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Alpha1971 wrote:foosballnick wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:foosballnick wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:foosballnick wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:My fellow Democrats let's just stop trying to win over Trump supporters. I say this for a myriad of reasons but mostly the futility of it. Only thing that will make them abandon their leader is when they are personally affected and lose something they value. Personally I rather see Trump succeed rather than see calamity ensue. All I decided to do is just see how it goes at this point. I did my part and now just let's see what happens. Yet, trying to change people's minds, nah. Decades of Hannity, Rush, Fox OAN, and more can't be overturned with conversations.Please stop. Its not about winning over Trump supporters. It's about having a voice and continuing to express it on issues and subjects that are important to each of us as individuals. You do you....which as stated in this thread appears to be hoping that God will work it all out......but why tell everyone else what to do or how to feel?
For your own peace of mind. It was a suggestion not a mandate. Carry on as you will. But I'd recommend taking a few weeks off for your own mental peace. Trump hasn't even taken office. Why not just take a mental health break ? Plus no need to be so hyperbolic ? Who has taken your right to speak on topics ? Come on, man, chill out
We are all anonymous here. You don't know me. You know nothing about me, how I may feel, whether I am chill or angry, my family, my finances, my situation, my politics, my job, my friends nor how policies at a POTUS level may impact me in a positive or negative way. Based on that level of somewhere between zero and very low information, why would you think it prudent to make recommendations regarding peace, mental health or what I should do with my time?
Further - this I see as one of the biggest problems in society and elections with the emergence of social media. Low information opinions and recommendations have become wide spread.
Exhaust yourself with worry all you want. Enjoy it even. Or is it self righteousness that's your angle. Whatever do you. I just suggested a break from worry for a few w3ls.
Again, you continue making opinionated recommendations based on assumptions with zero to low information. Your assumption being that I'm fraught with worry or caught up in self righteousness.....rather than my real motive here which is to rebut people like you who make comments aimed at trying to stifle the voices/words of others and who present recommendations with zero to low information. Here's a hint....I agree with Martin in this thread regarding doing the research. Here's another tip....Trump's policies and actions are unlikely to hurt me personally. That being said, he spoke often and over again about vengence and even based on his first term - surrounding himself with sychophants who are loyal to him rather than the country or constitution. I would certainly question the motives or information of anyone who would not take pause and look into this, remain vigilant and even challenge this for potential adverse impacts to the country, constitution and our future
You have not written anything to convince me your not simply just commiting some form of intellectual masturbation. Oh it's hard being you with all your dedication to democracy. While the rest of us just sit on our hands, while you write essays on a Knicks forum about your commitment to our nation. I stand behind my statement, conservatives will have their shot to enact what ever they want. It's up to the populace to wake up after 4 years or possibly more, to see if it's been beneficial to them and adjust accordingly. Progressives have to be smart, pick their battles, and be patient. Brow beating others,being self righteous turns off Republicans and Independents and doesn't address what caused this result. Your offended at me why exactly ? I supported the right candidate, have articulated the same points you likely did I even believe, you concurred with me some time ago with enthusiasm. I won't be phased by a cleverly crafted attempt to burn me with sarcasm, so don't bother with that tactic. I'm too old and seen too much in life for that.
With your constant sanctimonius and condescending tone mixed in with zero/low information recommendations and a stated head in the sand preference.....not really surprising that you're a minus 1.
Ps....try to learn the difference between your and you're.
foosballnick wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:foosballnick wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:foosballnick wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:foosballnick wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:My fellow Democrats let's just stop trying to win over Trump supporters. I say this for a myriad of reasons but mostly the futility of it. Only thing that will make them abandon their leader is when they are personally affected and lose something they value. Personally I rather see Trump succeed rather than see calamity ensue. All I decided to do is just see how it goes at this point. I did my part and now just let's see what happens. Yet, trying to change people's minds, nah. Decades of Hannity, Rush, Fox OAN, and more can't be overturned with conversations.Please stop. Its not about winning over Trump supporters. It's about having a voice and continuing to express it on issues and subjects that are important to each of us as individuals. You do you....which as stated in this thread appears to be hoping that God will work it all out......but why tell everyone else what to do or how to feel?
