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Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by 4949:

Giardi says Pettitte is coming back!

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/yankees/a...

And Cameron deal is dead!!

So' with that said, we will have a starting five in the rotation and with the Yankees not needing anymore pitching and Cameron deal done I think the Yankees can' and should go snatch Tex from baston-bastards and then go get Manny NOW!

I'm very happy with the progress that has been made.

girardi says pettitte *wants* to come back. not that he is coming back. big difference.

It says 'he wants to be hear'. Good enough for me. He'll be back. Pretty stupid not' to be a part of this. I think a Tex and/or Manny deal will do it.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by 4949:

Giardi says Pettitte is coming back!

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/yankees/a...

And Cameron deal is dead!!

So' with that said, we will have a starting five in the rotation and with the Yankees not needing anymore pitching and Cameron deal done I think the Yankees can' and should go snatch Tex from baston-bastards and then go get Manny NOW!

I'm very happy with the progress that has been made.

girardi says pettitte *wants* to come back. not that he is coming back. big difference.

It says 'he wants to be hear'. Good enough for me. He'll be back. Pretty stupid not' to be a part of this. I think a Tex and/or Manny deal will do it.

I just hope Brian does something significant to upgrade the offense. We were SEVENTH in the AL in runs scored last year--right in the middle of the pack. It's bad enough to construct a $200 mil team that was only average in offense (last year) but then to put together a $200 mil team the next season without doing anything to improve the offensive would be unbelievable.

Manny is in the picture. That's not the problem. The problem is deciding whether to bring another bopper in. Right now, I think Pettitte is holding things up. The sooner he makes up his mind, the faster we can move. Notice that no one else has made a serous move for Manny yet? The Yankees, Manny and everyone else knows that only' the Yankees can bring him in. As a matter of fact, the commitment isn't bad at all for him when it's finally said and done. And bastan-bastards certainly aren't going to re-sign him either.

Posted by djsunyc:

Sam Borden just sent this to me. Lots of good info:

Brian Cashman gets (and deserves) a lot of credit for bringing CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett to the Yankees, but Johnny Damon may have been the Yankees’ biggest recruiter this winter. Amber Sabathia said that Johnny’s wife, Michelle, played a big part in convincing her it was possible to enjoy raising a family in the New York area.

The Damons spent their first two years with the Yanks living in Manhattan, but then moved to the New Jersey suburbs, and Michelle sold Amber on the suburban life.

“She said you’re going to love it,” Amber said. “The schools are good, the pediatricians are good, the supermarkets are good – it’s like a nice little place to live.”

The Sabathias have three kids – CC Jr., age 5; Jaden, age 3; and Cyia, 2-months – but Amber and CC plan to spend some time in Manhattan, too. Amber said their favorite restaurant is Tao – an Asian spot which serves some of the greatest sushi and fragrant duck in the city – and that she is “a Saks’ girl.”

Johnny D was also one of two Yankees to call Burnett (A-Rod was the other) during the offseason, and he gave Burnett the hard sell about coming to the Bronx. Cashman said that Damon – along with Derek Jeter and others – also bent his ear during the season about getting Burnett since he always gave the Yankees such a hard time whenever he pitched against them.
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The first serious conversation about the Yankees getting CC Sabathia didn’t happen this winter. It happened last offseason, when the Yanks were considering whether to trade for and then give an extension to Johan Santana. Knowing that Sabathia was going to be available, the Yanks decided not to give up prospects and money for Santana, and instead “take a gamble,” in Cashman’s words, on getting Sabathia for only money in free agency.

As it turned out, that long-term plan played a big part in Sabathia ultimately accepting the Yankees’ offer. At the final meeting Cashman and Sabathia had at Sabathia’s California home, Cashman laid out exactly how long Sabathia had been on the Yankees’ radar. He told Sabathia and his agents how the Yankees had been targeting him for over a year and explained the entire process behind their decision, in hopes it would show how committed the Yankees were to Sabathia.

“Ten minutes after he left, I called him to tell him I’m in,” Sabathia said. “That really meant a lot to me.”
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Here’s the info on two things about Carsten Charles Sabthia that seem to get an excessive amount of attention: His weight and his initials.

First, Sabathia doesn’t seem bothered or embarrassed about being a big dude. When a reporter asked if anyone had ever tried to get him to lose weight on a previous team or if he felt he would want to do that, he smiled and said, “I work hard every day. I work out every day. In December and January, I do two-a-days.” Then he paused and said, “I look like this. I don’t think my physique is going to change.”

