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TMS @ 4/26/2009 8:05 PM
Posted by sebstar:Posted by djsunyc:Posted by sebstar:Posted by Bonn1997:
If they don't make any major moves, then they really need two out of Wang, Hughes, and Kennedy to be able to pitch at the major league level (i.e., about a 4.50 or less ERA) and to move Joba into the bullpen. Then if the starters could get through six, I'd feel confident with Bruney, Joba, and Rivera being the 7th, 8th, and 9th inning men (as long as Joba can return to his pre-2009 form, which I believe he can).
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-26-2009 09:40 AM]
Its kinda weak how the Yankees have become everything that their haters have accused them of. An unbalanced, overpaid group of mercenaries. The Yankees simply throw millions at every problem hoping for quick fixes.
posada, joba, cano, melky/gardner, jeter, pettitte, mariano, our entire bullpen is basically all homegrown. in fact, there are more homegrown players on this roster than any of the 96-00 yankee teams. what's happened is that we got lucky with the players in that era. winning a championship in baseball ain't easy dawg. the 96-00 yankees spoiled everybody but i remember the 82-94 yanks that didn't make the postseason. it ain't easy...people need to lower expectations b/c baseball is funny that way.
You're preaching to the choir about homegrown talent, but to be fair 50% of the names you just listed came up in the mid-90s. Out of the rest of them, Melky is barely an everyday player. So really there is only Cano and Joba to show for the Yankee farm system in the past 10 years.
And no matter how much we can rationalize it, when we are spending 100-80 million more than many of our closet competitors we should win. Bottom line. When the Yankees had their run we were spending competitively with teams like Baltimore and Boston. Now its just obscene. I bleed pinstripes, but damn if the Yanks dont need to reevaluate their model.
the Yankees won multiple championships using that model... '77 & '78 don't happen if they don't go out & sign the biggest FA names on the market, namely Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter... '99 & '00 may not have happened if they don't go out & trade for Roger Clemens... the Yankees are making money hand over foot w/their current business model & are the winningest team in the majors this decade... the only thing they've failed at is winning championships since '00, but they've managed to get to 2 more World Series since then & came within 2 outs of winning 1 of them & a single win from getting to another in '04... this offseason was universally hailed as a great one for the Yankees' franchise by fans & media alike... u can't start playing hindsight GM now & criticizing the Yankees' braintrust for making the moves they made... it's up to the players to go out & do it now, bottomline.
Bonn1997 @ 4/26/2009 8:26 PM
Posted by TMS:Posted by Bonn1997:
hmmmm. The only thing that's changed since the 96-00 era is that Cashman took over as the GM.
Cashman became the GM after the '97 season
But didn't have to rebuild the team for a few years, as he kept much of what inherited intact.
TMS @ 4/26/2009 8:44 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:Posted by TMS:Posted by Bonn1997:
hmmmm. The only thing that's changed since the 96-00 era is that Cashman took over as the GM.
Cashman became the GM after the '97 season
But didn't have to rebuild the team for a few years, as he kept much of what inherited intact.
let's not get into this argument again.
TMS @ 4/26/2009 8:45 PM
thank God Johnny Damon isn't playing LF tonight... that last fly ball out woulda been played into a bases clearing triple. 
TMS @ 4/26/2009 9:06 PM
sheesh, bring back Ransom... Berroa's horrible.
TMS @ 4/26/2009 10:01 PM
how the hell do u fall asleep w/a speedy runner on 3rd & a lefty batter up at the plate? ugh.
sebstar @ 4/26/2009 10:10 PM
Posted by TMS:Posted by sebstar:Posted by djsunyc:Posted by sebstar:Posted by Bonn1997:
If they don't make any major moves, then they really need two out of Wang, Hughes, and Kennedy to be able to pitch at the major league level (i.e., about a 4.50 or less ERA) and to move Joba into the bullpen. Then if the starters could get through six, I'd feel confident with Bruney, Joba, and Rivera being the 7th, 8th, and 9th inning men (as long as Joba can return to his pre-2009 form, which I believe he can).