For your own peace of mind. It was a suggestion not a mandate. Carry on as you will. But I'd recommend taking a few weeks off for your own mental peace. Trump hasn't even taken office. Why not just take a mental health break ? Plus no need to be so hyperbolic ? Who has taken your right to speak on topics ? Come on, man, chill out
We are all anonymous here. You don't know me. You know nothing about me, how I may feel, whether I am chill or angry, my family, my finances, my situation, my politics, my job, my friends nor how policies at a POTUS level may impact me in a positive or negative way. Based on that level of somewhere between zero and very low information, why would you think it prudent to make recommendations regarding peace, mental health or what I should do with my time?
Further - this I see as one of the biggest problems in society and elections with the emergence of social media. Low information opinions and recommendations have become wide spread.
Exhaust yourself with worry all you want. Enjoy it even. Or is it self righteousness that's your angle. Whatever do you. I just suggested a break from worry for a few w3ls.
Again, you continue making opinionated recommendations based on assumptions with zero to low information. Your assumption being that I'm fraught with worry or caught up in self righteousness.....rather than my real motive here which is to rebut people like you who make comments aimed at trying to stifle the voices/words of others and who present recommendations with zero to low information. Here's a hint....I agree with Martin in this thread regarding doing the research. Here's another tip....Trump's policies and actions are unlikely to hurt me personally. That being said, he spoke often and over again about vengence and even based on his first term - surrounding himself with sychophants who are loyal to him rather than the country or constitution. I would certainly question the motives or information of anyone who would not take pause and look into this, remain vigilant and even challenge this for potential adverse impacts to the country, constitution and our future
You have not written anything to convince me your not simply just commiting some form of intellectual masturbation. Oh it's hard being you with all your dedication to democracy. While the rest of us just sit on our hands, while you write essays on a Knicks forum about your commitment to our nation. I stand behind my statement, conservatives will have their shot to enact what ever they want. It's up to the populace to wake up after 4 years or possibly more, to see if it's been beneficial to them and adjust accordingly. Progressives have to be smart, pick their battles, and be patient. Brow beating others,being self righteous turns off Republicans and Independents and doesn't address what caused this result. Your offended at me why exactly ? I supported the right candidate, have articulated the same points you likely did I even believe, you concurred with me some time ago with enthusiasm. I won't be phased by a cleverly crafted attempt to burn me with sarcasm, so don't bother with that tactic. I'm too old and seen too much in life for that.
With your constant sanctimonius and condescending tone mixed in with zero/low information recommendations and a stated head in the sand preference.....not really surprising that you're a minus 1.
Ps....try to learn the difference between your and you're.
Oh boy, still at it ? Can't help yourself. For me it's over. You won, your smarter then me. You really showed me ha. Have a nice holiday Monday. Go Knicks.
BigDaddyG wrote:Hasn't even been sworn in and I'm already looking at being phucked in more ways than one.
https://gizmodo.com/trumps-proposed-tari...Trump’s Proposed Tariffs Will Hit Gamers Hard
During the campaign, Trump said he’d impose a baseline 60% tariff on Chinese exports. If he does that, the price of all the stuff gamers love is going to go up. Laptop prices could spike by almost 50%. The cost of video game consoles could rise around 40%, making the upcoming PS5 Pro cost almost $1,000. The Switch 2 may be backward compatible, but it may cost quite a bit more than the original.Trump campaigned on punishing China for a perceived trade imbalance with the United States. It was a winning issue for him in his original campaign, and one he acted on, and he spent time on the campaign trail saying he’d do it again. Trump’s broad plan is to encourage a return of U.S. manufacturing through restrictive tariffs. A tariff is a flat tax on a trade good. Trump’s two big proposals are a 10% to 20% import tariff on all goods from other countries and a 60% tariff on goods from China.
The tariffs nonsense is just like his rhetoric about the wall. Ditto for him deporting 20 million illegal immigrants. Neither is happening. It’s all just empty campaign rhetoric to motivate his idiot supporters. The corporate interests that funded Trump’s campaign aren’t going to let him do this.
The most you will see is more kids in cages and family separation stuff which has no legitimate policy objective other than create porn for his racial nationalist base.
