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Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:I dont know enough about George Soros as he pertains to politics and how and what he uses his money for.

Know enough that he is a boogie man for the Republican party as a whole.

Someone can help me out here? Why is he relevant in this context?

Vmart, hit me up with some wisdom. I am interested.

He is the boogie man for the world.

How so

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:I dont know enough about George Soros as he pertains to politics and how and what he uses his money for.

Know enough that he is a boogie man for the Republican party as a whole.

Someone can help me out here? Why is he relevant in this context?

Vmart, hit me up with some wisdom. I am interested.

He is the boogie man for the world.

I take these things fairly seriously, what else do you have?

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:I dont know enough about George Soros as he pertains to politics and how and what he uses his money for.

Know enough that he is a boogie man for the Republican party as a whole.

Someone can help me out here? Why is he relevant in this context?

Vmart, hit me up with some wisdom. I am interested.

He is the boogie man for the world.

I take these things fairly seriously, what else do you have?

It's like when known pedophiles become the most vocal opponents of 'groomers'. I'm not saying child abuse isn't the problem, but it's hypocritical when their sole motivation is just take the heat off of their own activities. Soros is one man and is indicative of the problem with our current campaign financing system. But he is nowhere near the worst and the people leveling these accusations are usually in bed with donors of an even more nefarious nature.

foosballnick wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.

LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.

LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Such as that "climate change is a hoax"? Or that "we should divert the military spending with Ukraine to instead have our military protect us from the invasion on our southern border"?

He's not running for President...he's trying to line himself up to be Veep in case the Don doesn't end up in prison and somehow manages to win an election, however unlikely that may be.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:I dont know enough about George Soros as he pertains to politics and how and what he uses his money for.

Know enough that he is a boogie man for the Republican party as a whole.

Someone can help me out here? Why is he relevant in this context?

Vmart, hit me up with some wisdom. I am interested.

He is the boogie man for the world.

I take these things fairly seriously, what else do you have?

It's like when known pedophiles become the most vocal opponents of 'groomers'. I'm not saying child abuse isn't the problem, but it's hypocritical when their sole motivation is just take the heat off of their own activities. Soros is one man and is indicative of the problem with our current campaign financing system. But he is nowhere near the worst and the people leveling these accusations are usually in bed with donors of an even more nefarious nature.

Leondard Leo is going to be going through some things over the next years. His name will become familiar to everyone.

Harlan Crow. TBD how intertwined these guys are: Wayne Huizenga, David Sokol and Paul "Tony" Novelly

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

Or make 25 the min age for military service. If they can't vote at 18-24 why should they be mature enough to enlist or be drafted ?

Someone who knows more about the career of Vivek please help me understand if this is right or wrong and please fill in the details for me.

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That Soros at it again!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Ra...

In May 2023, Ramaswamy's campaign admitted that he had paid an editor to alter his Wikipedia biography before announcing his candidacy but denied that the payment for edits was politically motivated.[26] The edits to the Wikipedia biography removed references to Ramaswamy's postgraduate fellowship from the George Soros-funded Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans, as well as his involvement with the Ohio COVID-19 Response Team.[26][68] Paul and Daisy Soros are the elder brother and sister-in-law, respectively, of businessman and social activist George Soros, who has been the subject of numerous conspiracy theories among American conservatives.[69] Ramaswamy's campaign denied attempting to "scrub" his Wikipedia page and argued the edits were revisions of "factual distortions."[26]

Not for nothing but I'd like to be on the receiving end of George Soros money. I pledge to never remove those types of references from my wiki page

Gimme the George Soros dough and I'll for sure to make it rain for everyone

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

We should take all of his talk seriously because it moves the Overton Window even further to the right.

They did the same thing with child labor laws. It was a bad joke until some states all but repealed them.

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

We should take all of his talk seriously because it moves the Overton Window even further to the right.

They did the same thing with child labor laws. It was a bad joke until some states all but repealed them.

100% if I understand you correctly

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

We should take all of his talk seriously because it moves the Overton Window even further to the right.

They did the same thing with child labor laws. It was a bad joke until some states all but repealed them.

100% if I understand you correctly

If you agree 100 pct.. you do!

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

We should take all of his talk seriously because it moves the Overton Window even further to the right.

They did the same thing with child labor laws. It was a bad joke until some states all but repealed them.