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-26-2009 09:40 AM]
Its kinda weak how the Yankees have become everything that their haters have accused them of. An unbalanced, overpaid group of mercenaries. The Yankees simply throw millions at every problem hoping for quick fixes.
posada, joba, cano, melky/gardner, jeter, pettitte, mariano, our entire bullpen is basically all homegrown. in fact, there are more homegrown players on this roster than any of the 96-00 yankee teams. what's happened is that we got lucky with the players in that era. winning a championship in baseball ain't easy dawg. the 96-00 yankees spoiled everybody but i remember the 82-94 yanks that didn't make the postseason. it ain't easy...people need to lower expectations b/c baseball is funny that way.
You're preaching to the choir about homegrown talent, but to be fair 50% of the names you just listed came up in the mid-90s. Out of the rest of them, Melky is barely an everyday player. So really there is only Cano and Joba to show for the Yankee farm system in the past 10 years.
And no matter how much we can rationalize it, when we are spending 100-80 million more than many of our closet competitors we should win. Bottom line. When the Yankees had their run we were spending competitively with teams like Baltimore and Boston. Now its just obscene. I bleed pinstripes, but damn if the Yanks dont need to reevaluate their model.
the Yankees won multiple championships using that model... '77 & '78 don't happen if they don't go out & sign the biggest FA names on the market, namely Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter... '99 & '00 may not have happened if they don't go out & trade for Roger Clemens... the Yankees are making money hand over foot w/their current business model & are the winningest team in the majors this decade... the only thing they've failed at is winning championships since '00, but they've managed to get to 2 more World Series since then & came within 2 outs of winning 1 of them & a single win from getting to another in '04... this offseason was universally hailed as a great one for the Yankees' franchise by fans & media alike... u can't start playing hindsight GM now & criticizing the Yankees' braintrust for making the moves they made... it's up to the players to go out & do it now, bottomline.
In the 90's we added a free agent or two, usually carefully done with our roster and locker room in mind, to compliment the team. Since like 01 we've tried to put together an all star team, cherry picking the biggest names.
Boston is closer to our 90s model than we are. We're just bloated
GKFv2 @ 4/26/2009 10:18 PM
Posted by sebstar:Posted by TMS:Posted by sebstar:Posted by djsunyc:Posted by sebstar:Posted by Bonn1997:
If they don't make any major moves, then they really need two out of Wang, Hughes, and Kennedy to be able to pitch at the major league level (i.e., about a 4.50 or less ERA) and to move Joba into the bullpen. Then if the starters could get through six, I'd feel confident with Bruney, Joba, and Rivera being the 7th, 8th, and 9th inning men (as long as Joba can return to his pre-2009 form, which I believe he can).
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-26-2009 09:40 AM]
Its kinda weak how the Yankees have become everything that their haters have accused them of. An unbalanced, overpaid group of mercenaries. The Yankees simply throw millions at every problem hoping for quick fixes.
posada, joba, cano, melky/gardner, jeter, pettitte, mariano, our entire bullpen is basically all homegrown. in fact, there are more homegrown players on this roster than any of the 96-00 yankee teams. what's happened is that we got lucky with the players in that era. winning a championship in baseball ain't easy dawg. the 96-00 yankees spoiled everybody but i remember the 82-94 yanks that didn't make the postseason. it ain't easy...people need to lower expectations b/c baseball is funny that way.
You're preaching to the choir about homegrown talent, but to be fair 50% of the names you just listed came up in the mid-90s. Out of the rest of them, Melky is barely an everyday player. So really there is only Cano and Joba to show for the Yankee farm system in the past 10 years.