Philc1 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Hasn't even been sworn in and I'm already looking at being phucked in more ways than one.
https://gizmodo.com/trumps-proposed-tari...Trump’s Proposed Tariffs Will Hit Gamers Hard
During the campaign, Trump said he’d impose a baseline 60% tariff on Chinese exports. If he does that, the price of all the stuff gamers love is going to go up. Laptop prices could spike by almost 50%. The cost of video game consoles could rise around 40%, making the upcoming PS5 Pro cost almost $1,000. The Switch 2 may be backward compatible, but it may cost quite a bit more than the original.Trump campaigned on punishing China for a perceived trade imbalance with the United States. It was a winning issue for him in his original campaign, and one he acted on, and he spent time on the campaign trail saying he’d do it again. Trump’s broad plan is to encourage a return of U.S. manufacturing through restrictive tariffs. A tariff is a flat tax on a trade good. Trump’s two big proposals are a 10% to 20% import tariff on all goods from other countries and a 60% tariff on goods from China.
The tariffs nonsense is just like his rhetoric about the wall. Ditto for him deporting 20 million illegal immigrants. Neither is happening. It’s all just empty campaign rhetoric to motivate his idiot supporters. The corporate interests that funded Trump’s campaign aren’t going to let him do this.
The most you will see is more kids in cages and family separation stuff which has no legitimate policy objective other than create porn for his racial nationalist base.
So far his selections for key appointments are indicative of Trump trying to do everything he promised his base. It will be a fevered, severe, and incompetent roll out of his policies in the next two years. All of us will suffer in some way. But his base will simply blame the Democrats at first for any failures. It's a cult and until they feel the damage themselves they won't believe. It's a dystopian reality. However, no argument no matter how sound will sway his supporters. It will take at least a few years before any sense will befall the electorate. The right has thoroughly obliterated a concept of knowledge and qualifications in administration. It be hysterical actually if I was not going to suffer along with them. Thing is Dems can't let those who voted for Trump have it with " I told you so " at the risk of being wrong for supporting MAGA, this bunch will just double down and we need these voters to change their minds. Can't be obnoxious to the Trump supporters. Will have to be as gentle to them as possible cause any perception of browbeating them and they will support his Maga successors. It's going to be very hard the next few years and the DNC can't fall into the traps MAGA will set up to make them look like the cause of the calamities to come
Alpha1971 wrote:Philc1 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Hasn't even been sworn in and I'm already looking at being phucked in more ways than one.
https://gizmodo.com/trumps-proposed-tari...Trump’s Proposed Tariffs Will Hit Gamers Hard
During the campaign, Trump said he’d impose a baseline 60% tariff on Chinese exports. If he does that, the price of all the stuff gamers love is going to go up. Laptop prices could spike by almost 50%. The cost of video game consoles could rise around 40%, making the upcoming PS5 Pro cost almost $1,000. The Switch 2 may be backward compatible, but it may cost quite a bit more than the original.Trump campaigned on punishing China for a perceived trade imbalance with the United States. It was a winning issue for him in his original campaign, and one he acted on, and he spent time on the campaign trail saying he’d do it again. Trump’s broad plan is to encourage a return of U.S. manufacturing through restrictive tariffs. A tariff is a flat tax on a trade good. Trump’s two big proposals are a 10% to 20% import tariff on all goods from other countries and a 60% tariff on goods from China.
The tariffs nonsense is just like his rhetoric about the wall. Ditto for him deporting 20 million illegal immigrants. Neither is happening. It’s all just empty campaign rhetoric to motivate his idiot supporters. The corporate interests that funded Trump’s campaign aren’t going to let him do this.
The most you will see is more kids in cages and family separation stuff which has no legitimate policy objective other than create porn for his racial nationalist base.
