martin wrote:DLeethal wrote:NYStateOfMind wrote:I think Shamet deserves the bench, not Precious.martin wrote:NYStateOfMind wrote:I might have missed it pregame, but was Precious hurt or sick?
Precious got Mitch bombed
Playing Precious and Mitch together seems disastrous.
Precious is confounding to me. He has been given chances and has moments and games where he is very soid, and then he tries to do something on offense that is way out of his bag and role and it ends up disasterous.
I'd guess he's now in the sporadic match-up territory cause of his lack of consistency and TO's and wild offensive takes. Shame.
He's an optimal 3rd stringer IMO. He can have some very positive games and impact but as an every night guy his deficiencies kind of outweigh everything else. He's too small to be a true force at backup C and his lack of offense at the 4 makes him pretty much unplayable there.
martin wrote:VDesai wrote:I said it on a game thread - how do you explain to someone that Precious is amazing and the worst player in the NBA all at the same time. The guy has great range and athleticism. Has great feet to defend smaller guys on the perimeter and makes amazing recovery blocks. Occasionally a dangerous finisher who makes a nice shot in the paint or some crazy up and under. At the same time throws up some of the worst bricks you will see and plays like someone who hasn't ever been coached or taught to play basketball. Problem is you don't really need to guard him because he can't do anything consistently. As good he is defensively, there are games where is boxed out far too easily and can't make an impact. Its hard to understand. There's time where he almost can approximate OG Anunoby's defensive role and plays with a Josh Hart motor....and then there's times where he doesn't do much at all.
It's a good take and probably what Toronto also saw. He has potential and all the tools to get to a different level but just isn't putting it together.
He may not have the bball IQ and consistent effort or something to put it all together.
At $6M he is OK off the bench to fill in spots.
with the way we started this - and have others we start slow.
It would perfect to start Prescious- let him the first 6 minutes and then bring in Hart.
If Prescious has played ok, maybe give him a stint in the 2nd half, otherwise, not off the bench again.
Hart was so lackluster in the 1st Half - and then awesome in the 2nd half.
We need him to energize the team - he needs to come off the bench!
Precious has been inconsistent but i'd like to think we continue to develop him and he shows improvement. He seems like a good safety valve if OG is out (seems to step up in those moments). Also important depth against bigger teams
Crazy to think that he was Wiseman's sidekick at Memphis and drafted #20 (by Miami one slot ahead of Maxey --bet they wish they had a do over) to Wiseman's #2
We're in great position if someone upsets OKC, Boston, Clev 
Man oh man that was such a sweet win! Came back down 19 and go on to be undefeated OT! Jalen freaking Brunson making all the clutch plays! MOST CLUTCH PLAYER IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE! And OG has probably a top 5 defensive performance I've ever seen from a NYK! He was just possessed on some plays! So much fun watching him play defense!!
martin wrote:VDesai wrote:I said it on a game thread - how do you explain to someone that Precious is amazing and the worst player in the NBA all at the same time. The guy has great range and athleticism. Has great feet to defend smaller guys on the perimeter and makes amazing recovery blocks. Occasionally a dangerous finisher who makes a nice shot in the paint or some crazy up and under. At the same time throws up some of the worst bricks you will see and plays like someone who hasn't ever been coached or taught to play basketball. Problem is you don't really need to guard him because he can't do anything consistently. As good he is defensively, there are games where is boxed out far too easily and can't make an impact. Its hard to understand. There's time where he almost can approximate OG Anunoby's defensive role and plays with a Josh Hart motor....and then there's times where he doesn't do much at all.
It's a good take and probably what Toronto also saw. He has potential and all the tools to get to a different level but just isn't putting it together.
He may not have the bball IQ and consistent effort or something to put it all together.
At $6M he is OK off the bench to fill in spots.
Yeah if he was better than this we wouldn't have been able to wait him out and get him for $6mm for 1 year. He's probably a better bench option for us than Obi Toppin was based on the role he can play, but he's a situational guy on a good team. Maybe he's a lower tier starter on a team short of PF or if he was playing next to a Vucevic type Center who can box out but also can stretch out some, but would benefit from having a mobile help defender next to him. I think he's just a raw player, never really refined his skills. He's like the opposite of Brunson who is so skilled, so subtle with his movements and so natural. Everything Precious does on offense looks kinda weird.
