Knicks · Around the NBA 2024-25, let's do this!! (page 57)

ToddTT @ 3/17/2025 11:06 PM
martin @ 3/17/2025 11:19 PM
All the ex Knicks bros going off tonight

Clean @ 3/18/2025 7:08 AM
martin wrote:All the ex Knicks bros going off tonight

Amazing what happens when the coach keeps Obi in during a game when he is clearly hot.

MS @ 3/18/2025 7:54 AM
Grimes over the past 9 games
28.6pts 5.6rbs 4.5as 2.1stls on 40% from 3

Dallas just gave him away, too which is crazy.

Would like to see Bridged be more selfish out there, he’s not aggressive enough.

martin @ 3/18/2025 12:36 PM
This team is jinxed

EwingsGlass @ 3/18/2025 8:06 PM
MS wrote:Grimes over the past 9 games
28.6pts 5.6rbs 4.5as 2.1stls on 40% from 3

Dallas just gave him away, too which is crazy.

Would like to see Bridged be more selfish out there, he’s not aggressive enough.

Knicks also gave him away.

Alpha1971 @ 3/19/2025 2:11 AM
Can the Knicks get Dante back or Grimes next off season ?
Nalod @ 3/19/2025 10:00 AM

Good teams leave good players behind moving forward. Sometimes timing plays a role, player development, opportunities, injuries, and plain dumb luck.

We been on the receiving end for the last 5 years. We got here by Randle and Brunson free agency signing and both were exceptional All NBA values. Miss on OBI, but nailed it with Deuce. Missed on Knox, did good with Mitch.
Maybe Shamet is the next guy to step up in the rotation. Maybe its next year one of our new signees (Beauchamp/Watson) step up.

Philc1 @ 3/19/2025 10:46 AM
Clean wrote:
Had no idea Penny was this athletic. I was so young back in these days so was not paying attention to the NCAA. Now I see why Shaq told his FO to make sure they draft him.

Penny up until 1997 was a superstar all-world. There were people arguing he was better than Jordan. And then the bulls-magic 1996 playoff series happened, Shaq left and Penny became basketball Judd Nelson

ToddTT @ 3/19/2025 7:04 PM
Damn. Hope he recovers. You know... after the playoffs.

ToddTT @ 3/19/2025 9:07 PM
Clean @ 3/19/2025 10:47 PM

The easy to predict disaster of a trade for the Mavs. Why can't we ever get gifts like this. Rose should have been close to Nico instead of Thibs.
Nalod @ 3/20/2025 9:27 AM
Clean wrote:
The easy to predict disaster of a trade for the Mavs. Why can't we ever get gifts like this. Rose should have been close to Nico instead of Thibs.


Do you have a trade in mind that matches the money? and does not neuter the knicks?
What the roster might look like after?
Randle "Home" in Dallas at PF with assets could have worked. Granted, Jules is not at AD level and not far in age/injury issues but we might not have been able to swing Mikal and we then have no KAT with just Mitch at center. Thats hindsight as Luka was not on the table then. But hypothetically how would a Luka trade look?
What spooked Dallas into making the trade?

Nalod @ 3/20/2025 6:27 PM
Celtic sold for a valuation of 6.1BILLION. Thats more than the Washington Commanders just sold for. Last NBA team sold was PHX for about 4billion. Dallas went for just below that but thought is Cuban has a stake still and the potential to participate in the real estate development and casino.

We keep waiting for the bottom to fall out but it keeps going up. The Boston Deal I believe does NOT include the Arena.
What is a bit nutty is the cable revenue is not great anymore and regional networks are declining. Boston owns the New England Market. National TV deals no doubt keep increasing.

But what about those declining TV ratings? Our very own PhilC harps on that often. I suspect revenue from that TV deal, attendance, and streaming must be very healthy. TV ratings don't tell the full story. That or these very wealthy people need to listen to PhilC?