And no matter how much we can rationalize it, when we are spending 100-80 million more than many of our closet competitors we should win. Bottom line. When the Yankees had their run we were spending competitively with teams like Baltimore and Boston. Now its just obscene. I bleed pinstripes, but damn if the Yanks dont need to reevaluate their model.
the Yankees won multiple championships using that model... '77 & '78 don't happen if they don't go out & sign the biggest FA names on the market, namely Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter... '99 & '00 may not have happened if they don't go out & trade for Roger Clemens... the Yankees are making money hand over foot w/their current business model & are the winningest team in the majors this decade... the only thing they've failed at is winning championships since '00, but they've managed to get to 2 more World Series since then & came within 2 outs of winning 1 of them & a single win from getting to another in '04... this offseason was universally hailed as a great one for the Yankees' franchise by fans & media alike... u can't start playing hindsight GM now & criticizing the Yankees' braintrust for making the moves they made... it's up to the players to go out & do it now, bottomline.
In the 90's we added a free agent or two, usually carefully done with our roster and locker room in mind, to compliment the team. Since like 01 we've tried to put together an all star team, cherry picking the biggest names.
Boston is closer to our 90s model than we are. We're just bloated
I agree with everything you just said. It sums up the Yankees for most of this decade.
Bonn1997 @ 4/26/2009 10:25 PM
Posted by GKFv2:Posted by sebstar:Posted by TMS:It's the combination of thinking all you need to do is get star players AND thinking getting important role players is unnecessary or maybe just too much work that's hurt the team. I have no problem with guys like Tex and Damon and AJ but we shouldn't be using guys like Berroa/Ransom, Gardner (not every day at least), all bullpen minus Rivera like we are using them. I think Cashman thought his job was complete once he signed the big names last off-season.Posted by sebstar:Posted by djsunyc:Posted by sebstar:Posted by Bonn1997:
If they don't make any major moves, then they really need two out of Wang, Hughes, and Kennedy to be able to pitch at the major league level (i.e., about a 4.50 or less ERA) and to move Joba into the bullpen. Then if the starters could get through six, I'd feel confident with Bruney, Joba, and Rivera being the 7th, 8th, and 9th inning men (as long as Joba can return to his pre-2009 form, which I believe he can).
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-26-2009 09:40 AM]
Its kinda weak how the Yankees have become everything that their haters have accused them of. An unbalanced, overpaid group of mercenaries. The Yankees simply throw millions at every problem hoping for quick fixes.
posada, joba, cano, melky/gardner, jeter, pettitte, mariano, our entire bullpen is basically all homegrown. in fact, there are more homegrown players on this roster than any of the 96-00 yankee teams. what's happened is that we got lucky with the players in that era. winning a championship in baseball ain't easy dawg. the 96-00 yankees spoiled everybody but i remember the 82-94 yanks that didn't make the postseason. it ain't easy...people need to lower expectations b/c baseball is funny that way.
You're preaching to the choir about homegrown talent, but to be fair 50% of the names you just listed came up in the mid-90s. Out of the rest of them, Melky is barely an everyday player. So really there is only Cano and Joba to show for the Yankee farm system in the past 10 years.
And no matter how much we can rationalize it, when we are spending 100-80 million more than many of our closet competitors we should win. Bottom line. When the Yankees had their run we were spending competitively with teams like Baltimore and Boston. Now its just obscene. I bleed pinstripes, but damn if the Yanks dont need to reevaluate their model.
the Yankees won multiple championships using that model... '77 & '78 don't happen if they don't go out & sign the biggest FA names on the market, namely Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter... '99 & '00 may not have happened if they don't go out & trade for Roger Clemens... the Yankees are making money hand over foot w/their current business model & are the winningest team in the majors this decade... the only thing they've failed at is winning championships since '00, but they've managed to get to 2 more World Series since then & came within 2 outs of winning 1 of them & a single win from getting to another in '04... this offseason was universally hailed as a great one for the Yankees' franchise by fans & media alike... u can't start playing hindsight GM now & criticizing the Yankees' braintrust for making the moves they made... it's up to the players to go out & do it now, bottomline.
