
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage. No need to read about historical affects of fossil fuels. Let's go back to the 50s with pollution.
-Abandon Ukraine. Fuck them! What's in it for us? Great attitude and ignores any basic foreign policy insight on what that means to the balance of the region. Trump loves the idea of having a bigger Russia.
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty. People who think Vivek/Trump or any Republican care about poor people are dumber than I thought. (See stance on the poor people in Ukrain above)
-Eliminate the IRS Makes sense when you want to create unlimited shadow corporations, unlimited loopholes and not pay corporate taxes and have endless donations funneled to your personal account.
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
Global climate is a hoax. (Ruins oil companies profits)
-Eliminate civil services protections. Republicans already have no civility. (What happen to caring about the poor?)
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere. In favor. Trumpers in government need to go.
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder. Hope not. You obviously don't remember the horror of seeing young soldiers killed shown on national news nightly. Small minded come up with guns as only solution.
-Eliminate affirmative action. Maybe improve it? Some young kids forced to grow up in poverty should more credit than kids who grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth (Trump) and who's daddy paid for every entry into a learning institution.
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right. Already is stupid! We should add that it's acceptable for Capital police to shoot and kill any traitor crossing set barricades and entering government facilities by force.
The system is completely currupted and run in large part by corporations and organized crime. The family has been destroyed. Agreed! DOJ is actively getting rid of corruption and many are trying to bring back family values that Trump stepped on. .
If we don‘t do some of what he saud, we are done as a nation and will fall under UN control.
Already the USD is being removed from global reserve status. Do we want to be run by BRICS countries/currency?
You must have majored in economics. Fact remains that the Dollar is still highly valued. I'll let your education tell you why. This of course is yet another one of those sheep calls that has you triggered. Spread by countries your boy seems to be in love with.
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/12/118106201...

This is not a platform, it's a sheep/cattle call heard during most campaigns. . And many in the heard fall for it. Mostly the uneducated, triggered people blaming someone or something for their misery or perception of such.

Dishonest Politicians call out things that are not true, impossible to accomplish but have the average lost sheep following behind. Ie. "We need to build a wall", "Ill get Mexico to pay for it" "Get rid of the "swamp", "Maybe we can inject Clorox".

GustavBahler @ 8/26/2023 9:52 AM
GustavBahler @ 8/26/2023 9:54 AM
ramtour420 @ 8/26/2023 11:40 AM
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

martin @ 8/26/2023 11:47 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

newyorknewyork @ 8/26/2023 12:40 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.


LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

I‘d say I like the following:

-Elimination of the FBI
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

The system is completely currupted and run in large part by corporations and organized crime. The family has been destroyed.
If we don‘t do some of what he saud, we are done as a nation and will fall under UN control.
Already the USD is being removed from global reserve status. Do we want to be run by BRICS countries/currency?

The system you say is completely corrupt so grifter billionaires want to eliminate what oversight there is plainly in front of everyone's eye so they can completely break the law and that is good for you how ?? That's just a response to a little bit of what you said, not knowing if your being serious or ironic. Plus Chinas economy is going to shrink soon greatly so what other currency will be the world's standard ? And come to think of it what if it becomes the Euro or the Yen or the Pound so what ? Other countries do just fine without their currency being the standard world currency right ? Why are the problems of Conservative Billionaires determined to have complete domination of the legal system and government your best interest and your motivation to vote for their interest ???

Its amazing isn't it.

The idea that corrupt politicians and billionaires don't go hand in hand. Where do they think politicians get tons of funding from in order to push agenda that favors billionaires/corporations. That we all pretty much come to the conclusion that all roads lead to this being the root problem.

But people really fell and still fall for "outsider" Trump as he campaigned himself. Like he wasn't donating funding to policy that favored him and big business over the little guy attempting to sway policy for the 1% over majority view. And people still to this day believe he is their voice and fights for them against the establishment and deep state.

https://ballotpedia.org/History_of_Donal...

Trump was questioned about his previous political contributions to Democrats while on the campaign trail. During a June 2015 interview, Trump was asked why he donated to the Clinton Foundation and prominent Democrats, including former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.), and Obama White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.