If NBA adds two more teams one could figure the pay in price is 6bil per. The new teams would share in the TV money. Old teams get $400mil each for the buy in. For some that exceeds what they paid for the team. Buss Family whose prime asset is the lakers paid 24mil for the Lakers and Kings in 1979. Also in the purchase was the Forum arena and ranch in Nevada valued at 47mil. I don't think they have any ownership in the current Crypto (staples) Arena that will soon be 30 years old. I could not see how much Buss sold the Forum for. Eventually MSG corp (Dolan) did own it until recently.

There is a big push for NBA to partner or expand into Europe in some fashion. Mexico City with 20 mil just in the city would also be quite attractive as well.

Love the current game or not, this entertainment business is still thriving.

GustavBahler @ 3/21/2025 3:11 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6216128...

Quentin Grimes, superstar

One of the most bizarre situations in the league is happening in Philadelphia right now, where the Sixers are simultaneously navigating a tank job to possibly keep a top-six protected pick and a contract push from Grimes as he hits restricted free agency. A low-usage role player in his first three seasons, Grimes had stepped things up a bit in 47 games in Dallas this season, but he didn’t really blow up until he got to Philly at the trade deadline.

On a denuded Sixers roster with three injured All-Stars, Grimes has averaged 21.8 points while making shots from everywhere — he’s shooting 39.5 percent on 3s and 60.1 percent on 2s, the latter a fairly incredible figure for a 6-foot-5 guard with middling athleticism.

At some point, you figure he’ll cool off a bit, but even after regressing his shooting to the mean, the stat line is impressive. (He’s also increased his rates of rebounds, blocks, steals and assists. Dude is balling.)

What does that mean for Grimes this summer? Being a restricted free agent might limit the market, but given the Sixers’ position vis-a-vis the luxury tax and aprons, teams might also be tempted to test the Sixers’ willingness to spend by dropping a big offer sheet. It could actually tempt a rival team to spend more, in the hopes of creating such a poisonous sheet that the Sixers run away shrieking. Right now, Brooklyn is the only team in a strong position to do this, but things can change before July 1; Grimes will only be 25 this summer, so as with Jerome above, a team would be buying his theoretical prime.

That takes us to the other aspect of Grimes’ situation. Paying him something on the order of $20 million a year would take the Sixers right to the second-apron line, assuming their three players with options choose to pick them up. (Kelly Oubre, Andre Drummond and Eric Gordon have player options worth a total of $17 million; none set hearts aflame with their play in 2024-25.)

That is, unless the Sixers keep their pick, which would add several million to their cap number (the fourth pick will make $8.4 million, for instance) and tighten the screws in other places. In particular, it would seemingly be very difficult to keep both Grimes and Yabusele at their market rates with a top-six pick in the draft.

This takes us back to the tank. The Sixers are in quite a “race” with Toronto and Brooklyn for the fifth- through seventh-worst records in the league, with the three teams resorting to increasingly impressive hijinks to, um, keep up … except that Philly keeps playing Grimes. The Sixers have gone 4-17 since Feb. 4, but Grimes singlehandedly delivered one of the wins (a 44-point masterpiece against the Golden State Warriors) and nearly pulled out another when he hung 46 on the Houston Rockets in an overtime loss.

The difference between fifth and seventh might not seem like much, but it literally doubles the Sixers’ odds of keeping the pick (from 31.9 percent to 63.9 percent). If Grimes leads them to enough wins that the Sixers don’t keep the pick, there’s more money left to pay him!

Nalod @ 3/21/2025 3:59 PM
Thats awesome!!!!
ToddTT @ 3/21/2025 9:12 PM

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martin @ 3/22/2025 2:06 PM
Philc1 @ 3/23/2025 11:09 AM
Clean wrote:
The easy to predict disaster of a trade for the Mavs. Why can't we ever get gifts like this. Rose should have been close to Nico instead of Thibs.

Silver wanted Luka in LA. Don’t be surprised if the mavericks coincidentally get Flagg

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