So far his selections for key appointments are indicative of Trump trying to do everything he promised his base. It will be a fevered, severe, and incompetent roll out of his policies in the next two years. All of us will suffer in some way. But his base will simply blame the Democrats at first for any failures. It's a cult and until they feel the damage themselves they won't believe. It's a dystopian reality. However, no argument no matter how sound will sway his supporters. It will take at least a few years before any sense will befall the electorate. The right has thoroughly obliterated a concept of knowledge and qualifications in administration. It be hysterical actually if I was not going to suffer along with them. Thing is Dems can't let those who voted for Trump have it with " I told you so " at the risk of being wrong for supporting MAGA, this bunch will just double down and we need these voters to change their minds. Can't be obnoxious to the Trump supporters. Will have to be as gentle to them as possible cause any perception of browbeating them and they will support his Maga successors. It's going to be very hard the next few years and the DNC can't fall into the traps MAGA will set up to make them look like the cause of the calamities to come
Here’s the thing about that. Mr Isolationist Pacifist Trump is going to appoint Captain Neocon Warhawk Marco Rubio to Secretary of War I mean State. So much for “no wars.”
The guy he’s going to make National Security Adviser is also massive Warhawk who was even against ending the Afghanistan War. Ofcourse one only needed an iq above 70 to know the Trump campaign rhetoric about him being the no wars guy was hot air garbage
Philc1 wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Philc1 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Hasn't even been sworn in and I'm already looking at being phucked in more ways than one.
https://gizmodo.com/trumps-proposed-tari...Trump’s Proposed Tariffs Will Hit Gamers Hard
During the campaign, Trump said he’d impose a baseline 60% tariff on Chinese exports. If he does that, the price of all the stuff gamers love is going to go up. Laptop prices could spike by almost 50%. The cost of video game consoles could rise around 40%, making the upcoming PS5 Pro cost almost $1,000. The Switch 2 may be backward compatible, but it may cost quite a bit more than the original.Trump campaigned on punishing China for a perceived trade imbalance with the United States. It was a winning issue for him in his original campaign, and one he acted on, and he spent time on the campaign trail saying he’d do it again. Trump’s broad plan is to encourage a return of U.S. manufacturing through restrictive tariffs. A tariff is a flat tax on a trade good. Trump’s two big proposals are a 10% to 20% import tariff on all goods from other countries and a 60% tariff on goods from China.
The tariffs nonsense is just like his rhetoric about the wall. Ditto for him deporting 20 million illegal immigrants. Neither is happening. It’s all just empty campaign rhetoric to motivate his idiot supporters. The corporate interests that funded Trump’s campaign aren’t going to let him do this.
The most you will see is more kids in cages and family separation stuff which has no legitimate policy objective other than create porn for his racial nationalist base.
So far his selections for key appointments are indicative of Trump trying to do everything he promised his base. It will be a fevered, severe, and incompetent roll out of his policies in the next two years. All of us will suffer in some way. But his base will simply blame the Democrats at first for any failures. It's a cult and until they feel the damage themselves they won't believe. It's a dystopian reality. However, no argument no matter how sound will sway his supporters. It will take at least a few years before any sense will befall the electorate. The right has thoroughly obliterated a concept of knowledge and qualifications in administration. It be hysterical actually if I was not going to suffer along with them. Thing is Dems can't let those who voted for Trump have it with " I told you so " at the risk of being wrong for supporting MAGA, this bunch will just double down and we need these voters to change their minds. Can't be obnoxious to the Trump supporters. Will have to be as gentle to them as possible cause any perception of browbeating them and they will support his Maga successors. It's going to be very hard the next few years and the DNC can't fall into the traps MAGA will set up to make them look like the cause of the calamities to come
Here’s the thing about that. Mr Isolationist Pacifist Trump is going to appoint Captain Neocon Warhawk Marco Rubio to Secretary of War I mean State. So much for “no wars.”
The guy he’s going to make National Security Adviser is also massive Warhawk who was even against ending the Afghanistan War. Ofcourse one only needed an iq above 70 to know the Trump campaign rhetoric about him being the no wars guy was hot air garbage
What we have just undergone is an angry populist take over. Destruction and vengeance is what the mandate was for. War is agreeable. Half of America said the hell with justice, they want to see some other group pay. For now the collective good is over as a prime directive of the three branches of Federal Govt. It is what it is, don't try to understand it in any other way. Big cities blue States are in for it. Neo liberal ideals are over for now. No putting lip stick on a pig. Until the electorate realize wtf has happened it will be too late.MAGA will convince the dim wits it was worth it and the Dems are at fault. Some will be happy to suffer if it means someone else suffers more. A complete race to the bottom
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