Trump replied, “It’s smart. It’s called being an intelligent person and a great business person. ... But the truth is that, you have to be able to get along with—if you’re gonna be a business person, even in the United States, you wanna get along with all sides because you’re gonna need things from everybody. And you wanna get along with all sides, it’s very important.”[1]

From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750.
Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans.
Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.

So rather than elect a "politician" who probably is corrupt and compromised due to having to favor his donors. Ppl decided cutting out the middle man and support/elect a "billionaire/millionaire". Who would be the one attempting to compromise the politicians in the first place. Would be the move in order to combat the corruption. BRILLIANT!

Not to mention billionaires in general get & stay rich because they don't use their own money. So the idea that they can't be bought because they are already rich, sigh.

If we were to weigh the actual odds that Vivek wouldn't be able to be bought and would actually push the agenda that will benefit you and me. Actually get it done against the establishment & corporate rule. Vs Vivek grifting the crap out of the MAGA base and anyone else who isn't directly MAGA, but just want things shaken up without thinking through who they are putting in office. While also getting in bed with corporations that he can benefit off of. Enriching himself even more and leveraging for more long term power to continue to enrich himself. While overall accomplishing nothing meaningful that benefits us. Id put it at 99.9% to 01%. in favor of grifting.

Alpha1971 @ 8/26/2023 12:58 PM
GustavBahler wrote:

Biden certainly tried but Trump appointed judges did that in However Biden introduced a new approach to Federal Student debt recently that would greatly benefit students and their families that would benefit everyone despite party

GustavBahler @ 8/26/2023 1:29 PM
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

Just glad we can still criticize our government.

martin @ 8/26/2023 1:31 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

Just glad we can still criticize our government.

Right. And have windows that stay shut so that so many people don’t fall out of them.

GustavBahler @ 8/26/2023 1:39 PM
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

Just glad we can still criticize our government.

Right. And have windows that stay shut so that so many people don’t fall out of them.

That too

ramtour420 @ 8/26/2023 2:24 PM
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

My good man, not sure how much I can say before I am banned from this thread like I was from the COVID one. Nonetheless, yea I live in Russia. Your metaphors are lost on me. Pants and all. Here I. Russia we have two sexes, male and female. Everyone else goes to a psychiatrist. Things are simple, You either start wars or you fight to finish them. Ukraine confrontation started in 2014 with their government overthrown illegally. People said no way man, we are separating. Like in Niger right now. But somehow everything is reversed. Double standards. When it's against the Western agenda it's no good. I don't subscribe to the illusion of democracy. It's pretty straight forward over here. One man to rule us all. In the US it's not even a man. It's a bunch of corporations to rule everything. F that. Sure looks like the another war lost for the US. Someone sure does have their pants around their ankles. How does it feel to have your tax money start global conflicts around the world since WW2? That's about 78+ years of history. Look it up brother. You are so into politics, as you say. Cambodia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam you want more? Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti ? More? Afghanistan. How does it feel to have your tax money have people killed all over the world? You tell me. Ukraine. I don't even know what to tell you man. It's bleak.

martin @ 8/26/2023 2:31 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

My good man, not sure how much I can say before I am banned from this thread like I was from the COVID one. Nonetheless, yea I live in Russia. Your metaphors are lost on me. Pants and all. Here I. Russia we have two sexes, male and female. Everyone else goes to a psychiatrist. Things are simple, You either start wars or you fight to finish them. Ukraine confrontation started in 2014 with their government overthrown illegally. People said no way man, we are separating. Like in Niger right now. But somehow everything is reversed. Double standards. When it's against the Western agenda it's no good. I don't subscribe to the illusion of democracy. It's pretty straight forward over here. One man to rule us all. In the US it's not even a man. It's a bunch of corporations to rule everything. F that. Sure looks like the another war lost for the US. Someone sure does have their pants around their ankles. How does it feel to have your tax money start global conflicts around the world since WW2? That's about 78+ years of history. Look it up brother. You are so into politics, as you say. Cambodia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam you want more? Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti ? More? Afghanistan. How does it feel to have your tax money have people killed all over the world? You tell me. Ukraine. I don't even know what to tell you man. It's bleak.

