martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
Still have to put the work in, have genetics, and admit that others also.
Perhaps Kobe and Jordans personalities worst sides were enhanced by "road rage"?
But we do live in a world were those who defy logic or we simply don't understand must have a conspiracy attached to it. Thus, he must cheat to achieve all this. No whispers? No sense that basketball players gain little advantage? Not like Baseball or Football did back in the day? Just Lebron?
Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
Still have to put the work in, have genetics, and admit that others also.
Perhaps Kobe and Jordans personalities worst sides were enhanced by "road rage"?
But we do live in a world were those who defy logic or we simply don't understand must have a conspiracy attached to it. Thus, he must cheat to achieve all this. No whispers? No sense that basketball players gain little advantage? Not like Baseball or Football did back in the day? Just Lebron?
If it walks and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. There's plenty of anecdotal (some not so andectol) evidence and he exhibits some clear physical cues suggesting PED use. Does it take away from all he's accomplished? He still needs to be disciplined to perform at that level. I don't hold it against him as much because I believe there are a number of players on PEDs. I think they should be legal, honestly. But I'm not going to sit here and buy into the media driven fairy-tale that's being pushed forward.
BigDaddyG wrote:Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
Still have to put the work in, have genetics, and admit that others also.
Perhaps Kobe and Jordans personalities worst sides were enhanced by "road rage"?
But we do live in a world were those who defy logic or we simply don't understand must have a conspiracy attached to it. Thus, he must cheat to achieve all this. No whispers? No sense that basketball players gain little advantage? Not like Baseball or Football did back in the day? Just Lebron?
If it walks and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. There's plenty of anecdotal (some not so andectol) evidence and he exhibits some clear physical cues suggesting PED use. Does it take away from all he's accomplished? He still needs to be disciplined to perform at that level. I don't hold it against him as much because I believe there are a number of players on PEDs. I think they should be legal, honestly. But I'm not going to sit here and buy into the media driven fairy-tale that's being pushed forward.
Not me either, but Im not so jaded I won't respect the history of the game and shit on it when there is a much longer narrative. But what is this evidence? His head is bigger? So are lots of players.
Also is the legal limit for HGH for athletes when testing? Does he and others stay right up to the line?
I suppose Tom Brady and Nolan Ryan were also juiced?
Barry Bonds is a bit of a different story given his production went thru the roof in his late 30's. Granted, PED's don't help you hit the ball, but the recuperative powers to regenerate and create power does enhance the effort and ability to to hire. Baseball was a joke in that era, but they allowed it.
Has any pro basketball player been ever been tested for PED? besides the occasional "banned substance"?
We just assume Lebron and others are going to some high end alien Area 51 lab and getting infused?
Kobes trips to Germany for blood enrichment therapy for his knees was well known.
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
The most suspicious I been was after he was looking old he took a random week off then came back loooking like a much younger lebron from that point forward.
This new NBA is not for me. I don't think I watched a single non Knick game this season and I don't miss it.
Clean wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
The most suspicious I been was after he was looking old he took a random week off then came back loooking like a much younger lebron from that point forward.
Maybe. Can't rule anything out. There are other explanations too right? Maybe a marital spat? Issue with one of the kids not named Bronny? You know life things on his mind? Or went to some Eastern European blood doping clinic and got fixed? Its what we do. Connect the dots without benefit of the doubt.
How else does one explain what cannot be explained? He must be "cheating"?
Dude was a freak at 18, and a still a freak of nature.
My guess is he retires this year. Just a guess. Its why the Davis era ended and they got a new star to market. he got to play with is son, goes out in top form. If he won't chase a title on another team, then he does it for love or money.
Nalod wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
Still have to put the work in, have genetics, and admit that others also.
Perhaps Kobe and Jordans personalities worst sides were enhanced by "road rage"?
But we do live in a world were those who defy logic or we simply don't understand must have a conspiracy attached to it. Thus, he must cheat to achieve all this. No whispers? No sense that basketball players gain little advantage? Not like Baseball or Football did back in the day? Just Lebron?
If it walks and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. There's plenty of anecdotal (some not so andectol) evidence and he exhibits some clear physical cues suggesting PED use. Does it take away from all he's accomplished? He still needs to be disciplined to perform at that level. I don't hold it against him as much because I believe there are a number of players on PEDs. I think they should be legal, honestly. But I'm not going to sit here and buy into the media driven fairy-tale that's being pushed forward.
Not me either, but Im not so jaded I won't respect the history of the game and shit on it when there is a much longer narrative. But what is this evidence? His head is bigger? So are lots of players.
Also is the legal limit for HGH for athletes when testing? Does he and others stay right up to the line?
I suppose Tom Brady and Nolan Ryan were also juiced?
Barry Bonds is a bit of a different story given his production went thru the roof in his late 30's. Granted, PED's don't help you hit the ball, but the recuperative powers to regenerate and create power does enhance the effort and ability to to hire. Baseball was a joke in that era, but they allowed it.
