Josh Hart has a career-best effective field goal percentage of 61%, up from 49.3% last season. That’s the biggest jump by a wide margin among 85 players with at least 500 field goal attempts in each of the last two seasons.
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Josh Hart has been as big a factor as anyone behind the Knicks’ success.He ranks third in the league in assist ratio among players on the floor for at least 30 minutes per game. Hart is behind Trae Young and Tyrese Haliburton on that list. He is 12th in total rebounds. At 6-4, Hart is at least five inches shorter than the 11 players ahead of him on the list. His rebounds can turn into transition opportunities for the Knicks. New York is averaging 1.21 points per play when Hart has the ball in transition. They are scoring points 60 percent of the time he has the ball in transition.
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NBA MIP Odds for 2024-25 SeasonOdds via DraftKings Sportsbook.
Cade Cunningham: -105
Norman Powell: +105
Tyler Herro: +1600
Christian Braun: +5000
Amen Thompson: +5000
Evan Mobley: +6000
Dyson Daniels: +7000
Jalen Williams: +8000
Victor Wembanyama: +10000
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How is he not even in the discussion?
Points per game?
is it one season over the other or do they look at career? He did have a season like this a few years ago before he go there. 14 or so pts per game.
Draft Kings vs. Who gives the award out? What don't we know?
Its gonna be Cade's award, but Josh should be recognized for something...
I know Josh Hart has proven to have a sixth gear in his transmission this year, but come on. He was on Team USA. He hasn't snuck up anyone
I am not sure I'd give it to Cade either. Wasn't the expectation that he'd be good, considering his draft position?
Norman Powell, to me, is the exact type of guy that should win MIP. Drafted in the middle of the second round. Dropped 41 last week. Was anyone expecting that when they drafted him?
MIP is about the biggest jump not expectations in my opinion.
When Randle won it after his first year here the only real huge jump was 3pt shooting %. From .277 to .411%
He was a 1st round pick at number 7 after a one and done year at Kentucky.
What was it that got him the award? Basically he carried a team that accomplished a nice jump and became an Allstar/All NBA.
Powell has that blue collar thing so its appealing were cade was a blue chip top pick.
Josh Hart assists are up nice as are his reobunding. Maybe he should be mentioned but as said, he was on Team USA and perhaps has been playing at this level for some time.
Perhaps when presented with being on a team with two Allstars and two very good wings its could be a function of his teammates that is keeping him out of the conversation.
Add some knick bias as fans? A little perhaps?
EwingsGlass wrote:5MOY?
Ha that's perfect!
I'm guessing MIP is like ROY and 6MOY where the only stat anyone looks at is PPG. Josh hasn't had a huge jump.
I'm happy to see Josh become the player we all wished Randle would be.
gradyandrew wrote:I'm guessing MIP is like ROY and 6MOY where the only stat anyone looks at is PPG. Josh hasn't had a huge jump.
I'm happy to see Josh become the player we all wished Randle would be.
Yeah, it usually goes to a guy who has a minutes jump or stretch of health that inflates his counting stats. I'm guessing it's going to be Cade.
Yes Cade was no.1 pick, but this was a "leap" year for him and he has helped turned Detroit from laughing stock to playoff team. Almost every part of his game has made a jump. Norman Powell deserves to be up there with him too. Maybe Dyson Daniels (but he will be more of a contender for DPOY)
Hart getting even better again.
What a game he just had: 19 pts, 15 RB, 7 AST, 3 STL, all while guarding the Greek.
I don't think he's in MIP territory yet, but unless he gets too many starts, I think he will be in the running for 6MOY
In last 5 games he's averaged:
15pts,
10 RB,
5.6 AST,
1.8 STL
and 40%from 3pt
When OG returns is Hart still in the starting line up ? If Hart continues to shoot the 3 at a high rate, I'd say so. I'd rather Hart starting and Mitch off the bench. Now we just need Yabu to improve so he can keep Hart from play too many minutes
As long as he’s shooting with confidence than it’s all good. Hes a starter.
martin wrote:Josh had 20 points on 8-12 sooting including 4-7 downtown, 12 rebounds with 5 offensive, 7 assists, 3 steals.Not bad
He's in good form. Finger no longer bothering him?
Remember all that Josh Hart slander in the offseason...
"Net negative player"
newyorknewyork wrote:Remember all that Josh Hart slander in the offseason...
"Net negative player"
Yeah, I totally didn't get that.
newyorknewyork wrote:Remember all that Josh Hart slander in the offseason...
"Net negative player"
Or early when it was thought his hand was in need of surgery?
Fans are impatient. Its the nature of things.
Nalod wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Remember all that Josh Hart slander in the offseason...
"Net negative player"
Or early when it was thought his hand was in need of surgery?
Fans are impatient. Its the nature of things.
Frustration over his hand was fair. As it looked like something could have had that taken care of in the offseason. But to have called him a net negative player after putting up basically 14-10-6 52%-33%-78% as the starting SG. With all-star caliber advanced metrics.
That's not a lack of patience. Its a lack of logic.
Panos wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Remember all that Josh Hart slander in the offseason...
"Net negative player"
Yeah, I totally didn't get that.
I admit, I got on him during the playoffs when he was passing up shots like Ben Simmons. He's looked so much better recently and it will be interesting to see if he can continue to shoot 38% from 3 as that would change a lot come playoff time.
newyorknewyork wrote:Nalod wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Remember all that Josh Hart slander in the offseason...
"Net negative player"
Or early when it was thought his hand was in need of surgery?
Fans are impatient. Its the nature of things.
Frustration over his hand was fair. As it looked like something could have had that taken care of in the offseason. But to have called him a net negative player after putting up basically 14-10-6 52%-33%-78% as the starting SG. With all-star caliber advanced metrics.
That's not a lack of patience. Its a lack of logic.
He was out a lot of preseason and needed time for his rhythm. He needed also to get his game conditioning set.
To insinute his hand was the issue with certainty without knowledge was silly.
Stick your neck out on it and own it.
We all wrong from time to time. Its no big deal. Except for children.
