Knicks · Kolek has no bag (page 16)

Alpha1971 @ 12/24/2025 5:25 AM
Remind me again why the Knicks didn't draft Dunn instead of Dadiet ? Cause if we had a draft of Dunn, Kolek, Hukporti ( Mculler ) they could be celebrating a great haul. Dadiet still has time but what was the reason that getting Dadiet to take less on his deal first season was so important ?
TheGame @ 12/24/2025 6:01 AM
Kolek looked just okay yesterday. He set new career highs, but he had a lot of mistakes. It is understandable. He needs to improve the 3 pt shooting, the defense, and his command of the offense. It is growing pains. He still looks like someone with the potential to be starter in 2 years.
newyorknewyork @ 12/24/2025 7:51 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:Remind me again why the Knicks didn't draft Dunn instead of Dadiet ? Cause if we had a draft of Dunn, Kolek, Hukporti ( Mculler ) they could be celebrating a great haul. Dadiet still has time but what was the reason that getting Dadiet to take less on his deal first season was so important ?

They wanted to stash him overseas and not take on the salary when they initially made the draft choice.

martin @ 12/24/2025 3:17 PM
His bag is definitely weird

martin @ 12/25/2025 9:47 AM
Incoming!!!

BigDaddyG @ 12/25/2025 2:09 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Remind me again why the Knicks didn't draft Dunn instead of Dadiet ? Cause if we had a draft of Dunn, Kolek, Hukporti ( Mculler ) they could be celebrating a great haul. Dadiet still has time but what was the reason that getting Dadiet to take less on his deal first season was so important ?

They wanted to stash him overseas and not take on the salary when they initially made the draft choice.

Honestly, I would still draft Dadiet over Dunn today. Dunn is unplayable in a team with title aspirations until he gets a jump shot. I went in with the idea that Dadiet is a few years away. But if he does hit, you get a wing with size, decent defense and a shot that has to be respected by the opposing defense. Time will tell.

VDesai @ 12/25/2025 2:56 PM
Today Kolek turned into Josh Hart!
markvmc @ 12/25/2025 3:19 PM
Knixkik wrote:Kolek just has to develop that 3pt shot and will be good.

Based on today, I'd say it's coming along nicely.

fitzfarm @ 12/25/2025 3:36 PM
Kolek will probably start if Josh misses some time, I’m excited to see Brunson and Kolek play a ton of minutes together.

The Kolek emergence I think keeps us pat at the trade deadline unless we can move Yabusele for a backup 4 .

ramtour420 @ 12/25/2025 4:17 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Kolek will probably start if Josh misses some time, I’m excited to see Brunson and Kolek play a ton of minutes together.

The Kolek emergence I think keeps us pat at the trade deadline unless we can move Yabusele for a backup 4 .

I'd move Yabusele, but he is a minus asset at this point. Would require attaching a second rounder. I would not sell low. Eventually he will have some moments and some games. Once his trade value goes back up- then I'd trade him. His only possible way is up at this point. Yes!!! Finding some positivity.....

Philc1 @ 12/25/2025 6:10 PM
He’s got a bag.
martin @ 12/25/2025 8:57 PM
Greatest reverse jinx thread EVER

martin @ 12/25/2025 8:58 PM
martin @ 12/25/2025 8:59 PM
Not my joke but Palen Brunson is awesome
LivingLegend @ 12/25/2025 10:08 PM
martin wrote:His bag is definitely weird

That is a very very positive sign for Kolek

Panos @ 12/26/2025 8:07 AM
Koko-Loco!
blkexec @ 12/26/2025 9:18 AM
blkexec wrote:
blkexec wrote:Kolek doesn’t just have a bag
He has a COACH


What a difference a coach makes.
Props to Thibs just like Mark Jackson did for Kerr. Brown is enjoying the fruits of Thibs labor. But we needed Brown to unlock the potential of Kolek and raise his ceiling.

Nalod @ 12/26/2025 10:20 AM
Thibs a taskmaster who wants his players to abide. Brown is drilling them but then wants them to play looser.

Mikal likley would have wanted out if Thibs stayed. Brown got Mikal back to where he was before knicks.
OG seems a bit looser also. Thibs did good work with OG and Brown is not fucking it up.
Towns? He is the key. There is something evolving here. Better foot work on Defense and less complaining.

fitzfarm @ 12/26/2025 12:01 PM
Kolek and Brunson on the floor together is a match made in heaven and an absolute nightmare for opponents. Kolek is an elite offensive qb who gets everyone the ball for optimal Scoring. He’s also a Brunson lite and can score himself .

No Buddy is making the comparison but to me this guy screams John Stockton. Kolek allows Brunson to be a off ball scorer where he thrives…

I would not be shocked if Kolek ends up in the starting line up permanently and without question he’ll be closing games with Brunson.


We do not win the game on Christmas without Kolek . Just a phenomenal second round find … this kinda reminds me of when Brunson had his coming out party in Dallas .

Kolek not only has a bag this guy is an absolute dog.


In all my life of wishing the Knicks could just have a pg for our great players throughout the years the Knicks now have two …

The mark jackson curse is finally over .. that was the worst trade pat the rat ever did … if we had mark, Knicks win the chip in 94.. I remember watching that and thinking all we were missing was mark.