DLeethal wrote:
Its an interesting. People don't like this team as much as last year's team because the impression is that they don't fight as hard. Yet this team is SIGNIFICANTLY better in close games and is one of the best crunch time teams in the league this year. I think there's more volatility to this years team. Last year's team never got whacked (except Game 4 vs Indy, and I think being down so many men was probably why that happened). They played competetive games every time. This year's team actually has blown people out, and by a lot, way more often. They've also gotten whacked here and there themselves, but mostly vs. top tier teams. And they win a TON of close games.
Chandler wrote:Precious has been inconsistent but i'd like to think we continue to develop him and he shows improvement. He seems like a good safety valve if OG is out (seems to step up in those moments). Also important depth against bigger teamsCrazy to think that he was Wiseman's sidekick at Memphis and drafted #20 (by Miami one slot ahead of Maxey --bet they wish they had a do over) to Wiseman's #2
We're in great position if someone upsets OKC, Boston, Clev
2020 draft is shaping up to be a terrific draft overall with several stars coming out of it. There's some really bad picks sprinkled in with the good ones too. But there's great players all the way down in the first round. Scouts had a tough time evaluating that draft because of COVID and no NCAA tournament is my guess.
VDesai wrote:DLeethal wrote:
Its an interesting. People don't like this team as much as last year's team because the impression is that they don't fight as hard. Yet this team is SIGNIFICANTLY better in close games and is one of the best crunch time teams in the league this year. I think there's more volatility to this years team. Last year's team never got whacked (except Game 4 vs Indy, and I think being down so many men was probably why that happened). They played competetive games every time. This year's team actually has blown people out, and by a lot, way more often. They've also gotten whacked here and there themselves, but mostly vs. top tier teams. And they win a TON of close games.
January 2024 Knicks didn't play close games because they were too busy blowing teams out!
The Knicks finish January with a 14-2 record and post the NBA’s best month by margin of victory since 2019
Tonight’s 118-103 victory by the Knicks brings their record in January to 14-2 and their total point differential in the month to +246, the best total in a calendar month since the Milwaukee Bucks outscored opponents by 248 in December 2019. The Knicks’ January 2024 ranks tenth in NBA history.Can the Knicks keep this post-OG Anunoby trade momentum going through the All-Star break with Julius Randle out due to injury? After such a great month, should the Knicks risk disrupting the team’s synergy with a deadline deal?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1a...
franco12 wrote:VDesai wrote:DLeethal wrote:
Its an interesting. People don't like this team as much as last year's team because the impression is that they don't fight as hard. Yet this team is SIGNIFICANTLY better in close games and is one of the best crunch time teams in the league this year. I think there's more volatility to this years team. Last year's team never got whacked (except Game 4 vs Indy, and I think being down so many men was probably why that happened). They played competetive games every time. This year's team actually has blown people out, and by a lot, way more often. They've also gotten whacked here and there themselves, but mostly vs. top tier teams. And they win a TON of close games.
January 2024 Knicks didn't play close games because they were too busy blowing teams out!
The Knicks finish January with a 14-2 record and post the NBA’s best month by margin of victory since 2019
Tonight’s 118-103 victory by the Knicks brings their record in January to 14-2 and their total point differential in the month to +246, the best total in a calendar month since the Milwaukee Bucks outscored opponents by 248 in December 2019. The Knicks’ January 2024 ranks tenth in NBA history.Can the Knicks keep this post-OG Anunoby trade momentum going through the All-Star break with Julius Randle out due to injury? After such a great month, should the Knicks risk disrupting the team’s synergy with a deadline deal?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1a...
December Knicks werent shabby! 12-2 +170
DLeethal wrote:
This team has fight.
JB has the clutch gene!
A lot of bball lingo that I have no clue about
martin wrote:VDesai wrote:I said it on a game thread - how do you explain to someone that Precious is amazing and the worst player in the NBA all at the same time. The guy has great range and athleticism. Has great feet to defend smaller guys on the perimeter and makes amazing recovery blocks. Occasionally a dangerous finisher who makes a nice shot in the paint or some crazy up and under. At the same time throws up some of the worst bricks you will see and plays like someone who hasn't ever been coached or taught to play basketball. Problem is you don't really need to guard him because he can't do anything consistently. As good he is defensively, there are games where is boxed out far too easily and can't make an impact. Its hard to understand. There's time where he almost can approximate OG Anunoby's defensive role and plays with a Josh Hart motor....and then there's times where he doesn't do much at all.
