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martin @ 3/11/2025 10:16 PM
VDesai wrote:Haliburton game winning 4 pt play holy shit

VDesai @ 3/11/2025 10:44 PM
That gives the Knicks a 5 game lead on the 4 seed with 18 games to go, with tiebreakers against Indy and Milwaukee.

They are pretty locked into the 3 seed it seems.

Philc1 @ 3/11/2025 11:33 PM
VDesai wrote:That gives the Knicks a 5 game lead on the 4 seed with 18 games to go, with tiebreakers against Indy and Milwaukee.

They are pretty locked into the 3 seed it seems.

I just don’t want the pistons round 1.

franco12 @ 3/12/2025 9:38 AM
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Haliburton game winning 4 pt play holy shit

I watched this live - absolutely brilliant play design and unreal how wide open Haliburton got on it. And shocking how little time actually ticked off the clock. Pacers let this one almost slip from them.

franco12 @ 3/12/2025 9:39 AM
Philc1 wrote:
VDesai wrote:That gives the Knicks a 5 game lead on the 4 seed with 18 games to go, with tiebreakers against Indy and Milwaukee.

They are pretty locked into the 3 seed it seems.

I just don’t want the pistons round 1.

Honestly- I’d rather have the Celtics in round 1- pistons are young and athletic- that, along with being over 500, seems to be our weak spot.

martin @ 3/12/2025 9:48 AM
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Haliburton game winning 4 pt play holy shit

I watched this live - absolutely brilliant play design and unreal how wide open Haliburton got on it. And shocking how little time actually ticked off the clock. Pacers let this one almost slip from them.

This is even a better view, amazing to see unfold.

franco12 @ 3/12/2025 6:17 PM
martin wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Haliburton game winning 4 pt play holy shit

I watched this live - absolutely brilliant play design and unreal how wide open Haliburton got on it. And shocking how little time actually ticked off the clock. Pacers let this one almost slip from them.

This is even a better view, amazing to see unfold.

I'm curious if they drew this up on the sideline, or had been working on this - seems like the special set play you want to keep secret until your big moment. Turner was also in a perfect spot for a rebound.

I wish we would have plays like this (Thibs, you listening) because how many times should a five count get called, there is no motion, no movement.

Super creative play call. And I guess someone didn't get the message not to foul the 3pt shooter.

knickslions @ 3/12/2025 8:19 PM
Celtics 9-22 from three in first quarter and had no 2 point fg. New nba
Clean @ 3/12/2025 9:13 PM
knickslions wrote:Celtics 9-22 from three in first quarter and had no 2 point fg. New nba

Glad that all of my NBA info comes from this thread and whatever randomly gets put in my social media timeline. Everytime I see something like this is confirms why I stopped watching.

joec32033 @ 3/13/2025 1:45 AM
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Haliburton game winning 4 pt play holy shit

I watched this live - absolutely brilliant play design and unreal how wide open Haliburton got on it. And shocking how little time actually ticked off the clock. Pacers let this one almost slip from them.

I hate his face.

Clean @ 3/14/2025 2:04 AM

Wait until Mitch finds someone who can throw a lob.
martin @ 3/14/2025 10:23 AM
Clean wrote:
Wait until Mitch finds someone who can throw a lob.

Exactly.

More Kolek please!

Philc1 @ 3/14/2025 11:56 AM
Rookie wrote:
martin wrote:Just wow

I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.

This.

Philc1 @ 3/14/2025 11:57 AM
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
VDesai wrote:That gives the Knicks a 5 game lead on the 4 seed with 18 games to go, with tiebreakers against Indy and Milwaukee.

They are pretty locked into the 3 seed it seems.

I just don’t want the pistons round 1.

Honestly- I’d rather have the Celtics in round 1- pistons are young and athletic- that, along with being over 500, seems to be our weak spot.

Pistons and Cunningham are really emerging

BigDaddyG @ 3/14/2025 12:09 PM
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
VDesai wrote:That gives the Knicks a 5 game lead on the 4 seed with 18 games to go, with tiebreakers against Indy and Milwaukee.

They are pretty locked into the 3 seed it seems.

I just don’t want the pistons round 1.

Honestly- I’d rather have the Celtics in round 1- pistons are young and athletic- that, along with being over 500, seems to be our weak spot.

Pistons and Cunningham are really emerging

One point about the Pistons I heard on the Dunc'd on Podcast is that the Pistons being an extremely Cade centric offense might hurt them in the playoffs when the intensity ramps up. This will be Cade's first playoffs and Thibs will ramp up the defense on him. No one else on the offense is consistent enough to be counted on and it will be a rough learning curve

martin @ 3/14/2025 12:28 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
VDesai wrote:That gives the Knicks a 5 game lead on the 4 seed with 18 games to go, with tiebreakers against Indy and Milwaukee.

They are pretty locked into the 3 seed it seems.

I just don’t want the pistons round 1.

Honestly- I’d rather have the Celtics in round 1- pistons are young and athletic- that, along with being over 500, seems to be our weak spot.

Pistons and Cunningham are really emerging

One point about the Pistons I heard on the Dunc'd on Podcast is that the Pistons being an extremely Cade centric offense might hurt them in the playoffs when the intensity ramps up. This will be Cade's first playoffs and Thibs will ramp up the defense on him. No one else on the offense is consistent enough to be counted on and it will be a rough learning curve

It's called the Brunson Defense.