Nalod @ 12/26/2025 12:29 PM
If Josh is to miss games things are getting a bit thin off the bench. Maybe move Mikal to the 2 and Diawa gets the start?
Its not who starts, but who finishes and the Kolek/Brunson thing is very good. It gives Jalen an easier time and that was very apparent down the stretch. Kolek was impressive but Brunson set the table with some key buckets getting the lead cut.
Deuce will need to shake some rust and get back into game shape.

Kolek rise makes any trade rumor for DDV a bit off for now.

BlueKnickers @ 12/26/2025 1:58 PM
Since Kolek is being compared to prior white HOF PGs, I decided to ask Perplexity to compare them. One note: they were all roughly the same size, but Kolek is a good 15-20 lbs heavier than the other three were when they played in the NBA. Bet you didn't expect to hear that.

My Question to Perplexity:
how does Tyler Kolek's basketball skills compare to the following three NBA players:
John Stockton
Mark Price
Steve Nash

Here's the output:

Reviewed 20 sources
Tyler Kolek profiles as a crafty, high-feel, pick‑and‑roll playmaking point guard whose game most closely resembles a “lite” version of Steve Nash or John Stockton, with less athleticism and shooting pedigree than Nash and less defensive impact than Stockton or Mark Price. He has the IQ, passing vision and toughness to stylistically fit in that lineage, but his size, burst and scoring ceiling make him a tier or two below those three historically elite NBA guards as prospects.

Stylistic similarities
Kolek vs Stockton

Both are classic pick‑and‑roll operators who use court vision and timing rather than elite burst, thriving as organizers who hit rollers and shooters in tight windows.

Like Stockton, Kolek is described as scrappy, competitive and IQ-driven, leveraging anticipation and positioning more than physical tools on defense, though Kolek projects as a weaker overall defender at the NBA level.

Kolek vs Mark Price

Price blended elite playmaking with deep shooting range and off‑ball gravity, making him extremely hard to guard in pick‑and‑roll and spot‑up situations.

Kolek offers similar pick‑and‑roll craft and developing shooting with good touch and a “projectable” jumper, but he lacks Price’s proven top‑tier three‑point marksmanship and overall athletic pop.

Kolek vs Nash

Kolek’s best comp archetype is a poor‑man’s Nash: a cerebral floor general, high‑level pick‑and‑roll reader, and crafty finisher who uses pace changes and a “Nash dribble” to probe and manipulate defenses.

Nash, however, combined that feel with truly elite shooting (pull‑up and spot‑up) and on‑ball scoring threat, which Kolek has not matched from a tools or volume standpoint, and Nash was a far more efficient offensive engine at NBA level.

Strengths vs those three
Playmaking and feel

Kolek is widely praised for elite competitiveness, feel for the game, and ability to “control the game” as an on‑court coach, making advanced reads out of pick‑and‑roll and consistently finding shooters and cutters.

In the college context, his manipulation of pace, angles and second‑line defenders is closer to the Stockton/Nash model than to scoring‑first modern guards, which makes him very translatable as a table‑setter.

Scoring efficiency and touch

Kolek’s stat profile—high efficiency at the rim for his size, soft touch on floaters, and seasons with strong percentages from two, three and the line—suggests he can be a very efficient secondary scorer if his volume scales.

Mark Price and Nash set the bar with 50–40–90‑type shooting and sustained long‑range excellence, so Kolek’s strength here is “good for a role PG” rather than “historic shooter” like those two.

Decision‑making and scheme fit

Kolek is praised for minimizing mistakes while still being aggressive enough to run sets at various tempos, projecting cleanly into structured offenses that rely on read‑and‑react principles.

That aligns him with Stockton/Nash in terms of running an efficient offense, though he is more likely to top out as a high‑end role starter or elite backup than as an MVP‑level heliocentric hub.

Weaknesses vs those three
Physical tools and athleticism

Kolek’s biggest knocks are limited speed, burst, length and vertical pop, which raise concerns about finishing against NBA rim protectors and surviving defensively at the point of attack.

Stockton, Price and Nash were not elite athletes either, but each had at least one compensating advantage—Stockton’s strength and toughness, Price’s quickness, Nash’s balance and off‑the‑dribble shot—that elevated them beyond baseline starter level.

Defense

Kolek is an intelligent, effortful team defender but is projected to struggle guarding the ball because of short arms, limited recovery speed and susceptibility to being blown by.

Stockton was a genuinely disruptive on‑ball and team defender, piling up steals and setting the standard for point‑guard defense in his era, while Nash and Price, though imperfect, were generally closer to average than to liability at their peak.

High‑end offensive ceiling

Elite historical point guards like Nash, Stockton and Price could take on greater scoring loads or bend defenses to degrees that inflated their teammates’ efficiency and lifted entire offenses.

Kolek’s reliance on his left hand, unorthodox “push” shooting form, and lack of blow‑by speed make it less likely that he ever reaches that level of self‑creation or on‑ball scoring gravity, even if he becomes a very solid NBA starter.

In short, Kolek plays the same type of point guard as Stockton, Price and Nash—IQ, pick‑and‑roll craft, and passing—but projects as more of a solid starter/rotation guard whose ceiling depends on how far his shooting and finishing can scale against NBA length and athleticism

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