Joe Girardi vouched for Sabathia’s work ethic, saying he recalled a game earlier this year when the Yankees beat Sabathia, 1-0, in Cleveland on a Friday night. “I got the weight room Saturday morning at 9 a.m.,” Girardi said, “and he was already there.”

As for Sabathia’s initials, there was much debate over whether it should be “CC” or “C.C.” When he was asked about it yesterday, Sabathia spread his arms out wide and said, “Y’all do it however you want,” before laughing over what an issue it had become. “I don’t really care at all,” he said. And what does he write when he signs his name? “Carsten, if I have to write it,” he said. So there you go.
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Don’t look for either CC Sabathia or A.J. Burnett to participate in the World Baseball Classic this spring. Sabathia said he’s been approached and, while he hasn’t made an official decision, it seemed like he’s leaning towards sitting it out. “I want to get acclimated and be around my new teammates,” he said. Burnett said, “I have not been contacted but I’d say ‘no.’ … It’s a cool idea but it’s not for me.”

Both pitchers have some previous relationships with other Yankees. Burnett heard from A-Rod and Johnny Damon this winter and knows a number of other Yanks from playing against them with the Blue Jays, while Sabathia became friendly with Jorge Posada when both were on an offseason cruise run by Nike. Sabathia is also tight with Joba Chamberlain, who he says he saw out running in Cleveland during a series there, “and we stopped and talked for like 30 minutes.” The two exchanged numbers and have been close ever since. They even went out to eat together last week.

Burnett was also close with former Yankee (and forever American Idle) Carl Pavano. Burnett said he talked to Pavano before the last series the Blue Jays played at Yankee Stadium while the Idle was long-tossing along the third-base line. So did Pavano offer any worldly advice about how to be a true Yankee?

“I only listen to SOME things Carl says,” Burnett said as the room erupted with laughter. “Only some things.”
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The Yankees announced two big signings yesterday but there continues to be a lot of buzz about two other potential deals: One for Andy Pettitte and one for Manny Ramirez.

There wasn’t a whole lot of news on either of those fronts yesterday, with Brian Cashman saying, “Andy is a free agent. I know he’d like to be here and I know we’d like for him to be here.” Cashman did say that his visit to Houston wasn’t a “take-it-or-leave-it” trip to see Pettitte, but it seems clear the Yankees are prepared to move on from this situation either way. If Pettitte wants to stay, he’ll take the $10 million the Yanks are offering. If he doesn’t like that, the Yankees will go elsewhere and be just fine doing so.

As for Manny Being Manny, no one at the Stadium was taking the bait yesterday. Hal Steinbrenner was asked how realistic it was that Manny might end up in the Bronx, and he said, “As realistic as all of the other free agents because we’re looking at all of them.”

Steinbrenner and Cashman did both say that the Yankees don’t have an unlimited payroll, so that’s another factor to consider when dreaming about Manny (or Mark Teixeira). There also wasn’t much discussion about the Mike Cameron-for-Melky deal, which seems to be dead (though Sabathia did put in a plug for Cameron, who was his buddy in Milwaukee).
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Great stuff by Sam and thanks to him.

I’ve told Sam what I’m telling you now: He has an open invite to post here about the Yankees any time he wants. As a former beat writer, Sam has great insight into the team and his input is welcome. In addition to what he brings to the table journalistically, he is a good friend and we’ve collaborated on some projects. So look for more from Sam here in the future.

i refuse to believe Steinbrenner & Cashman until they provide a credible source for that information.

Of course there's some limit but they didn't say it was limited to the arbitrary $190 mil # you and Isles somehow (?!) came up with


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-19-2008 9:52 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

On ESPN radio, they kept calling AJ our #2 pitcher. I was really surprised. I'd been assuming Wang would be #2 and AJ #3. Obviously this will all sort itself out with time but just wondering--Who would you guys consider our #2 right now?

both Wang & AJB throw hard sinkers & both can notch it up to the high 90's... i don't think it really matters who gets the ball to follow CC to be honest... but i guess since Wang is more of a contact pitcher & AJB strikes guys out, i might separate the 2 w/Wang, but then Joba's also a strikeout pitcher who throws gas... if Andy signs i would definitely separate the 2 lefties w/Joba at the #5 slot tho... his innings might be on a careful watch being it's his first full ML season as a starter so i think that's the way i would go, at least in the regular season.

