Knicks · [Game Thread 12/30/23 @7PM] Knicks @ Pacers (page 7)

Clean @ 12/30/2023 9:57 PM
I don't think we would have beat them with a full pre-trade team tonight(minus Grimes and Mitch sick/injury scratches). Our defense sucks. They have a guard that can toy with us. Dante's shooting is nice but once Mitch went down and Grimes stop starting our defense fell off a cliff. I heard someone say us scoring 130 a night might not be enough to get wins for us. It is that bad. Even with Grimes not shooting enough he helped on defense so we were at least respectable. Now we are bottom of the league type defense.
martin @ 12/30/2023 9:59 PM
martin @ 12/30/2023 10:00 PM
Signed him for less than the MLE. Great signing

martin @ 12/30/2023 10:01 PM
Love to see it

Clean @ 12/30/2023 10:15 PM

Happy for him. He gets life changing money and will get more time to be able to grow now.
BigDaddyG @ 12/30/2023 10:34 PM
Clean wrote:
Happy for him. He gets life changing money and will get more time to be able to grow now.

Adds a little more salary for another trade too.

BigDaddyG @ 12/30/2023 10:36 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
DLeethal wrote:I am looking forward to a potential shift back to an ugly defensive mindset with our new acquisitions. This team stinks when they play uptempo and don't control pace / get stops.

Not making excuses and would agree that OG will improve defense but the entire NBA has had a tough time dealing with Pacers offense. Seeing they are number one in points scored.


Someone had to do it. Toronto taking the grenade for the rest of the league.
Alpha1971 @ 12/30/2023 10:36 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:
Happy for him. He gets life changing money and will get more time to be able to grow now.

Adds a little more salary for another trade too.

But not this season

Clean @ 12/30/2023 10:45 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:
Happy for him. He gets life changing money and will get more time to be able to grow now.

Adds a little more salary for another trade too.

I like how you think. You make a great point.

martin @ 12/30/2023 11:53 PM
LOL

BigDaddyG @ 12/31/2023 12:15 AM
nycericanguy @ 12/31/2023 7:00 AM
martin wrote:Love to see it

is that Randle in the background complaining to a ref?...lol.

HofstraBBall @ 12/31/2023 7:48 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:
Happy for him. He gets life changing money and will get more time to be able to grow now.

Adds a little more salary for another trade too.

Hmmm, was thinking this as well. But happy for him.

Do think that if he had a consistent backup role, he would show a lot more.

EwingsGlass @ 12/31/2023 8:46 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:
Happy for him. He gets life changing money and will get more time to be able to grow now.

Adds a little more salary for another trade too.

Hmmm, was thinking this as well. But happy for him.

Do think that if he had a consistent backup role, he would show a lot more.

I bet McBride earns out this contract and then some.

SergioNYK @ 12/31/2023 9:23 AM
Let's hope OGA is Scottie Pippen on defense or this is going to be the beginning of the end this season. Another game where we give up 140 points. Shit is just inexcusable. I know we were undermanned and it was on the road on the second game of a back to back and those are usually automatic losses but the defensive effort and pride is not there. Sucks we wasted DVo's career game. He was on fire all game long. We might need to send him back to bench so he can play that IQ role. Deuce should play in the rotation but you need a veteran ball handler off the bench and DVo can do that. Insert Grimes back into the SL.
SergioNYK @ 12/31/2023 9:24 AM
Clean wrote:
Happy for him. He gets life changing money and will get more time to be able to grow now.

The only positive for me about this trade is that it frees up time for Deuce. And he will take full advantage of it.

DLeethal @ 12/31/2023 10:19 AM
SergioNYK wrote:Let's hope OGA is Scottie Pippen on defense or this is going to be the beginning of the end this season. Another game where we give up 140 points. Shit is just inexcusable. I know we were undermanned and it was on the road on the second game of a back to back and those are usually automatic losses but the defensive effort and pride is not there. Sucks we wasted DVo's career game. He was on fire all game long. We might need to send him back to bench so he can play that IQ role. Deuce should play in the rotation but you need a veteran ball handler off the bench and DVo can do that. Insert Grimes back into the SL.

I think it's not simply just adding OG. But yes, adding OG, adding Precious, getting 25-30 mpg of Grimes again, and inserting Deuce into the rotation should hopefully give us a huge lift on defense that this team needs to stay in the mix this season.

Alpha1971 @ 12/31/2023 10:31 AM
DLeethal wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Let's hope OGA is Scottie Pippen on defense or this is going to be the beginning of the end this season. Another game where we give up 140 points. Shit is just inexcusable. I know we were undermanned and it was on the road on the second game of a back to back and those are usually automatic losses but the defensive effort and pride is not there. Sucks we wasted DVo's career game. He was on fire all game long. We might need to send him back to bench so he can play that IQ role. Deuce should play in the rotation but you need a veteran ball handler off the bench and DVo can do that. Insert Grimes back into the SL.

I think it's not simply just adding OG. But yes, adding OG, adding Precious, getting 25-30 mpg of Grimes again, and inserting Deuce into the rotation should hopefully give us a huge lift on defense that this team needs to stay in the mix this season.


And Hart not being the primary back up 4.
sealy @ 12/31/2023 10:32 AM
Was that the most effort on D Obi has ever put out there? Felt like it.
Clean @ 12/31/2023 10:35 AM

Grimes and Mitch deserves their flowers for carrying the defense when they were starting.
Alpha1971 @ 12/31/2023 11:08 AM
Have the Knicks dropped the lawsuit against Toronto ?
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