Knicks · Around the NBA 2024-25, let's do this!! (page 10)

Rookie @ 11/3/2024 12:03 PM
How much is NY really missing Divo?

Team 3FG%

1 Boston Celtics 44.2
2 Cleveland Cavaliers 43.7
T-3 New York Knicks 40.4
T-3 Phoenix Suns 40.4
5 Orlando Magic 39.4
6 Golden State Warriors 38.3
T-7 Dallas Mavericks 37.6
T-7 Brooklyn Nets 37.6
T-9 Charlotte Hornets 37.4
T-9 Memphis Grizzlies 37.4
11 Miami Heat 36.8
12 Minnesota Timberwolves 36.7
13 Los Angeles Lakers 36.3
14 San Antonio Spurs 35.7
15 Sacramento Kings 35.6
16 Milwaukee Bucks 35.5
17 New Orleans Pelicans 34.7
18 Detroit Pistons 34.6
19 Chicago Bulls 34.3
20 Atlanta Hawks 34.0
21 Houston Rockets 33.9
22 Toronto Raptors 33.7
23 Portland Trail Blazers 33.0
24 Los Angeles Clippers 31.9
25 Denver Nuggets 28.8
26 Utah Jazz 27.9
27 Washington Wizards 27.8
28 Oklahoma City Thunder 27.6
29 Philadelphia 76ers 27.5
30 Indiana Pacers 26.9

Clean @ 11/3/2024 1:04 PM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Embiid got a lot of heat for not always being in top condition and guys like Barkley and Shaq on him for not living up to the talent.
Embiid has admitted as such and did go all in to win MVP and play at that level.
But he keeps breaking.
In typical NBA style he makes statements that he wants to leave a legacy in the name of his brother, who in 2014 died in a car accident and he has named his son after that brother. Its well intended.
Embiid does play thru injuries and plays hurt.
He signed a big extension and comes to camp out of shape? Was this part of a plan to delay his start and subsequent reduce his injury odds?
Vet writer references his lack of condition and throws statements from the past about "Legacy", which was a cheap shot but, to be fair, Embiid puts that stuff out there and it has to hurt when it comes back. Its hard to not be human and react to it.
Why is FO not preparing for this onslaught of criticism? Media sets the tone for fans and they start booing him he might want out.
With that contract? Not going to be easy. Blame? Circumstance. Embiid, Philly FO, and reporter all not handling this well.

NBA players love to say what people want to hear. Dwight Howard wanted to change the world with his play and christian beliefs. Nothing wrong with it until the career starts to go sideways and your making babies out of wedlock with multiple women. Setting himself up for that.
On the other side, Barkley says he is no role model and should not be held to that standard. I respected that in the context it was meant for.

The Writer bringing up Embiids brother and son was not cool, but Embiid put it out there and not owning it.

I think this is the article context, I have not read article itself, so there may be more context.

AM I crazy or that does not seem bad at all. He never said anything bad about his son or brother. He just provided the readers with context. I never knew about his brother and son. I am failing to see what he would get angry about.

Nalod @ 11/3/2024 1:31 PM
Clean, there was a locker room incident where he and the writer confronted.
As I said, this kind of stuff riles up fans and for the player it gets personal.
I understand Embiid is not loved around here and perhaps with max contract players should absorb all kinds of things but the line gets thin at times and they are human.
Clean @ 11/3/2024 1:45 PM
Nalod wrote:Clean, there was a locker room incident where he and the writer confronted.
As I said, this kind of stuff riles up fans and for the player it gets personal.
I understand Embiid is not loved around here and perhaps with max contract players should absorb all kinds of things but the line gets thin at times and they are human.

I understand that part but the whole confrontation happened because of this article. I can't see why Embiid is angry from what I just read. The guy said nothing wrong about his brother or son.

I think Embiid is angry that he is always injured and just needed to lashout at someone. Obviously this is pure speculation but if you watch his interview from a few days ago he seemed angry then to.

martin @ 11/3/2024 2:00 PM
Clean wrote:
Nalod wrote:Clean, there was a locker room incident where he and the writer confronted.
As I said, this kind of stuff riles up fans and for the player it gets personal.
I understand Embiid is not loved around here and perhaps with max contract players should absorb all kinds of things but the line gets thin at times and they are human.

I understand that part but the whole confrontation happened because of this article. I can't see why Embiid is angry from what I just read. The guy said nothing wrong about his brother or son.

I think Embiid is angry that he is always injured and just needed to lashout at someone. Obviously this is pure speculation but if you watch his interview from a few days ago he seemed angry then to.

I have had the same reaction as you have. I don't have a good enough context or background about this writer, so there may be personal history here too that we are unaware of.