It's a good take and probably what Toronto also saw. He has potential and all the tools to get to a different level but just isn't putting it together.
He may not have the bball IQ and consistent effort or something to put it all together.
At $6M he is OK off the bench to fill in spots.
I absolutely love to root for Precious BUT he's been mediocre in his minutes this year -- too many bunnies missed and not electric enough defensively or active enough on boards. Some good moments but exposed with more minutes.
Seems he is playable next to Kat BUT you can't also have Hart on floor with Precious. Also Precious is good as a small ball 5 but only in small sample sizes and again I think playing him with Hart (2 non-shooters is not good).
LivingLegend wrote:martin wrote:VDesai wrote:I said it on a game thread - how do you explain to someone that Precious is amazing and the worst player in the NBA all at the same time. The guy has great range and athleticism. Has great feet to defend smaller guys on the perimeter and makes amazing recovery blocks. Occasionally a dangerous finisher who makes a nice shot in the paint or some crazy up and under. At the same time throws up some of the worst bricks you will see and plays like someone who hasn't ever been coached or taught to play basketball. Problem is you don't really need to guard him because he can't do anything consistently. As good he is defensively, there are games where is boxed out far too easily and can't make an impact. Its hard to understand. There's time where he almost can approximate OG Anunoby's defensive role and plays with a Josh Hart motor....and then there's times where he doesn't do much at all.
It's a good take and probably what Toronto also saw. He has potential and all the tools to get to a different level but just isn't putting it together.
He may not have the bball IQ and consistent effort or something to put it all together.
At $6M he is OK off the bench to fill in spots.
I absolutely love to root for Precious BUT he's been mediocre in his minutes this year -- too many bunnies missed and not electric enough defensively or active enough on boards. Some good moments but exposed with more minutes.
Seems he is playable next to Kat BUT you can't also have Hart on floor with Precious. Also Precious is good as a small ball 5 but only in small sample sizes and again I think playing him with Hart (2 non-shooters is not good).
You see Precious standing next to Mitch, and you can see why he has trouble at the 5. He’s not big enough to be a legit 5. I think he can be an effective backup 4. With occasional starts due to an OG injury.
GustavBahler wrote:LivingLegend wrote:martin wrote:VDesai wrote:I said it on a game thread - how do you explain to someone that Precious is amazing and the worst player in the NBA all at the same time. The guy has great range and athleticism. Has great feet to defend smaller guys on the perimeter and makes amazing recovery blocks. Occasionally a dangerous finisher who makes a nice shot in the paint or some crazy up and under. At the same time throws up some of the worst bricks you will see and plays like someone who hasn't ever been coached or taught to play basketball. Problem is you don't really need to guard him because he can't do anything consistently. As good he is defensively, there are games where is boxed out far too easily and can't make an impact. Its hard to understand. There's time where he almost can approximate OG Anunoby's defensive role and plays with a Josh Hart motor....and then there's times where he doesn't do much at all.
It's a good take and probably what Toronto also saw. He has potential and all the tools to get to a different level but just isn't putting it together.
He may not have the bball IQ and consistent effort or something to put it all together.
At $6M he is OK off the bench to fill in spots.
I absolutely love to root for Precious BUT he's been mediocre in his minutes this year -- too many bunnies missed and not electric enough defensively or active enough on boards. Some good moments but exposed with more minutes.
Seems he is playable next to Kat BUT you can't also have Hart on floor with Precious. Also Precious is good as a small ball 5 but only in small sample sizes and again I think playing him with Hart (2 non-shooters is not good).
You see Precious standing next to Mitch, and you can see why he has trouble at the 5. He’s not big enough to be a legit 5. I think he can be an effective backup 4. With occasional starts due to an OG injury.
Precious is fantastic for the price, and loves NY. One of my favorite players to root for.
He’ll be back in the rotation in no time.
