VDesai wrote:Its just sad. We cant score
Deuce is not really a PG. Why is he starting there?
Kolek needs minutes somewhere (at least off bench) and he is a GREAT distrubutor, would help create scoring for team.
Thibs stubborness is tiring.
You can't win at basketball when you shoot 38%. Basic.
What the hell happened to our offense. For a few we was on a historic pace and now its trash. Did our defense improve while our offense took a step back? No, its still trash. How the hell is our record so good when we are trash on both ends?
Clean wrote:
What the hell happened to our offense. For a few we was on a historic pace and now its trash. Did our defense improve while our offense took a step back? No, its still trash. How the hell is our record so good when we are trash on both ends?
The stats in that post are Last 10 games, during which time the Knicks are 5-5 (not so good).
Panos wrote:Clean wrote:
What the hell happened to our offense. For a few we was on a historic pace and now its trash. Did our defense improve while our offense took a step back? No, its still trash. How the hell is our record so good when we are trash on both ends?
The stats in that post are Last 10 games, during which time the Knicks are 5-5 (not so good).
Tried? Better competition that we are playing against?
My man OG did his disappearing act on offense again. When we really needed him.
KAT not great. When we needed him.
Deuce failed to step up. When we needed him.
Bridges nice game.
No JB will help these guys get it going. We will need them come playoffs
Some glaring issues continue to show.....
- complimented Deuce a few games ago and since he is back to shatting the bed
- Deuce not a PG yet Thibs keeps making him a PG
- our primary players can't dribble/pass without major issues (this is glaring)
- Josh Hart stats may be a MIRAGE --- Elfrid Payton has 17 triple doubles in his career. Elfrid was a far superior ball handler, passer and defender vs Josh. Is Josh a poor mans Elfrid????
- Kat shot selection is NOT GOOD. The drives thru 3 and 4 defenders into contested layups that result in other team fast break and Kat yelling OMG jogging back up court
- KAT D is brutal
- OG proves walking and chewing gum is in fact impossible when done at same time
Meanwhile Thibs is grinding guys +40 minutes on 2nd of back-back.
Barring a dramatic turn around I think axe may fall on Thibs this summer.
Not seen tonight -- our brutal offense with Jalen holding ball for 98% of shot clock -- it seems we can be bad with/without Jalen.
ToddTT wrote:
Should have been a win off this pic alone.
martin wrote:Deuce getting the call! Work it brutha!! And keep it loose!
Brutha let us down BIG TIME. Not sure he has made a bucket in Cali.
martin wrote:This is not pretty
The lack of an ability to create a shot on their own is glaring when Jalen doesn't have the ball.
I'm not a fan of ISO Jalen (wasn't a fan of ISO Melo or ISO Joe Johnson) but the rest of our squad can't create their own shot.
Go back to last years trade deadline and the need for another big guard or wing that can create shots off the dribble.
Deuce was horrid at PG, but mostly bc the 3 isnt falling. Payne played PG better but he also missed every shot.
The only guy who made shots was Bridges and he took 12 shots. Thats unacceptable with Brunson out. Where js the aggression.
Too many turnovers with guys not comfortable with initiating
Kolek will help if he can get a flight.
People want to scapegoat Josh but 20 fucking rebounds that mostly started transition offense. The only we could score.
We actually need TJ Warren bc he is a bucket getter.
WP76 wrote:It occurs to me that the hours I've spent watching this losing effort going past midnight are hours I'll never get back, sigh.
The whole Phil Jackson era in a nutshell
VDesai wrote:Deuce was horrid at PG, but mostly bc the 3 isnt falling. Payne played PG better but he also missed every shot.The only guy who made shots was Bridges and he took 12 shots. Thats unacceptable with Brunson out. Where js the aggression.
Too many turnovers with guys not comfortable with initiating
Kolek will help if he can get a flight.
People want to scapegoat Josh but 20 fucking rebounds that mostly started transition offense. The only we could score.
We actually need TJ Warren bc he is a bucket getter.
Knicks knew Jalen wasn’t gonna play. don’t know why Kolek wasn’t FedEx’ed to LA for the game.
I have said nothing about Kolek not being ready to play because chances are he was not going to get meaningful minutes anyway. You guys forget who our coach is? Kolek at max is getting 10 minutes if he plays at all. The first mistake he does he will get sat for the rest of the game. Like the video above said all these things are what Thibs has done for years. People would argue with me about Thibs issues as a coach years ago and now all those same issues are coming back like they always do.
Clean wrote:I have said nothing about Kolek not being ready to play because chances are he was not going to get meaningful minutes anyway. You guys forget who our coach is? Kolek at max is getting 10 minutes if he plays at all. The first mistake he does he will get sat for the rest of the game. Like the video above said all these things are what Thibs has done for years. People would argue with me about Thibs issues as a coach years ago and now all those same issues are coming back like they always do.
This is his moment. It’s Kolek Time.
I didn’t catch most of last night’s game but I’d guess we solidly know Deuce is not the PG to get things moving and would be better off ball. Cam has moments but he is limited.
Last man standing. What is the short white guy version of Linsanity?
Huk got his time, Kolek is up. Hopefully
Tough loss. Was a 1 point game going in the 4th and Clippers were just better. Those 2 offensive putbacks by Bogdanovic and those 2 badly missed threes by KAT were huge. We played alright and would've won this game easily if the Cap was playing but that's life. Can't win on the road shooting 38.5% and 9/34 from three.
We're going to need Deuce to play a lot better in JB's absence. He just wasn't good - 7 on 2/13 shooting 2/9 from three. Struggled to get the team set up. Offense looked slughist and sloppy. KAT also shot poorly and didn't have a great game. He looks a step slow and I'm giving him a pass with everything going on in his personal life and he has that bum knee but hopefully he can return to his normal self soon. Major props to KAT for toughing it out and playing but we need KAT at his best this next few weeks. Hate how he started the game giving up 2 open dunks to Zubac. OG wasn't good offensively either but played some nice defense on Harden. Defense overall was solid.
Bridges was a lot more aggressive and did some nice things like getting to the line 6 times and had that nice block on Harden. And shot really well but 12 shots in 43 minutes is not enough. We need more! Hart tied his career high with 20 rebounds but he's still hesitating on open looks. I'm sure Thibs and his staff and his teammates have told him to just let it fly and I'm sure he will be okay but it's frustrating to see. I honestly don't care if he misses but he hurts the team when he passes them up.
That's 3 losses in a row but the next 6 of 7 are fairly winnable so we should be fine. I'll say it again, seeding doesn't matter this season. Be it Cleveland or Boston in the second round, who cares? We're going to be a heavy underdog either way. Let's give ourselves the best chance by being as healthy as possible. And if we drop to 5th and lose homecourt, I could care less too! The Garden is no advantage as we've learned over the years.
Unfortunately Deuce doesn't see the court like a PG. As others have mentioned, Kolek does. His defense, lateral quickness might keep him from prime time until next season. Cam would be a better fit with JB out, and Deuce can go back to instant offense.
Some want KAT to take 3s like he did in Minny. I disagree. Before he got hurt, there was a nice balance between drives and 3pt attempts. Writers, former players, have been complimenting KAT’s newfound aggressiveness all season. It forces the defense to respect his ability to take it to the rim. Less predictable.
Not playing Kolek this whole season really hurt us as he would be much better prepared had he gotten some burn.
This Brunson injury may be a blessing in disguise as we need team ball to win and Kolek brings that out. As others have mentioned, the team often just gets out of the way and Brunson goes Hero ball. That will help us in clutch moments in playoffs, but you can't play the whole game this way. We have to play team ball.
