Got to keep the foot on the pedal
Precious listed as questionable. While I doubt he plays tonight, thats a sure sign he's close. I cant believe he wound up missing a quarter of the season so far.
VDesai wrote:Precious listed as questionable. While I doubt he plays tonight, thats a sure sign he's close. I cant believe he wound up missing a quarter of the season so far.
Is it because of social media and the like that it seems to be more players getting injured? Maybe the style of play these days?
I don't get it.
martin wrote:VDesai wrote:Precious listed as questionable. While I doubt he plays tonight, thats a sure sign he's close. I cant believe he wound up missing a quarter of the season so far.
Is it because of social media and the like that it seems to be more players getting injured? Maybe the style of play these days?
I don't get it.
Hamstring is a common injury- tight muscles, not enough stretching/hydration. Usually they are about a 3 week thing. I think Precious watched OG try to come back too early last year and took his time this year. Its a big year for him playing on a 1 year deal. Maybe just being cautious that he doesn't reinjure and that he looks 100% all year.
Hornets, Pistons, Raptors, Hawks, Raptors is our next 5 games (before a big matchup vs the Wolves). We have officially entered the softer part of the schedule after a very brutal opening 20. This is the time to stack wins. Not saying we have to win all 5, but we can and should, and that would get us to 18-8 - 10 games over. Pretty big deal after a choppy start.
Anyone have access to this? I do not.
martin wrote:Got to keep the foot on the pedal
Please put the foot on throat and put these bee's out of their misery early.
Just saw a stat stating that Knicks have been up +20 points in games +20% of the time (the highest in the league). The next highest team in terms of % being up +20 is the Grizzlies at 13% of the time. Last year Knicks were only up +20 -- 8% of the time.
martin wrote:VDesai wrote:Precious listed as questionable. While I doubt he plays tonight, thats a sure sign he's close. I cant believe he wound up missing a quarter of the season so far.
Is it because of social media and the like that it seems to be more players getting injured? Maybe the style of play these days?
I don't get it.
It's crazy - I think it's mostly mindset these days where
1) it's acceptable to miss time
2) teams have teams of trainers responsible for keeping guys healthy and are overly cautious returning them to court
3) Lots of tanking for what appears to be very good Top 5 draft this year and teams knowing they can't compete with upper teams
4) Everyone is extremely high strung in terms of being in top condition and maybe the higher strung the easier to get soft tissue injuries
Lastly - I have no idea.
Just give me Precious return tonight (for a few minutes) while we await the arrival of Herb Jones (per Martin's ongoing dream).
LivingLegend wrote:martin wrote:VDesai wrote:Precious listed as questionable. While I doubt he plays tonight, thats a sure sign he's close. I cant believe he wound up missing a quarter of the season so far.
Is it because of social media and the like that it seems to be more players getting injured? Maybe the style of play these days?
I don't get it.
It's crazy - I think it's mostly mindset these days where
1) it's acceptable to miss time
2) teams have teams of trainers responsible for keeping guys healthy and are overly cautious returning them to court
3) Lots of tanking for what appears to be very good Top 5 draft this year and teams knowing they can't compete with upper teams
4) Everyone is extremely high strung in terms of being in top condition and maybe the higher strung the easier to get soft tissue injuries
Lastly - I have no idea.
Its a faster game with more possessions yet guys play harder than ever. NBA players surely put their bodies on the line. So many games come down to possessions and how hard you play impacts winning.
I do think there is some overreaction like these guys are glass and gonna break if you play them 40 minutes vs. 36 minutes.
LivingLegend wrote:Just give me Precious return tonight (for a few minutes) while we await the arrival of Herb Jones (per Martin's ongoing dream).
Hey, I had dreams of Mikal and OG too! It was awkward though, I usually am for a bit more curvy and less beefy.
Anyone using the Gotham app?
"Stars" play longer?
Back in the day when sneakers sucked, and ACL/rotator cuff/achilles tear was a pro athlete death sentence, players came in the league mostly at 22 and then started to put on minutes. College and all seasons were shorter. Some played different sports. Clyde was a top notch QB in high school! Etc.
True, todays athletes specialize younger, play crazy amounts of hoop at an early age, etc.
But medicine is so much better now.
True stars are playing longer. Lebron and Durant are at crazy levels of play. Durant is less durable these days but when he plays he is tippy top.
Back in the day a bad injury wiped to or lessoned careers. Clyde last Allstar game was at age 30. Within two years he fell off quickly after.
but in his prime he avi'd 40 min a game.
Reed? 7years all star/MVP. BY age 29 he was cooked. By 31, retired.
Cazzie Russell. Strange career up and down. one all star game. Complicated person. Was perhaps the most talented player on the team. Injuries, contracts, felt oppressed by social order of the day. Im not here to speak for him, just what I have read. Dude was up and down a few times statistically and did not fit in the unselfish game the knicks played. We traded him for Jerry Lucas and won another chip. But injuries really curtailed his productions. Had a really nice year for lakers at age 32 then was cooked.