In the 90's we added a free agent or two, usually carefully done with our roster and locker room in mind, to compliment the team. Since like 01 we've tried to put together an all star team, cherry picking the biggest names.
Boston is closer to our 90s model than we are. We're just bloated
I agree with everything you just said. It sums up the Yankees for most of this decade.
TMS @ 4/26/2009 10:28 PM
Posted by GKFv2:Posted by sebstar:Posted by TMS:Posted by sebstar:Posted by djsunyc:Posted by sebstar:Posted by Bonn1997:
If they don't make any major moves, then they really need two out of Wang, Hughes, and Kennedy to be able to pitch at the major league level (i.e., about a 4.50 or less ERA) and to move Joba into the bullpen. Then if the starters could get through six, I'd feel confident with Bruney, Joba, and Rivera being the 7th, 8th, and 9th inning men (as long as Joba can return to his pre-2009 form, which I believe he can).
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-26-2009 09:40 AM]
Its kinda weak how the Yankees have become everything that their haters have accused them of. An unbalanced, overpaid group of mercenaries. The Yankees simply throw millions at every problem hoping for quick fixes.
posada, joba, cano, melky/gardner, jeter, pettitte, mariano, our entire bullpen is basically all homegrown. in fact, there are more homegrown players on this roster than any of the 96-00 yankee teams. what's happened is that we got lucky with the players in that era. winning a championship in baseball ain't easy dawg. the 96-00 yankees spoiled everybody but i remember the 82-94 yanks that didn't make the postseason. it ain't easy...people need to lower expectations b/c baseball is funny that way.
You're preaching to the choir about homegrown talent, but to be fair 50% of the names you just listed came up in the mid-90s. Out of the rest of them, Melky is barely an everyday player. So really there is only Cano and Joba to show for the Yankee farm system in the past 10 years.
And no matter how much we can rationalize it, when we are spending 100-80 million more than many of our closet competitors we should win. Bottom line. When the Yankees had their run we were spending competitively with teams like Baltimore and Boston. Now its just obscene. I bleed pinstripes, but damn if the Yanks dont need to reevaluate their model.
the Yankees won multiple championships using that model... '77 & '78 don't happen if they don't go out & sign the biggest FA names on the market, namely Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter... '99 & '00 may not have happened if they don't go out & trade for Roger Clemens... the Yankees are making money hand over foot w/their current business model & are the winningest team in the majors this decade... the only thing they've failed at is winning championships since '00, but they've managed to get to 2 more World Series since then & came within 2 outs of winning 1 of them & a single win from getting to another in '04... this offseason was universally hailed as a great one for the Yankees' franchise by fans & media alike... u can't start playing hindsight GM now & criticizing the Yankees' braintrust for making the moves they made... it's up to the players to go out & do it now, bottomline.
In the 90's we added a free agent or two, usually carefully done with our roster and locker room in mind, to compliment the team. Since like 01 we've tried to put together an all star team, cherry picking the biggest names.
Boston is closer to our 90s model than we are. We're just bloated
I agree with everything you just said. It sums up the Yankees for most of this decade.
i didn't hear many complaints when Cashman was putting this team together over the offseason.
TMS @ 4/26/2009 10:40 PM
this team is sleepwalking through this game... bust out the broomsticks you Boston retards, u win this round. 
VDesai @ 4/26/2009 11:06 PM
Really impressive composure by Melancon to get out of the bases loaded, 0 out jam he pitched into without giving up any runs.
VDesai @ 4/26/2009 11:09 PM
I'm a little shocked they are using Saito and not Papelbon to get the save.
GKFv2 @ 4/26/2009 11:10 PM
Posted by TMS:Posted by GKFv2:Posted by sebstar:Posted by TMS:Posted by sebstar:Posted by djsunyc:Posted by sebstar:Posted by Bonn1997:
If they don't make any major moves, then they really need two out of Wang, Hughes, and Kennedy to be able to pitch at the major league level (i.e., about a 4.50 or less ERA) and to move Joba into the bullpen. Then if the starters could get through six, I'd feel confident with Bruney, Joba, and Rivera being the 7th, 8th, and 9th inning men (as long as Joba can return to his pre-2009 form, which I believe he can).
