I think he's just recovering right now. He had no spring training. If he lost something he wouldn't have come out the gate hitting 6 or 7 homers in his first 10 games. Right now I think he's suffering from some fatigue as he basically hasn't missed a game since he came back from his injury, which he came back from fairly quickly in spite of its seriousness. His batting eye and power are still there.
alex even commented late last week that he felt like he was just at the end of his spring training b/c of the time recovery took from him. so, i think vdesai is right and that arod will be back on track soon enough. i would give it till at least mid july to see where he's at. if still slumping at that point, then maybe cause for some concern. not right now though.
ARod's struggles don't concern me... the fact that these no name pitchers keep dominating us is what concerns me... seems to be a failure of scouting reports or just a bad approach by our hitters vs. pitchers they haven't seen before.
Posted by TMS:
ARod's struggles don't concern me... the fact that these no name pitchers keep dominating us is what concerns me... seems to be a failure of scouting reports or just a bad approach by our hitters vs. pitchers they haven't seen before.
This has been going on for years. We have a way of making pitchers we haven't faced before look like Cy Young candidates.
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by TMS:
ARod's struggles don't concern me... the fact that these no name pitchers keep dominating us is what concerns me... seems to be a failure of scouting reports or just a bad approach by our hitters vs. pitchers they haven't seen before.
This has been going on for years. We have a way of making pitchers we haven't faced before look like Cy Young candidates.
i agree, i made that observation a long time ago.
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by TMS:
ARod's struggles don't concern me... the fact that these no name pitchers keep dominating us is what concerns me... seems to be a failure of scouting reports or just a bad approach by our hitters vs. pitchers they haven't seen before.
This has been going on for years. We have a way of making pitchers we haven't faced before look like Cy Young candidates.
i agree, i made that observation a long time ago.
Girardi just said on Francesa that the Yankees are 10-6 this year against pitchers they haven't seen before.
we've been having problems hitting no name average pitching all year... regardless of what the W-L record says if you've been watching this team over the past few years i think you would have to agree... a stat like that can be skewed by come back wins in the late innings... this team has done a good job of coming back vs. late relief this season.
Posted by TMS:
we've been having problems hitting no name average pitching all year... regardless of what the W-L record says if you've been watching this team over the past few years i think you would have to agree... a stat like that can be skewed by come back wins in the late innings... this team has done a good job of coming back vs. late relief this season.
I'm not disagreeing, just throwing it out there. I think my position on how the Yankees have "built" this time is widely known. I'm not in favor of the 25+ HR in every slot of the order - you don't win that way. Same goes for the pitching and having Joba in the starting rotation. This team has been setup to fail.
Since when are HR a bad thing? We have lots of guys capable of hitting a good number of HR but we don't have any players who *solely* hit HR. They're all versatile hitters. This and the 1998 team are the best Yankee offenses of my lifetime IMO. It's too early to tell which is better, although the OPS #s favor the current one.
The pitching is another story.
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 06-19-2009 11:40 PM]
Posted by Bonn1997:
Since when are HR a bad thing? We have lots of guys capable of hitting a good number of HR but we don't have any players who *solely* hit HR. They're all versatile hitters. This and the 1998 team are the best Yankee offenses of my lifetime IMO. It's too early to tell which is better, although the OPS #s favor the current one.
The pitching is another story.
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 06-19-2009 11:40 PM]
I disagree. The quality of pitching in the postseason is significantly greater than the regular season, when it is far, far easier to hit a home run. In October, the guys who tend to get hits are righties than have the talent to sit back and slap a fastball to right field or the lefties that can drop balls into soft defensive areas, in the seventh to ninth inning down a run with two outs and a man on second. The guys whose job it is is to shoot doubles up the gap or over the wall tend not to excel in those situations.
High OPS and OBP players almost assure a team will be in contention for a postseason berth... but I don't like a doubles/home run hitter/draw-a-walk player chances against KRod when the team needs a single.
In my opinion it has more to do with strategy than the actual ability of a player. If you can consistently hit for power you should be the best player on the team. And that's really my problem with the Yankees, I feel like there are way to many chiefs and not enough Indians
[Edited by - supremecommander on 06-21-2009 11:20 AM]
Jeter is done as a clutch hitter. Every big AB he now grounds to the SS, I'm getting SICK of it.
Cano's been horrible of late too in clutch situations... i think this is the 3rd time in like 5 games he's GIDP to end a game.
Posted by nyk4ever:
Jeter is done as a clutch hitter. Every big AB he now grounds to the SS, I'm getting SICK of it.
Yep. The time of big play Jeter is over.
