Nalod wrote:joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:What Dallas did to "Us"?
They did what was good for them and were sanctioned.
Does anyone really think if we took Derick Lively we'd be in the finals? Would have even drafted him?
Dallas has no interest in being fair to us. We were also sanctioned for tampering with Brunson.
Cuban did the smart thing when his team was going nowhere last year. This years draft being week proves they were smart.
Until the rules say otherwise, shit like this will happen again.
I believe him when he says they were not about revenge. It was to their advantage to pull what they did and
What they did was fucked. Just because they were sanctioned, does that mean it's ok? No. The Knicks tampered with Brunson (although I'm sure no one ever gets tampered with when they sign multi hundred million dollar deals with teams a minute after Free Agency begins with teams that they weren't supposed to be talking to until then-the application of tampering rules is spurious at best), I'm sure Dallas fans aren't all forgive and forget because they got sanctioned.
I also think the Knicks losing a second round pick for what they did, while fining the Mavs 750,000 was not equitable either. Like I said tampering is common and the league looks the other way unless a team says something. Tanking has been a major issue for years for regular picks, let alone the intracacies of the effect of them tanking to affect an in good faith deal with another team.
And who says they draft Lively?
At 11, there were plenty of good players available, let alone the flexibility of trading down or for a trade for useful NBA player.
All fair in love and war. No, sanctioned does not make it "right". Im saying they did what was best for them and the rules/santioned was not enough to influence them to not.
I think it cheats the fans and discredits the huge on line gamble business.
Dallas fans are all forgive and forget because they signed Kyrie when Jalen walked. They had a year together and good healthy. Thats why they won this year.
This take 100% agree with. The other post seemed like you were trying to make it justifiable. My apologies if I misunderstood.
Cuban is still smarting about Jalen (every now and then I come across a quote where he is trying to soften his take about the Brunson negotiations). What happened worked out for them, but they still did play legitimate dirty pool to get there. I'll admit it pisses me off they got away with it.
And I know the parallel could be the tampering, and I know I sound like an apologist, but the NBA allows tampering all the time. If they got nicked because everyone else gets hit, fine. fair play. They didn't. You can look at any free agent signing the first 30 seconds of FA and scream "Tamper!", but that never happens. I think the Knicks punishment was worse than the Mavs punishemnt (all it cost the Mavs was money that doesn't prohibit them from any player movement). It cost the Knicks a second round pick (where they have shown to be strong), opportunity for player acquisition, and flexibility.
joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:joec32033 wrote:Nalod wrote:What Dallas did to "Us"?
They did what was good for them and were sanctioned.
Does anyone really think if we took Derick Lively we'd be in the finals? Would have even drafted him?
Dallas has no interest in being fair to us. We were also sanctioned for tampering with Brunson.
Cuban did the smart thing when his team was going nowhere last year. This years draft being week proves they were smart.
Until the rules say otherwise, shit like this will happen again.
I believe him when he says they were not about revenge. It was to their advantage to pull what they did and
What they did was fucked. Just because they were sanctioned, does that mean it's ok? No. The Knicks tampered with Brunson (although I'm sure no one ever gets tampered with when they sign multi hundred million dollar deals with teams a minute after Free Agency begins with teams that they weren't supposed to be talking to until then-the application of tampering rules is spurious at best), I'm sure Dallas fans aren't all forgive and forget because they got sanctioned.
I also think the Knicks losing a second round pick for what they did, while fining the Mavs 750,000 was not equitable either. Like I said tampering is common and the league looks the other way unless a team says something. Tanking has been a major issue for years for regular picks, let alone the intracacies of the effect of them tanking to affect an in good faith deal with another team.
And who says they draft Lively?
At 11, there were plenty of good players available, let alone the flexibility of trading down or for a trade for useful NBA player.
All fair in love and war. No, sanctioned does not make it "right". Im saying they did what was best for them and the rules/santioned was not enough to influence them to not.
I think it cheats the fans and discredits the huge on line gamble business.
Dallas fans are all forgive and forget because they signed Kyrie when Jalen walked. They had a year together and good healthy. Thats why they won this year.
This take 100% agree with. The other post seemed like you were trying to make it justifiable. My apologies if I misunderstood.
Cuban is still smarting about Jalen (every now and then I come across a quote where he is trying to soften his take about the Brunson negotiations). What happened worked out for them, but they still did play legitimate dirty pool to get there. I'll admit it pisses me off they got away with it.
And I know the parallel could be the tampering, and I know I sound like an apologist, but the NBA allows tampering all the time. If they got nicked because everyone else gets hit, fine. fair play. They didn't. You can look at any free agent signing the first 30 seconds of FA and scream "Tamper!", but that never happens. I think the Knicks punishment was worse than the Mavs punishemnt (all it cost the Mavs was money that doesn't prohibit them from any player movement). It cost the Knicks a second round pick (where they have shown to be strong), opportunity for player acquisition, and flexibility.