'tis good to have these kinds of problems.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

On ESPN radio, they kept calling AJ our #2 pitcher. I was really surprised. I'd been assuming Wang would be #2 and AJ #3. Obviously this will all sort itself out with time but just wondering--Who would you guys consider our #2 right now?

both Wang & AJB throw hard sinkers & both can notch it up to the high 90's... i don't think it really matters who gets the ball to follow CC to be honest... but i guess since Wang is more of a contact pitcher & AJB strikes guys out, i might separate the 2 w/Wang, but then Joba's also a strikeout pitcher who throws gas... if Andy signs i would definitely separate the 2 lefties w/Joba at the #5 slot tho... his innings might be on a careful watch being it's his first full ML season as a starter so i think that's the way i would go, at least in the regular season.

'tis good to have these kinds of problems.

It's great to have these problems. Once we address the #5 starter spot, we'll have a very good rotation that I'm excited about.

Wow...CC also got a $9.5 mil signing bonus! The guy got everything an FA could ever ask for.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Wow...CC also got a $9.5 mil signing bonus! The guy got everything an FA could ever ask for.

We paid by the pound. Let's hope the talent is just as worth it.

I think the Yankees might get manny....

but i was thinking if that happens, I'll never be able to go to a yankee game if he's a yank!

alot of people say i look like the dude.....cuz of the dreads plus i look spanish. I'll be a freakin rock star every time i show up to the stadium...."yo manny!"

Posted by EnySpree:


alot of people say i look like the dude.....cuz of the dreads plus i look spanish.

Spanish? Which one??

You know. I was thinking, Manny is' from NY. So do you's think he put up with a lot of shit for that reason, when he was in bastan?? I think he got tired of bastan-bastards giving him lip about it. He was instrumental in helping bastan win it's first W.S. in 86 years and was the MVP. He certainly hasn't done anything negative in L.A. right? So wouldn't it make sense to bring one of our own back to NY? I think Manny would be happy here, don't you's?

And Eny, you'll have to chop off those rasta braids, because that's what he'll have to do before he puts on the pins.

Posted by EnySpree:

I think the Yankees might get manny....

but i was thinking if that happens, I'll never be able to go to a yankee game if he's a yank!

alot of people say i look like the dude.....cuz of the dreads plus i look spanish. I'll be a freakin rock star every time i show up to the stadium...."yo manny!"

that's nothing bro, i get people yelling "Hey Wang!" at me when i go to the games & we don't even look anything alike... damn racist hatters!

Posted by TMS:

Posted by EnySpree:

I think the Yankees might get manny....

but i was thinking if that happens, I'll never be able to go to a yankee game if he's a yank!

alot of people say i look like the dude.....cuz of the dreads plus i look spanish. I'll be a freakin rock star every time i show up to the stadium...."yo manny!"

that's nothing bro, i get people yelling "Hey Wang!" at me when i go to the games & we don't even look anything alike... damn racist hatters!

Dude, they don't mean Chien Ming Wang, they meant Wang from Caddyshack.

Put a camera around your neck and you're a deadringer.

we can almost be twins.

I forgot all about that movie. Funny stuff!

Okay, Tex is on the radar and Manny is in the wings. Let's get them both on board and Pettitte would be silly not to come back! It's the only way to solve the rest of our problems! The Yankees will be on top once again! GO YANKEES!!!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12212008/spo...

Unless the Yanks are going to bid more than $20mil per yr, which they haven't, i don't see them as legit suitors. I still think RedSox are his top choice or else he would have already signed with the Nats or Orioles. Nats and orioles are offering ridiculous money.

Posted by jaydh:

Unless the Yanks are going to bid more than $20mil per yr, which they haven't, i don't see them as legit suitors. I still think RedSox are his top choice or else he would have already signed with the Nats or Orioles. Nats and orioles are offering ridiculous money.

This isn't the Knicks board, were most don't believe in anything. This is the Yankees board, were dreams do' come true. Did you read the article. The Yankees would be a wasting time if they didn't make a serous run at him. And Manny? He's waiting in the wings for the Yankees to make the move. He'll wait because he knows. He's going to want to go off on his old bitch team.

so sox owner says they are stepping away and will not change their bid.

now the angels have pulled their offer:

The Angels are out of the Mark Teixeira sweepstakes.

The team has withdrawn its offer to the free-agent slugger, according to a source close to the negotiations.

The Red Sox did not necessarily end their bid for Teixeira when owner John Henry said the team "is not going to be a factor" in the negotiations.

The Angels' decision, however, appears more final.

Keeping Teixeira, 28, was the Angels' top priority. The team now figures to explore other free-agent pursuits, including the possible signing of left-handed closer Brian Fuentes.

Without Teixeira, the Angels could install Kendry Morales at first base. Their other possible offensive targets include Manny Ramirez, Adam Dunn and Milton Bradley.

The Angels are believed to have offered Teixeria an eight-year deal in the range of $160 million. However, Teixeira wants to return east for family reasons, according to major-league sources.