Knicks · Knicks traded for Towns (finally official 10/1) (page 11)
nycericanguy@ 9/28/2024 10:48 AM
we've been great at adding good young cheap depth to offset these moves.
Deuce, CAM and Kolek for peanuts are 3 great guys to have now.
martin@ 9/28/2024 10:49 AM
I can’t tell if Marks in in hurricane territory or in jail
jaydh@ 9/28/2024 10:50 AM
nycericanguy wrote:we've been great at adding good young cheap depth to offset these moves.
Deuce, CAM and Kolek for peanuts are 3 great guys to have now.
They made DDV very expendable. This was a smart move, especially if we weren't re-signing Randle.
Philc1@ 9/28/2024 10:50 AM
DLeethal wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Kat shoots 40% from 3. Which is a wild difference to the shooting that we have had from out big men since trading KP.
IHart opened up the offense at the high post with passing and a floater. Kat in this similar role, but a 20pt 40% three pt shooter 80% from FT!!
Defensively he isn't elite, but he holds positive defensive analytics. Last season 109 DTRTG, 3.6 DWS, 0.9 BPM.
Not to mention surrounded by quality defenders: Precious, OG, Bridges, Mcbride, Hart, Mitch.
It is amazing how people are talking about KAT defensively like he’s Eddy Curry.
He’s a very similar makeup to iHart in terms of size, footspeed, hops, instincts etc. I think he will be fine.
If you could dream up a wing lineup with KAT at C how many would be better than Hart/Mikal/OG?
If you want to go small and press KAT is the ideal Center he’s fast, athletic and can finish around the basket with the best of them
jaydh@ 9/28/2024 10:51 AM
Just to add... I'm glad the Nova core doesn't own this team's moves. This will reassure non-Nova Knicks players that the Nova core isn't the only focus.
Rookie@ 9/28/2024 10:52 AM
Philc1 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anybody look in on any Timberwolves message boards? They are absolutely losing their shit. Towns was everyone’s favorite player and not any love for Randle or DDV. They think they got fleeced. Almost all are very colorful in their distaste for the trade
It’s a good trade for both teams. Especially if Randle is recovered from the shoulder injury playing for his next contract. DDV will beast for them and they get a pick
If Minny gets the pick, what did Charlotte get in this deal for eating salary?
jaydh@ 9/28/2024 10:53 AM
Rookie wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anybody look in on any Timberwolves message boards? They are absolutely losing their shit. Towns was everyone’s favorite player and not any love for Randle or DDV. They think they got fleeced. Almost all are very colorful in their distaste for the trade
It’s a good trade for both teams. Especially if Randle is recovered from the shoulder injury playing for his next contract. DDV will beast for them and they get a pick
If Minny gets the pick, what did Charlotte get in this deal for eating salary?
what you mean? they got their guy in DaQuan
martin@ 9/28/2024 10:55 AM
KAT shooting numbers
Randle
tomlin8@ 9/28/2024 11:00 AM
Philc1 wrote:
tomlin8 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:Talent-wise, this is by far the most talented starting 5 for our Knicks since the 70s.
It’s between this team and the ‘92 team with Ewing, Mark Jackson, X-Man, and Oak
Ill take Reed, Monroe, Debusschere, Lucas, Frazier, Bill Bradley, Phil Jackson,Dean Meminger
He said since 70’s
gotcha
Rookie@ 9/28/2024 11:00 AM
martin wrote:I can’t tell if Marks in in hurricane territory or in jail
Ahhhh, there was a Randle 4.1M trade bonus in the deal. Really good breakdown of how this deal works under the new rules
ToddTT@ 9/28/2024 11:08 AM
jaydh wrote:Just to add... I'm glad the Nova core doesn't own this team's moves. This will reassure non-Nova Knicks players that the Nova core isn't the only focus.
+1
martin@ 9/28/2024 11:20 AM
Knicks signed DDV for free last offseason with the MLE.
Detroit pick was acquired by moving down from #11 to #13 (Duren) in 2022 draft (DEN, WAS, DET picks acquired to move back) and then trading the Denver pick and packaging Kemba to Detroit to acquire cap space for Brunson while getting a Bucks top 4 pick they traded away in Mikal deal.
DDV & Detroit pick (from the 2022 #11-13 move down) from above plus Randle for KAT.
Knicks got that lonely WAS pick from 2022 trade left.
That’s the trade tree. That 2022 draft trade WAS WILD AND KEY (or additive) to Brunson, Mikal, KAT
martin@ 9/28/2024 11:25 AM
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NON-GUARANTEED CONTRACTS: Landry Shamet Marcus Morris Chuma Okeke
nycericanguy@ 9/28/2024 11:25 AM
martin wrote:Knicks signed DDV for free last offseason with the MLE.
Detroit pick was acquired by moving down from #11 to #13 (Duren) in 2022 draft (DEN, WAS, DET picks acquired to move back) and then trading the Denver pick and packaging Kemba to Detroit to acquire cap space for Brunson while getting a Bucks top 4 pick they traded away in Mikal deal.
DDV & Detroit pick (from the 2022 #11-13 move down) from above plus Randle for KAT.
Knicks got that lonely WAS pick from 2022 trade left.
That’s the trade tree. That 2022 draft trade WAS WILD AND KEY (or additive) to Brunson, Mikal, KAT
i dont care what anyone says about protections or what not but turning #11 into THREE future firsts AND cap space for Brunson was genius and a franchise altering trade.
martin@ 9/28/2024 11:27 AM
nycericanguy wrote:
martin wrote:Knicks signed DDV for free last offseason with the MLE.
Detroit pick was acquired by moving down from #11 to #13 (Duren) in 2022 draft (DEN, WAS, DET picks acquired to move back) and then trading the Denver pick and packaging Kemba to Detroit to acquire cap space for Brunson while getting a Bucks top 4 pick they traded away in Mikal deal.
DDV & Detroit pick (from the 2022 #11-13 move down) from above plus Randle for KAT.
Knicks got that lonely WAS pick from 2022 trade left.
That’s the trade tree. That 2022 draft trade WAS WILD AND KEY (or additive) to Brunson, Mikal, KAT
i dont care what anyone says about protections or what not but turning #11 into THREE future firsts AND cap space for Brunson was genius and a franchise altering trade.
That’s the whole shebang
martin@ 9/28/2024 11:31 AM
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So who will replace DVo? Mikal is a different type of player and shooter.
Shamet can do a little bit of what DVo does but who knows if he makes the team.
The more I analyze this trade the more I dislike it.
DLeethal@ 9/28/2024 11:46 AM
SergioNYK wrote:So who will replace DVo? Mikal is a different type of player and shooter.
Shamet can do a little bit of what DVo does but who knows if he makes the team.
The more I analyze this trade the more I dislike it.
DVO was barely getting 20 mins off the bench this year. We have a bunch of guards who can fill that role and we get elite volume 3 point shooting from the C spot now. It’s not about replacing a role, this team is drastically different now ala Boston after Porzingis trade.