Embiid has publicly talked about this personal history and what it means to him. That is my understanding.

martin @ 11/3/2024 3:19 PM
NICE

martin @ 11/3/2024 3:20 PM
Clean @ 11/3/2024 8:10 PM

A nice video about Jokic scouting Minn then countering their play and minn countering the counter.
martin @ 11/3/2024 8:51 PM
Fun

martin @ 11/3/2024 8:59 PM
Let’s recap the other recent unlikely’s: Mikal, OG, KAT

EwingsGlass @ 11/3/2024 9:09 PM
martin wrote:Fun

That one was a missed opportunity by every other GM. Seemed so easy for us knowing we needed a C.

ToddTT @ 11/3/2024 9:22 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:Fun

That one was a missed opportunity by every other GM. Seemed so easy for us knowing we needed a C.

Clean @ 11/3/2024 9:55 PM

Gets a huge contract then falls off a cliff.
martin @ 11/3/2024 11:04 PM
Clean wrote:
Gets a huge contract then falls off a cliff.

Fournier 2.0

Chandler @ 11/4/2024 8:07 AM
martin wrote:
Clean wrote:
Nalod wrote:Clean, there was a locker room incident where he and the writer confronted.
As I said, this kind of stuff riles up fans and for the player it gets personal.
I understand Embiid is not loved around here and perhaps with max contract players should absorb all kinds of things but the line gets thin at times and they are human.

I understand that part but the whole confrontation happened because of this article. I can't see why Embiid is angry from what I just read. The guy said nothing wrong about his brother or son.

I think Embiid is angry that he is always injured and just needed to lashout at someone. Obviously this is pure speculation but if you watch his interview from a few days ago he seemed angry then to.

I have had the same reaction as you have. I don't have a good enough context or background about this writer, so there may be personal history here too that we are unaware of.

Embiid has publicly talked about this personal history and what it means to him. That is my understanding.

I have the opposite reaction. Writer could have made the same exact point saying same exact thing and leaving his little brother out of it.

I read it as him accusing Embiid of not only being out of condition/lazy ( fair game) but dragging his little brother into it as a phony pledge to his deceased brother. IMO no need to go there. That’s the writer being selfish

martin @ 11/4/2024 8:16 AM
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Clean wrote:
Nalod wrote:Clean, there was a locker room incident where he and the writer confronted.
As I said, this kind of stuff riles up fans and for the player it gets personal.
I understand Embiid is not loved around here and perhaps with max contract players should absorb all kinds of things but the line gets thin at times and they are human.

I understand that part but the whole confrontation happened because of this article. I can't see why Embiid is angry from what I just read. The guy said nothing wrong about his brother or son.

I think Embiid is angry that he is always injured and just needed to lashout at someone. Obviously this is pure speculation but if you watch his interview from a few days ago he seemed angry then to.

I have had the same reaction as you have. I don't have a good enough context or background about this writer, so there may be personal history here too that we are unaware of.

Embiid has publicly talked about this personal history and what it means to him. That is my understanding.

I have the opposite reaction. Writer could have made the same exact point saying same exact thing and leaving his little brother out of it.

I read it as him accusing Embiid of not only being out of condition/lazy ( fair game) but dragging his little brother into it as a phony pledge to his deceased brother. IMO no need to go there. That’s the writer being selfish

There is definitely some personal Embiid side to this too, no doubt. I don’t know how much Embiid himself brings up his own story about this brother and son.

Lots and lots of missing context.

Embiid also accidentally falls and injures everyone around him. He is sloppy and doesn’t seem to care who he physically hurts when he falls. Accidentally.

martin @ 11/4/2024 10:56 AM
Ugh

martin @ 11/4/2024 10:59 AM
He is getting the Obi treatment!

Knixkik @ 11/4/2024 11:11 AM
martin wrote:NICE

I’ve been watching him (always been a huge RJ guy) and he’s looked like the wing playmaker I had hoped for in the beginning. He looks great initiating offense and is playing with confidence. He was just never a fit with Randle (ironically now that he’s finally gone), and probably isn’t a great fit with Barnes who has been out. Grady Dick is awesome next to him, and Quickley will be too.

Nalod @ 11/5/2024 9:04 AM
Coach Pop got some health issues and will be out for awhile. not saying what it is. Dude is 75 years old!
Dig the energy and his personal push back on politics especially in Texas!
All time leading coach and stuck around for rebuild which dinging his win %.
Like to see him go out on his terms if he can finish the season.
Hope its nothing too serious!
martin @ 11/5/2024 9:45 AM
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:NICE

I’ve been watching him (always been a huge RJ guy) and he’s looked like the wing playmaker I had hoped for in the beginning. He looks great initiating offense and is playing with confidence. He was just never a fit with Randle (ironically now that he’s finally gone), and probably isn’t a great fit with Barnes who has been out. Grady Dick is awesome next to him, and Quickley will be too.

I've only seen the highlights. How is his defense and does he still barrel into defenses or is that over?

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