This is a crazy discussion.
How quickly we forget how well Bridges was playing before this TEAM slump. I appreciate Shamet but he and Bridges are NOT on the same level.
Bridges (and OG) have the responsibility of guarding their opponents top offensive players and, at times, make up for Brunsons and KAT LACK of defensive prowess. That will affect their offense game at times.
There was an earlier episode on the HART/Brunson podcast where Hart talks about why he sacrifices his offensive game because it’s so hard to be a “2 way” player.
ramtour420 wrote:martin wrote:ramtour420 wrote:VDesai wrote:Shamet isn't better. However if the Mikal role was to guard ballhandlers, shoot threes and provide some secondary shot creation off the bounce- than Deuce does all of those things better than Mikal.There's been this debate over whether Deuce should start over Hart. Deuce doesn't do the Hart things as well (Rebound, playmaking).
So there's absolutely an argument for Deuce to start over Mikal and not Hart.
Ok, let's take this thought and run with it. Agree that maybe moving Bridges to the bench for a few games might light a fire. Either that or cause discontent. Either would be better than coasting, which I feel he is doing now. If he gets upset with benching then there is going to be a reaction. Bridges being a grownup I expect an adult reaction. We need that for the second half of the season playoff push.
Benching a player for a month of bad games would be disastrous for a team. It’s why coaches don’t do it to guys at that level.
It’s a sure fire way for a coach to get fired or lose his whole team and then get fired. This is like coaching 202.
Good thing I am not a coach then. Screw that. Let's just have Bridges coast off of his amazing accolades. Like he is a superstar that's living out his legacy towards retirement. His achievements include:1) 5 first round picks
2) The Streak
3) Two way player
4) ....drawing blanks here,those two plays in the Celtics series maybe?
Forgot one
5)the Villanova connection. Of course
Btw ,I didn't want this to become a "$hit on Bridges"thread. I actually like him because of point number 3 on my list. I just feel like Shamet might be a better player, that's all
Sure you did. You created a thread basically saying that a Vet Minimum player who has been injured and missed significant time while here is better than Bridges and also pointed out how much thr Knicks gave up for him in a trade. That's shitting on a player 101.
Shamet is good as a role player against mostly 2nd units for 3 & D. When you put him against starters for significant time, his value diminishes and becomes exposed.
foosballnick wrote:ramtour420 wrote:martin wrote:ramtour420 wrote:VDesai wrote:Shamet isn't better. However if the Mikal role was to guard ballhandlers, shoot threes and provide some secondary shot creation off the bounce- than Deuce does all of those things better than Mikal.There's been this debate over whether Deuce should start over Hart. Deuce doesn't do the Hart things as well (Rebound, playmaking).
So there's absolutely an argument for Deuce to start over Mikal and not Hart.
Ok, let's take this thought and run with it. Agree that maybe moving Bridges to the bench for a few games might light a fire. Either that or cause discontent. Either would be better than coasting, which I feel he is doing now. If he gets upset with benching then there is going to be a reaction. Bridges being a grownup I expect an adult reaction. We need that for the second half of the season playoff push.
Benching a player for a month of bad games would be disastrous for a team. It’s why coaches don’t do it to guys at that level.
It’s a sure fire way for a coach to get fired or lose his whole team and then get fired. This is like coaching 202.
Good thing I am not a coach then. Screw that. Let's just have Bridges coast off of his amazing accolades. Like he is a superstar that's living out his legacy towards retirement. His achievements include:1) 5 first round picks
2) The Streak
3) Two way player
4) ....drawing blanks here,those two plays in the Celtics series maybe?
Forgot one
5)the Villanova connection. Of course
Btw ,I didn't want this to become a "$hit on Bridges"thread. I actually like him because of point number 3 on my list. I just feel like Shamet might be a better player, that's all
Sure you did. You created a thread basically saying that a Vet Minimum player who has been injured and missed significant time while here is better than Bridges and also pointed out how much thr Knicks gave up for him in a trade. That's shitting on a player 101.
Shamet is good as a role player against mostly 2nd units for 3 & D. When you put him against starters for significant time, his value diminishes and becomes exposed.
Also the picks are still years out and this is a win now team. It won last year.
ITs like Money. Spend it on a vacation and pehraps enjoy the moment and the memories. You don't have the money but did you get something in return?
The big issue with Shamet is he clearly has chronic shoulder issues and anytime he hits a screen his shoulder might separate. That’s a really hard thing to trust.
Shamet is a really good bench player in a well defined role.
Mikal is a really good role player starter on pretty much any team.
Bridges is getting really trashed which I get, but he is the second best player behind Deuce in terms of on/ off and his impact goes beyond some of the on court stuff. I’ll trade him for Giannis of course but I’m not down on him and understand coasting in a long nba season. He’s been mostly as advertised the last year and 1/2 to me.
Shamet is DDV lite. Energy wing off the bench who can sometimes hit a 3. Nice player he’s not as good as Bridges.