Embiid is cobbled together and perhaps given massive contract due to modern medicine able to keep him going to some extent.
Add Kawahi, KP and you have three "Stars" who have sat a lot. Chet Hologram? Another talented unicorn with issues his first few years. Jah Mordant? Ben Simmons? Add mental health to games missed? these two not the only ones.
Zion? Back in the day he perhaps never makes it out of college due to injuries.
LaMelo Ball? Very curious case and has really one full season under his belt. Just 202 games played now in his 5th season.
He played just 12 games in Australia as 18 year old and had an injury.
That he rose to be rookie of the year and as good a player is exceptional. Kid is talented. While not a freak like Zion or Holmgren, he is a skinny kid whose durability is questioned for good reasons. If he played a few years in college might have this been vetted? Maybe.
My point? Great players were cooked younger back in the day. Now we pay them on potential and hold them together.
yes, there is more injuries now.
I know it took everything we had to beat these guys a few days ago but I don't expect this to be close. Thibs and Brunson have this team focused and ready!
SergioNYK wrote:I know it took everything we had to beat these guys a few days ago but I don't expect this to be close. Thibs and Brunson have this team focused and ready!
Old guy and the Fat Head Mamba Mentality!
VDesai wrote:martin wrote:VDesai wrote:Precious listed as questionable. While I doubt he plays tonight, thats a sure sign he's close. I cant believe he wound up missing a quarter of the season so far.
Is it because of social media and the like that it seems to be more players getting injured? Maybe the style of play these days?
I don't get it.
Hamstring is a common injury- tight muscles, not enough stretching/hydration. Usually they are about a 3 week thing. I think Precious watched OG try to come back too early last year and took his time this year. Its a big year for him playing on a 1 year deal. Maybe just being cautious that he doesn't reinjure and that he looks 100% all year.
Preseason is shorter. I think players wanted to put less stress on their bodies, but screwed up their ramp up process going into the season. If I had to guess, practice times are also shorter for a lot of teams. Also, I think guys have realized that they need to take time for injuries. I think back to Grant Hill ruining his body in Detroit. Loyalty is nice, but you have to realize that teams have no problem jettisoning you when you're done.
VDesai wrote:Hornets, Pistons, Raptors, Hawks, Raptors is our next 5 games (before a big matchup vs the Wolves). We have officially entered the softer part of the schedule after a very brutal opening 20. This is the time to stack wins. Not saying we have to win all 5, but we can and should, and that would get us to 18-8 - 10 games over. Pretty big deal after a choppy start.
Hornets: We should be able to handle the Hornets, particularly since we have a scouting report on their Ball-less team. Win.
Pistons: have a wildcard in Cade... and have a few shooters in THJr Beasley that can make things difficult if they both happen to be hot. Win.
Hawks: quietly challenging team. Totally under the radar, but had an epic find in Jalen Johnson in the draft a few years ago who has had even better than best-case scenario growth and development, plus replaced the Dejounte Murray experiment with an even better and significantly cheaper replacement in Dyson Daniels. He's sort of like part of this new breed of hyper aggressive, high motor defensive wing like Eason or Thompson in Houston. We sort of see these baby OG's popping up around the league. Plus their rookie kicked our butts in the first match up. I think we win this one - our wings are finding themselves and know that we're much more dangerous if they're working hard to get themselves open rather than just parking at the 3pt line. Win.
Raptors: Under the radar dangerous. RJ is balling this year - I'm seriously happy for him. Much has been said about their poor record, but RJ missed the start of the season, and Barnes/Quickley have missed games too. Poetl is balling like crazy too and might be a top-3 center in the east. I can easily see this team getting around .500 and contending for a playoff spot. We should be able to handle them - they don't have enough reliable shooters on their roster and Quickley is still out. Win.
Wolves: I think the chemistry bit with Randle has been a bit exaggerated. I think their biggest issue is that they badly need legit PG depth. Conley is 37 and only 6'. He's missed a bunch of games already and that is throwing off the whole team. The Wolves saw the development of Edwards as a passable distributor and ball handler as a reason to pick up DiVo instead of go after a legit PG. DiVincenzo can play PG for stretches (I'd say he has good combo guard skills). He'll run plays, but he's not going to create easy baskets for others often. And of course his shooting this season continues to be terrible. No one can say if he's injured or if he's having a tough time playing with Gobert. He's finishing a poor 40.6% at the basket this season - league average is 59.2%! Last year he shot 53.5%. Maybe Gobert is hanging around the basket too much and brings his defender over with him. In any case, sure, this is a potentially tough team, but at the moment, especially with Conley & DiVo playing meh basketball, this should also be a Win.
martin wrote:Anyone using the Gotham app?
I'm reading on Reddit that it's worse than the MSG app.