100% if I understand you correctly

If you agree 100 pct.. you do!

100%

Is Climate change a fraud ?

Vmart wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

I guess I get to do the honors.

LOL, Can I get a shirt with that on it?

Regarding Vivek, I don‘t trust him due to the Soros money he received but I admit I liked what he had to say.

Just curious, what part of his platform do you like?

Here's some directly from his campaign website....

-Elimination of the FBI
-Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military
-Elimination of the Nuclear Regulatory commission
-Elimination of the Deparment of Education
-Promotion of Fossil Fuel usage
-Abandon Ukraine
-Promote capitalism as a tool to eliminate poverty
-Eliminate the IRS
-Elimination of greenor climate change standards (i.e. clean air act, carbon emmissions etc)
-Eliminate Federal Government unions
-Eliminate civil servics protections
-Eliminate remote work
-Eiminate 75% of federal jobs in DC and move them elsewhere
-Promote a higher level of drilling, fracking and burning coal
-Deploy the military at the southern boarder
-Eliminate affirmative action
-Make political expression (i.e. January 6th) a civil right

IMO....he seems to want an Executive Branch authoritarian method to initiate a wrecking ball type anarchy approach but has little substance as to the impacts and how this would all work without complete anarchy. Also pretty much ignoring how 3 branch constitutional republic government works.

He has actually been laying out a plan of action. Which the cronies don’t do. The other presidential candidates want things to remain the same business as usual and continue to take advantage of our governmental systems for their benefits. You could see how agitated they got about Ukraine and defensive. When the truth is majority of the Americans want nothing to do with Ukraine.

People say I don’t trust him for Soros connection, the Democrats are in bed with Soros for like my life time. For the Republicans Trump did business with Soros in the past. Vevek actually sued the WEF.

We need a man of the people, get rid of the Rinos all of them. We need term limits on everyone. We are some 30-35 Trillion in debt as a nation. Have modern day opium war going on with China. I don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat we need to get together as a nation. It’s going to take an outsider, because the political cronies are set in their ways.

What we need is a different debate to what a guy like Vivek will actually do.

Regarding your comment about needing a "man of the people"- exactly how is an Ivy League venture, hedge fund billionaire a man of the people? He made big money essentially by pumping stock deals and slowly milking his company dry.

Regarding your outsider comment - Vivek's platform is essentially Trump's platform. Perhaps explain how an outsider with ideas swaying extremely to one side is going to bring the country together.

Regarding Debt - this country spends close to a trillion dollars per year on defense. More than our top 10 friends ans rivals combined. Republicans always seem to cry about the debt until they have a GOP President who spends like a drunken sailor.

Regarding Ukraine - your interpretation of the polls is curious. While 55% of Americans do not want to send more weapons to Ukraine, 62% still support the war effort. Also beyond the obvious need for a response to the atrocities being committed by Putin invading a country, its important to also understand the strategic importance of showing unified strength with allies including how it will be percieved by China as well as it applies to Taiwan.

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martin wrote:

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

LMAO.

Feel it's a better idea to only allow college grads the ability to vote
No one from a red state who has more than two bumper stickers or flies a Confederate flag.
Only citizens who pass a minimal IQ test and who can name 10 facts about more than five countries.

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:> Raise voting age to 25 - unless you are in the military

Not a terrible idea. While we're at it, how about we raise the minimum age for a President to 45?

I've always had the personal opinion that it would help our country if we had a mandatory-ish national service obligation of some sort. Make it a year. Structure it so that there was built in pathways to free education and whatnot the longer you stay within that program.

I think we all may innately understand why the 25yo age limit is floated out there - impossible to actually implement but a good way to have voters who HEAVILY lean away from Republican policies get discarded as voters. It's a nice watch-the-birdie technique.

Maybe roll it back for women too, or maybe that's already the underlying "control" intent with all the abortion stuff.

Vivek's handler's come up with the best stuff.

LMAO.

Feel it's a better idea to only allow college grads the ability to vote
No one from a red state who has more than two bumper stickers or flies a Confederate flag.
Only citizens who pass a minimal IQ test and who can name 10 facts about more than five countries.

Hahahahahaha

Mitt Romney has some thoughts that run countervailing to whatever someone else told Vivek to spew about Ukraine and Russia.

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