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-26-2009 09:40 AM]
Its kinda weak how the Yankees have become everything that their haters have accused them of. An unbalanced, overpaid group of mercenaries. The Yankees simply throw millions at every problem hoping for quick fixes.
posada, joba, cano, melky/gardner, jeter, pettitte, mariano, our entire bullpen is basically all homegrown. in fact, there are more homegrown players on this roster than any of the 96-00 yankee teams. what's happened is that we got lucky with the players in that era. winning a championship in baseball ain't easy dawg. the 96-00 yankees spoiled everybody but i remember the 82-94 yanks that didn't make the postseason. it ain't easy...people need to lower expectations b/c baseball is funny that way.
You're preaching to the choir about homegrown talent, but to be fair 50% of the names you just listed came up in the mid-90s. Out of the rest of them, Melky is barely an everyday player. So really there is only Cano and Joba to show for the Yankee farm system in the past 10 years.
And no matter how much we can rationalize it, when we are spending 100-80 million more than many of our closet competitors we should win. Bottom line. When the Yankees had their run we were spending competitively with teams like Baltimore and Boston. Now its just obscene. I bleed pinstripes, but damn if the Yanks dont need to reevaluate their model.
the Yankees won multiple championships using that model... '77 & '78 don't happen if they don't go out & sign the biggest FA names on the market, namely Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter... '99 & '00 may not have happened if they don't go out & trade for Roger Clemens... the Yankees are making money hand over foot w/their current business model & are the winningest team in the majors this decade... the only thing they've failed at is winning championships since '00, but they've managed to get to 2 more World Series since then & came within 2 outs of winning 1 of them & a single win from getting to another in '04... this offseason was universally hailed as a great one for the Yankees' franchise by fans & media alike... u can't start playing hindsight GM now & criticizing the Yankees' braintrust for making the moves they made... it's up to the players to go out & do it now, bottomline.
In the 90's we added a free agent or two, usually carefully done with our roster and locker room in mind, to compliment the team. Since like 01 we've tried to put together an all star team, cherry picking the biggest names.
Boston is closer to our 90s model than we are. We're just bloated
I agree with everything you just said. It sums up the Yankees for most of this decade.
i didn't hear many complaints when Cashman was putting this team together over the offseason.
I was short-sighted. Throwing large amounts of money to 1 or 2 players is not the answer. The Yankees need to hark back to their 90's days and build an actual team and not 5 or 6 superstars with a bunch of mediocre-crap players. I have now seen the wrongdoings of the franchise. Buying superstars is not going to win you a World Series. Building a team, with a strong pen and starting pitching and a balanced lineup, is the key to winning a World Series. I don't think the Yankees have that here and I don't know how they will accomplish creating that team this season. I hope I'm wrong and this team comes together but I just see lots of flashes of last year's disappointing season.
djsunyc @ 4/26/2009 11:22 PM
lol - it's APRIL.
it's clear that the redsox now have the mental advantage in the rivalry...but that doesn't mean we can't win the world series.
it's clear that the redsox now have the mental advantage in the rivalry...but that doesn't mean we can't win the world series.
djsunyc @ 4/26/2009 11:29 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
I was short-sighted. Throwing large amounts of money to 1 or 2 players is not the answer. The Yankees need to hark back to their 90's days and build an actual team and not 5 or 6 superstars with a bunch of mediocre-crap players. I have now seen the wrongdoings of the franchise. Buying superstars is not going to win you a World Series. Building a team, with a strong pen and starting pitching and a balanced lineup, is the key to winning a World Series. I don't think the Yankees have that here and I don't know how they will accomplish creating that team this season. I hope I'm wrong and this team comes together but I just see lots of flashes of last year's disappointing season.
mariano blew it friday. if we win the game on friday, it could've changed the entire weekend. is the blown mariano save what's given you clarity of the wrong doings of the franchise?