How about this, I’ll distill it for you: you are not well informed about what is actually happening regarding student loans in America, in fact, you are dead wrong so maybe stop writing about things that you not up to speed on.

ramtour420 @ 8/26/2023 3:14 PM
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

My good man, not sure how much I can say before I am banned from this thread like I was from the COVID one. Nonetheless, yea I live in Russia. Your metaphors are lost on me. Pants and all. Here I. Russia we have two sexes, male and female. Everyone else goes to a psychiatrist. Things are simple, You either start wars or you fight to finish them. Ukraine confrontation started in 2014 with their government overthrown illegally. People said no way man, we are separating. Like in Niger right now. But somehow everything is reversed. Double standards. When it's against the Western agenda it's no good. I don't subscribe to the illusion of democracy. It's pretty straight forward over here. One man to rule us all. In the US it's not even a man. It's a bunch of corporations to rule everything. F that. Sure looks like the another war lost for the US. Someone sure does have their pants around their ankles. How does it feel to have your tax money start global conflicts around the world since WW2? That's about 78+ years of history. Look it up brother. You are so into politics, as you say. Cambodia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam you want more? Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti ? More? Afghanistan. How does it feel to have your tax money have people killed all over the world? You tell me. Ukraine. I don't even know what to tell you man. It's bleak.

How about this, I’ll distill it for you: you are not well informed about what is actually happening regarding student loans in America, in fact, you are dead wrong so maybe stop writing about things that you not up to speed on.


My own godson's loan is about 120K. One of my friends actually came to Russia to finish off her Bachelor's in veterinary science for peanuts only to come back to the US and to take the national exam, whatever it's called. With savings like you could not even imagine. Yes, if I wasn't informed I could not say stuff.Not the case
martin @ 8/26/2023 3:29 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
martin wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:

Those are great. Wonderful even. They make excellent platforms to run on. What happens when a candidate wins? Lol, take those promises and stick them. Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion. Blackrock and Vanguard will still make sure their lobby will achieve the results that THEY need. Everyone will pay their taxes and the next war the US sponsored is just around the corner. Does that drive a large part of the economy? You bet your sweet ass it does

Ramtour, you live in Russia, right? Where do you get your information from and how thoroughly do you pay attention to the topics you are commenting on?

Cause to me it’s like you are walking around with your pants around your ankles wondering why you can’t take long strides and just starting to notice it’s a bit breezy out but can’t quite put your finger on what’s up

My good man, not sure how much I can say before I am banned from this thread like I was from the COVID one. Nonetheless, yea I live in Russia. Your metaphors are lost on me. Pants and all. Here I. Russia we have two sexes, male and female. Everyone else goes to a psychiatrist. Things are simple, You either start wars or you fight to finish them. Ukraine confrontation started in 2014 with their government overthrown illegally. People said no way man, we are separating. Like in Niger right now. But somehow everything is reversed. Double standards. When it's against the Western agenda it's no good. I don't subscribe to the illusion of democracy. It's pretty straight forward over here. One man to rule us all. In the US it's not even a man. It's a bunch of corporations to rule everything. F that. Sure looks like the another war lost for the US. Someone sure does have their pants around their ankles. How does it feel to have your tax money start global conflicts around the world since WW2? That's about 78+ years of history. Look it up brother. You are so into politics, as you say. Cambodia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam you want more? Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti ? More? Afghanistan. How does it feel to have your tax money have people killed all over the world? You tell me. Ukraine. I don't even know what to tell you man. It's bleak.

How about this, I’ll distill it for you: you are not well informed about what is actually happening regarding student loans in America, in fact, you are dead wrong so maybe stop writing about things that you not up to speed on.


My own godson's loan is about 120K. One of my friends actually came to Russia to finish off her Bachelor's in veterinary science for peanuts only to come back to the US and to take the national exam, whatever it's called. With savings like you could not even imagine. Yes, if I wasn't informed I could not say stuff.Not the case

What does this have to do with the claim you made above that I bolded?

Here it what you wrote: “ Student loans seem to be a big reason why so many people are struggling. Biden said he would do something about it. How did that promise work out? Yeah. It's all bs. A topic for discussion.”

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