Has any pro basketball player been ever been tested for PED? besides the occasional "banned substance"?
We just assume Lebron and others are going to some high end alien Area 51 lab and getting infused?
Kobes trips to Germany for blood enrichment therapy for his knees was well known.
I would say there's a chance those players are using PEDs too. It's not normal. Look around you. Do the people you know get more pronounced cheekbones and larger jawlines as they get older? There are a number of players who have been caught with banned substances over the years. I remember John Collins was caught a few years ago for using a peptide that increases natural HGH production. And there's DeAndre Ayton was caught using diaretics for the "likely" purpose of trying to mask his whatever he was using. Also, there are a number of substances that aren't being tested for by the NBA that would be more useful to an NBA player than a lot of the things that are on the banned list. Also, HGH is one of the harder hormones to test for.
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
Ain’t no party like a Brady/Lebron PED party.
Clean wrote:
This new NBA is not for me. I don't think I watched a single non Knick game this season and I don't miss it.
Agree 100%. Kevin Durant can pitch someone during a game out in the open not even get a foul call. The NBA is not a good product right now in the 90’s I could enjoy watching a freaking Vancouver Grizzlies game now it’s just a hot unwatchable mess unless my Knicks are on tv.
BigDaddyG wrote:Nalod wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
Still have to put the work in, have genetics, and admit that others also.
Perhaps Kobe and Jordans personalities worst sides were enhanced by "road rage"?
But we do live in a world were those who defy logic or we simply don't understand must have a conspiracy attached to it. Thus, he must cheat to achieve all this. No whispers? No sense that basketball players gain little advantage? Not like Baseball or Football did back in the day? Just Lebron?
If it walks and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. There's plenty of anecdotal (some not so andectol) evidence and he exhibits some clear physical cues suggesting PED use. Does it take away from all he's accomplished? He still needs to be disciplined to perform at that level. I don't hold it against him as much because I believe there are a number of players on PEDs. I think they should be legal, honestly. But I'm not going to sit here and buy into the media driven fairy-tale that's being pushed forward.
Not me either, but Im not so jaded I won't respect the history of the game and shit on it when there is a much longer narrative. But what is this evidence? His head is bigger? So are lots of players.
Also is the legal limit for HGH for athletes when testing? Does he and others stay right up to the line?
I suppose Tom Brady and Nolan Ryan were also juiced?
Barry Bonds is a bit of a different story given his production went thru the roof in his late 30's. Granted, PED's don't help you hit the ball, but the recuperative powers to regenerate and create power does enhance the effort and ability to to hire. Baseball was a joke in that era, but they allowed it.
Has any pro basketball player been ever been tested for PED? besides the occasional "banned substance"?
We just assume Lebron and others are going to some high end alien Area 51 lab and getting infused?
Kobes trips to Germany for blood enrichment therapy for his knees was well known.
I would say there's a chance those players are using PEDs too. It's not normal. Look around you. Do the people you know get more pronounced cheekbones and larger jawlines as they get older? There are a number of players who have been caught with banned substances over the years. I remember John Collins was caught a few years ago for using a peptide that increases natural HGH production. And there's DeAndre Ayton was caught using diaretics for the "likely" purpose of trying to mask his whatever he was using. Also, there are a number of substances that aren't being tested for by the NBA that would be more useful to an NBA player than a lot of the things that are on the banned list. Also, HGH is one of the harder hormones to test for.
Im not an expert and appreciate your inclusions about physical attributes. As for cheek Boones and jaw lines defining his face I'd suggest he keeps a very low fat to body ration and perhaps he has mastered near perfection regarding lean mass and maintain crazy output.
No doubt he is doing something but is it legal or not? With unlimited funds he can afford to seek out the best of the best but at what point is he breaking or not breaking the prescribed levels and how? I don't know much about PED's these days outside of Lebron haters accusing him as if he was the one and only.
Maybe guilty, maybe not.
Maybe in 20 years or so when his eyes turn yellow like Jordans we'll see liver issues?
Clean wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Just wow
I have zero doubt LeBron has mastered gaming the system with PED’s.
The most suspicious I been was after he was looking old he took a random week off then came back loooking like a much younger lebron from that point forward.
Yeah this always catches my attention. Now it looks like LeBron will miss 1-2 weeks with a (cough) groin right before the playoffs.
Miami just lost at home to Charlotte with their full squad? They are hurting.
They tanking? What is going? Spo is a very very good coach.
Well Scary Terry has been throwing games right>?
VDesai wrote:Well Scary Terry has been throwing games right>?
Miami fans are doing the Fire Thibs thing with Spo
martin wrote:VDesai wrote:Well Scary Terry has been throwing games right>?
Miami fans are doing the Fire Thibs thing with Spo
Spo is the one guy I wouldn't mind at all taking over for Thibs. He's the best coach in the league! Miami fans are so dumb!
Haliburton game winning 4 pt play holy shit