GKFv2 @ 4/26/2009 11:32 PM
Posted by djsunyc:Posted by GKFv2:
I was short-sighted. Throwing large amounts of money to 1 or 2 players is not the answer. The Yankees need to hark back to their 90's days and build an actual team and not 5 or 6 superstars with a bunch of mediocre-crap players. I have now seen the wrongdoings of the franchise. Buying superstars is not going to win you a World Series. Building a team, with a strong pen and starting pitching and a balanced lineup, is the key to winning a World Series. I don't think the Yankees have that here and I don't know how they will accomplish creating that team this season. I hope I'm wrong and this team comes together but I just see lots of flashes of last year's disappointing season.
mariano blew it friday. if we win the game on friday, it could've changed the entire weekend. is the blown mariano save what's given you clarity of the wrong doings of the franchise?
No it's the season so far and the fact they've given up 10+ runs, what, like 5 times already? Probably more because I am too lazy to go look at the stats. Just this series alone we gave up 10 and 16 runs respectively. Against the Rays was another 15 runs, 22 runs against the Indians. Who else? Mariano blows saves in April. We know that. But if you are watching the games and seeing a complete team on the field then I'm not sure you're watching the same game.
TMS @ 4/27/2009 12:05 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
lol - it's APRIL.
it's clear that the redsox now have the mental advantage in the rivalry...but that doesn't mean we can't win the world series.
i don't like the way this team's been playing this year... they remind me of the listless group that we watched last year... way too many mental errors, no clutch hitting, shaky relief pitching, inconsistent starting pitching, injuries to key players... i know it's early in the season but every game counts & we'll be looking at each of these losses later in the season when they're all fighting for playoff positioning... the Blue Jays are off to a hot start & who knows, they could be this year's Rays... there are surprise teams every year in baseball... just cuz we have the best team on paper doesn't mean these guys are gonna waltz into the playoffs much less the World Series.
djsunyc @ 4/27/2009 12:08 AM
i think we're seeing some jitters from cc.
i also think an offense w/o arod is substantially worse.
i also think our young arms in the pen are a little overwhelmed.
cc will settle down.
arod will come back and beast.
and i have faith in our pen.
i think we'll be alright. baseball is a crazy game where nothing is guaranteed. i really don't care about payroll or anything like that. it's about hitting in key spots and pitching. there is no way in telling how a player can perform under those conditions in ny. that's why *luck* plays alot in how a player responds. it's a long season. we're 9-9. we've had some bad losses but i'm not worried. we will be fine. it's a marathon.
now excuse me as i have to go eat dinner and then kill them at the blackjack tables here in vegas...
[Edited by - djsunyc on 04-27-2009 12:13 AM]
i also think an offense w/o arod is substantially worse.
i also think our young arms in the pen are a little overwhelmed.
cc will settle down.
arod will come back and beast.
and i have faith in our pen.
i think we'll be alright. baseball is a crazy game where nothing is guaranteed. i really don't care about payroll or anything like that. it's about hitting in key spots and pitching. there is no way in telling how a player can perform under those conditions in ny. that's why *luck* plays alot in how a player responds. it's a long season. we're 9-9. we've had some bad losses but i'm not worried. we will be fine. it's a marathon.
now excuse me as i have to go eat dinner and then kill them at the blackjack tables here in vegas...