VDesai @ 3/14/2025 12:58 PM
Pistons did lose to the Wizards last night. I agree with Martin that the Pistons are in a bit of a Knicks situation - key on on the head of the snake. It happened to us in 2020 when everything was Randle centric. It happened to us last year when it was Brunson-centric - however having Hartenstein to pair with him helped us, and Brunson was smarter and more seasoned.

Pistons will go through a learning curve with Cade. Maybe he's already up for the challenge? He's a great player. The rest of the roster is overachieving because of his greatness. Can they keep it going in a playoff format? 2020 Knicks learned otherwise and these Pistons might too. But they have a lot of hope for the future. What Cade needed was a long run of consistent help. He had the tools and he's fulfilling his promise. He will be a top 10 NBA player.

martin @ 3/14/2025 1:11 PM
VDesai wrote:Pistons did lose to the Wizards last night. I agree with Martin that the Pistons are in a bit of a Knicks situation - key on on the head of the snake. It happened to us in 2020 when everything was Randle centric. It happened to us last year when it was Brunson-centric - however having Hartenstein to pair with him helped us, and Brunson was smarter and more seasoned.

Pistons will go through a learning curve with Cade. Maybe he's already up for the challenge? He's a great player. The rest of the roster is overachieving because of his greatness. Can they keep it going in a playoff format? 2020 Knicks learned otherwise and these Pistons might too. But they have a lot of hope for the future. What Cade needed was a long run of consistent help. He had the tools and he's fulfilling his promise. He will be a top 10 NBA player.

I think the underlying reason that the Knicks moved DDV/Randle for KAT was that KAT can be a focal point of offense in a way Randle may not have been as consistent or threatening for defenses, give or take. These would obviously be other reasons too.

Knicks still need a secondary ball handler IMO.

Philc1 @ 3/14/2025 3:32 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
VDesai wrote:That gives the Knicks a 5 game lead on the 4 seed with 18 games to go, with tiebreakers against Indy and Milwaukee.

They are pretty locked into the 3 seed it seems.

I just don’t want the pistons round 1.

Honestly- I’d rather have the Celtics in round 1- pistons are young and athletic- that, along with being over 500, seems to be our weak spot.

Pistons and Cunningham are really emerging

One point about the Pistons I heard on the Dunc'd on Podcast is that the Pistons being an extremely Cade centric offense might hurt them in the playoffs when the intensity ramps up. This will be Cade's first playoffs and Thibs will ramp up the defense on him. No one else on the offense is consistent enough to be counted on and it will be a rough learning curve

That may be true but I’d still rather face the pacers or bucks. I don’t like our matchup with Detroit Cade will light us up.

jskinny35 @ 3/14/2025 5:02 PM
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Pistons did lose to the Wizards last night. I agree with Martin that the Pistons are in a bit of a Knicks situation - key on on the head of the snake. It happened to us in 2020 when everything was Randle centric. It happened to us last year when it was Brunson-centric - however having Hartenstein to pair with him helped us, and Brunson was smarter and more seasoned.

Pistons will go through a learning curve with Cade. Maybe he's already up for the challenge? He's a great player. The rest of the roster is overachieving because of his greatness. Can they keep it going in a playoff format? 2020 Knicks learned otherwise and these Pistons might too. But they have a lot of hope for the future. What Cade needed was a long run of consistent help. He had the tools and he's fulfilling his promise. He will be a top 10 NBA player.

I think the underlying reason that the Knicks moved DDV/Randle for KAT was that KAT can be a focal point of offense in a way Randle may not have been as consistent or threatening for defenses, give or take. These would obviously be other reasons too.

Knicks still need a secondary ball handler IMO.

Agree...also think a big point is KAT either shoots from deep or drive - he doesn't hold the ball and makes quicker decisions vs Randle

martin @ 3/14/2025 5:15 PM
jskinny35 wrote:
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Pistons did lose to the Wizards last night. I agree with Martin that the Pistons are in a bit of a Knicks situation - key on on the head of the snake. It happened to us in 2020 when everything was Randle centric. It happened to us last year when it was Brunson-centric - however having Hartenstein to pair with him helped us, and Brunson was smarter and more seasoned.

Pistons will go through a learning curve with Cade. Maybe he's already up for the challenge? He's a great player. The rest of the roster is overachieving because of his greatness. Can they keep it going in a playoff format? 2020 Knicks learned otherwise and these Pistons might too. But they have a lot of hope for the future. What Cade needed was a long run of consistent help. He had the tools and he's fulfilling his promise. He will be a top 10 NBA player.

I think the underlying reason that the Knicks moved DDV/Randle for KAT was that KAT can be a focal point of offense in a way Randle may not have been as consistent or threatening for defenses, give or take. These would obviously be other reasons too.

Knicks still need a secondary ball handler IMO.

Agree...also think a big point is KAT either shoots from deep or drive - he doesn't hold the ball and makes quicker decisions vs Randle

Yep, elite spacer. But poor defender.

I think they knew about the defense of KAT and why we saw them furiously hunt for C's to trade for knowing Mitch would be out and that's all they had.

5-out with rim defense was probably never a real option.

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