We got Brunson, they got #10 in 2023 instead of #24 in 2024. Fair trade of dirty tricks.
I have stopped watching the playoffs after my Knicks were eliminated. I just can't watch any other team. I am the same way with my NY Football Giants.
Celts up 23 at the half. Let's get it over with and get on with what's important.
Have not watched a second of the Finals and it looks like I made the right decision. "The worst" is trending now and the full sentence is worst finals ever.
Tatum 45 minutes, Brown 44, Holiday 43…goddamn Thibs at it again….
Let the offseason begin!
Porzingis is champion! Deserved ring!
LegendD wrote:Porzingis is champion! Deserved ring!
After all these years of staying woke, he can finally get some sleep.
Was a very bad finals. Dallas had health on its side, but were totally overmatched. Celtics were dominant all year, so its not a surprise. I think we would have given them an interesting battle if we had OG in the lineup. That said if they brought in a healthy KP they still have the numbers tipped to them.
Celtics have built a formula - 5 guys who can play on the perimeter and shoot competently and play strong defense. Turning Smart/Rob/Brogdon for KP and Jrue took 3 players who really only played on one side and brought back two unique two way players. Getting White a couple years ago for Josh Richardson and Romeo Langford was one of the great trades of all time. Who knew White was basically a 6'4" do everything player.
VDesai wrote:Was a very bad finals. Dallas had health on its side, but were totally overmatched. Celtics were dominant all year, so its not a surprise. I think we would have given them an interesting battle if we had OG in the lineup. That said if they brought in a healthy KP they still have the numbers tipped to them. Celtics have built a formula - 5 guys who can play on the perimeter and shoot competently and play strong defense. Turning Smart/Rob/Brogdon for KP and Jrue took 3 players who really only played on one side and brought back two unique two way players. Getting White a couple years ago for Josh Richardson and Romeo Langford was one of the great trades of all time. Who knew White was basically a 6'4" do everything player.
Stevens did; popovich didn’t
LegendD wrote:Porzingis is champion! Deserved ring!
Douchingis and Eddy Curry both get rings now courtesy of sitting and looking
VDesai wrote:Was a very bad finals. Dallas had health on its side, but were totally overmatched. Celtics were dominant all year, so its not a surprise. I think we would have given them an interesting battle if we had OG in the lineup. That said if they brought in a healthy KP they still have the numbers tipped to them. Celtics have built a formula - 5 guys who can play on the perimeter and shoot competently and play strong defense. Turning Smart/Rob/Brogdon for KP and Jrue took 3 players who really only played on one side and brought back two unique two way players. Getting White a couple years ago for Josh Richardson and Romeo Langford was one of the great trades of all time. Who knew White was basically a 6'4" do everything player.
If we stay semi-healthy we beat the pacers and take this Celtics team to 7 games. I like Tatum and Brown no disrespect to those guys and their great accomplishment. Hate Porzingis forever I hope his leg injury doesn’t keep him out of the parade
Hey Janis, wherever you are out there, FUCK YOU TOO
VDesai wrote:Was a very bad finals. Dallas had health on its side, but were totally overmatched. Celtics were dominant all year, so its not a surprise. I think we would have given them an interesting battle if we had OG in the lineup. That said if they brought in a healthy KP they still have the numbers tipped to them. Celtics have built a formula - 5 guys who can play on the perimeter and shoot competently and play strong defense. Turning Smart/Rob/Brogdon for KP and Jrue took 3 players who really only played on one side and brought back two unique two way players. Getting White a couple years ago for Josh Richardson and Romeo Langford was one of the great trades of all time. Who knew White was basically a 6'4" do everything player.
I'm not sure Luka was healthy, and he was a lot of what Dallas is about - he probably is carrying around too much extra weight, but even healthy, Dallas was over matched - Celtics were lucky - this Championship gets an Asterisk*
franco12 wrote:VDesai wrote:Was a very bad finals. Dallas had health on its side, but were totally overmatched. Celtics were dominant all year, so its not a surprise. I think we would have given them an interesting battle if we had OG in the lineup. That said if they brought in a healthy KP they still have the numbers tipped to them. Celtics have built a formula - 5 guys who can play on the perimeter and shoot competently and play strong defense. Turning Smart/Rob/Brogdon for KP and Jrue took 3 players who really only played on one side and brought back two unique two way players. Getting White a couple years ago for Josh Richardson and Romeo Langford was one of the great trades of all time. Who knew White was basically a 6'4" do everything player.
I'm not sure Luka was healthy, and he was a lot of what Dallas is about - he probably is carrying around too much extra weight, but even healthy, Dallas was over matched - Celtics were lucky - this Championship gets an Asterisk*
Luka needs to get his weight down. Too many cervezas for him. I know posting up is a big part of his game but he is going to lose quickness as he gets older and his joints will continue to break down