[Edited by - djsunyc on 04-27-2009 12:13 AM]
TMS @ 4/27/2009 12:48 AM
dj, that's exactly how i felt last year when this team was struggling early in the season... they didn't get it done & they had ARod healthy for most of the season... so far Mark Teix hasn't done squat, & while i'm sure he'll come around w/his production, u can't count on how ARod will perform coming back from surgery... he may still need more surgery after the season's over cuz this was not a complete hip restructure surgery he underwent, it was more of an intermediate procedure that was done so he wouldn't have to miss most of the season.
the only players i've been very encouraged by this season so far have been Cano, Andy, AJB (i'll give him a pass for the last game) & Bruney... Melky's hit some dingers but he's still swinging wildly & is a horrible situational hitter, & Brett Gardner has severely disappointed me so far this season w/his weak hacks at the plate... & Cody Ransom looks way overmatched at the plate, Berroa's horrible & Pena is a late inning defensive replacement at best.
& who knows what we'll get out of Matsui the rest of this year... he's had some flashes of his old form but for the most part he's still pulling way off the ball & grounding out a lot to 2B... Jeter & Jorge have been solid but neither of them can carry a team... Damon's defense has been a joke, he's a DH at best at this point... IMO we should probably look to trade Matsui & prospects for an upgrade in CF, cuz Austin Jackson's gonna need another year or 2 at the very least before he's ready for the majors, & prospects are never a sure thing anyway... & i would call up Hughes & Kennedy & give them a look to see if they can be viable options in our rotation... if they prove they can get the job done, u can put Joba back in the bullpen where he belongs & we'll have that nasty 1-2 punch that will strike fear into teams... otherwise if we're not gonna give those kids a shot we mine as well trade them for a starter that CAN get the job done... Aceves is not a longterm solution for us in the starting rotation & should only be used in emergency duty or long relief IMO.
the only players i've been very encouraged by this season so far have been Cano, Andy, AJB (i'll give him a pass for the last game) & Bruney... Melky's hit some dingers but he's still swinging wildly & is a horrible situational hitter, & Brett Gardner has severely disappointed me so far this season w/his weak hacks at the plate... & Cody Ransom looks way overmatched at the plate, Berroa's horrible & Pena is a late inning defensive replacement at best.
& who knows what we'll get out of Matsui the rest of this year... he's had some flashes of his old form but for the most part he's still pulling way off the ball & grounding out a lot to 2B... Jeter & Jorge have been solid but neither of them can carry a team... Damon's defense has been a joke, he's a DH at best at this point... IMO we should probably look to trade Matsui & prospects for an upgrade in CF, cuz Austin Jackson's gonna need another year or 2 at the very least before he's ready for the majors, & prospects are never a sure thing anyway... & i would call up Hughes & Kennedy & give them a look to see if they can be viable options in our rotation... if they prove they can get the job done, u can put Joba back in the bullpen where he belongs & we'll have that nasty 1-2 punch that will strike fear into teams... otherwise if we're not gonna give those kids a shot we mine as well trade them for a starter that CAN get the job done... Aceves is not a longterm solution for us in the starting rotation & should only be used in emergency duty or long relief IMO.
VDesai @ 4/27/2009 12:53 AM
I'm not really that worried either. I think our lineup will start hitting its stride with ARod back. Teixiera hasn't really found his stroke yet. The guys around him are starting to hit though- even Matsui has gotten back to his old form.
The pitching needs to settle down. Ultimately guys like Sabathia and Burnett have to perform. Its not a failure of scouting to bring these guys in. We know they can pitch. Once they take control of the top of the rotation we'll be ok. Andy is Andy so far- he's not gonna be great every night but he keeps you in games and gives you innings. Joba's control has failed him lately and he seems to still be rounding into game shape. Hopefully Hughes or Kennedy comes up and give them a boost. Its overdue.
The pitching needs to settle down. Ultimately guys like Sabathia and Burnett have to perform. Its not a failure of scouting to bring these guys in. We know they can pitch. Once they take control of the top of the rotation we'll be ok. Andy is Andy so far- he's not gonna be great every night but he keeps you in games and gives you innings. Joba's control has failed him lately and he seems to still be rounding into game shape. Hopefully Hughes or Kennedy comes up and give them a boost. Its overdue.
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