BTW, genius decision to remove Aceves for fucking Brett Tomko. Genius! Send that jackass down ASAP.
4-8 in the last 12. This has been a really rough stretch. It's not good that we had to go deep into the bullpen yesterday since Wang and Chamberlain are our next two pitchers.
what are your (everybody's) thoughts on girardi?
[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-22-2009 2:10 PM]
Girardi's all right. I can't disagree with any of the major decisions he's had to make. The problems have nothing to do with him. I never thought there was any reason to get rid of Torre, though (or technically to give him a 1 year offer with a paycut that no one intended to take seriously). Torre was just the scapegoat for a team that was poorly constructed.
Posted by Bonn1997:
Torre was just the scapegoat for a team that was poorly constructed.
i agree with that in the nuts and bolts sense. but torre felt he was integral in the winning which is why he was getting $5 mil a year. so if you ask for that salary, and if you read his book, it was all about how he kept the clubhouse together in having the team win, then you probably are putting yourself in a position to taking the blame.
I don't think Girardi has done a particularly good or bad job. He's made some head scratching decisions, but at the same time I don't think alot of the vets on this team are in love with him and that's a huge part to the job. I think the bigger problem is how this team is put together.
I hear a lotta peeps complaining about how this team is put together, where were all these complaints at the beginning of the season when everyone was raving about the offseason acquisitions we'd made? i don't get it... back then people were talking about how we had the "best bullpen in baseball", how our starting pitching was probably the best in the majors, how our lineup was stacked & would probably put up record numbers this year... u can't pin the blame on how the team is constructed whenever things don't pan out quite the way people thought they would & some key players go down to injuries during the course of the season... no one has a crystal ball to predict injuries or bigname players not performing up to their abilities.
as for the managerial criticisms, i think Torre made some horrible managerial decisions that potentially cost us at least 2 championships over his tenure, so he's the last guy to absolve of blame... having the IF playing in w/a man on 1st & 3rd & 1 out w/Mo on the mound vs. Arizona in game 7 of the '01 WS cost us that series w/o a doubt... if he'd have had them at DP depth that bloop shot by Luis Gonzalez is a potential douple play that ends the inning w/the score tied... having Jeff Weaver on the postseason staff could have cost us game 4 in '03 when he gave up the game winning hit to Alex Gonzalez... he should never have been on the WS pitching staff to begin with.
so far Girardi hasn't done anything to impress me as manager of this team... his handling of Phil Hughes has been badly planned out IMO... he rushed ARod back before he was obviously ready because he was desperate to win games... it spurred the Yankees to a winning streak but they should never have been in the position to rush him back in the first place w/the team he had to work with... he hasn't done a bad job but he's far from getting any praise from me so far.
i think the yanks are fine. i think the pitching is top notch, including the BBPB (best bullpen in baseball). the only minor concern i have is the lineup but even that's gonna be fine.
just need to get over the mental hurdle vs. the redsox and hope arod gets healthy.
Posted by TMS:
I hear a lotta peeps complaining about how this team is put together, where were all these complaints at the beginning of the season when everyone was raving about the offseason acquisitions we'd made? i don't get it... back then people were talking about how we had the "best bullpen in baseball", how our starting pitching was probably the best in the majors, how our lineup was stacked & would probably put up record numbers this year... u can't pin the blame on how the team is constructed whenever things don't pan out quite the way people thought they would & some key players go down to injuries during the course of the season... no one has a crystal ball to predict injuries or bigname players not performing up to their abilities.
as for the managerial criticisms, i think Torre made some horrible managerial decisions that potentially cost us at least 2 championships over his tenure, so he's the last guy to absolve of blame... having the IF playing in w/a man on 1st & 3rd & 1 out w/Mo on the mound vs. Arizona in game 7 of the '01 WS cost us that series w/o a doubt... if he'd have had them at DP depth that bloop shot by Luis Gonzalez is a potential douple play that ends the inning w/the score tied... having Jeff Weaver on the postseason staff could have cost us game 4 in '03 when he gave up the game winning hit to Alex Gonzalez... he should never have been on the WS pitching staff to begin with.
so far Girardi hasn't done anything to impress me as manager of this team... his handling of Phil Hughes has been badly planned out IMO... he rushed ARod back before he was obviously ready because he was desperate to win games... it spurred the Yankees to a winning streak but they should never have been in the position to rush him back in the first place w/the team he had to work with... he hasn't done a bad job but he's far from getting any praise from me so far.
I didn't rave once about our offseason acquisitions and infact I spent most of the offseason arguing that we shouldn't be signing every free-agent and instead should be looking to build through our own farm-system and making some trades. The only FA signing I was fully onboard with was the CC signing.
