Off Topic · Chink in the Armor..... (page 1)

Wake up to see two examples of perhaps bad taste.

On was graphic and one was in the context of a question.

Are both offensive?

How dumb could you be? How could you believe that this would be a good idea as a headline.

I mean for ESPN not you Nalod

Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

Truthfully that would make more sense as I find it hard to believe that someone would be that stupid. It makes more sense that it was unintentional, but at the same time how do you not correlate the 2 when putting up the headline? If your in the media you damn sure should know what the term chink means and you should be aware Lin's ethnicity especially if you are ESPN the world wide leader in sports.

Isn't there someone who overseas this type of stuff to maybe say that its a bad idea?

having digesting the byline and the video, to me at least the byline was "Stupid".

The video in the context of a conversation or question is not offensive as "Chink in the Armor" in reference to ones "weakness in his game".

Are we being oversensitive and/or looking for moral erections when such things are said?

Was the late nite moderator in the graphic text innocently using a term or being cute?

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

In their "right mind" are the key words here. No way this is racially based but of course everyone is going to lose their damn minds over it. Bet Lin isn't upset over it.

What I'd like to know is how many people were involved with putting that graphic on the air? The more people knew about it in advance, the less chance there is that it was unintentional.

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I usually dont scream racism everytime I see something like this, guess I have long since accepted that most people have inherent racial biases and sometimes those biases will express themselves. But we are talking about a news vendor that "sells" headlines to make a living. Coming from them this is completely unacceptable. One person may put this up unknowingly but the headline would have had to pass editorial scrutiny - that's what makes it amazing.

The article also said the same guy had been cautioned for the same headline before when US basketball team played China.

I am happy Lin doesn't seem to affected by it. The world is full of narrow minded people who will dog his every step to find fault with him and ridicule him. Its the price of succeeding on the biggest stage in the world. He will have to learn to deal with it.

Lazy and stupid of everyone including the anchor man. I don't know his name and am too hungover to even look it up. Anyway, what makes this offensive is that ESPN should KNOW that there are better phrases (In this case) to state that Lin has weaknesses in his game. Why did they decide to choose this one as opposed to the trillion other ways to say it? Pretty careless but at the same time, I don't think they are that ignorant of the situation so I think they were purposefully trying to stir up trouble for some reason. Dumb and inexcusable either way.

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

It stayed up for only 35 minutes.

Perhaps when bought to attention (the more that looked at it the more thought.......) it got taken down.

Could it be that it was both insensitive and innocent at the same time?

By that, a younger generation (figure at the night desk) who grew up with Yao Ming as an allstar player and not as effected by racial stereotypes not thinking "chink in the armor" was at all offensive? If so, isn't that progress?

On the other hand we recently had a guy offended thinking it was offensive to Asian ancestry that the "germans bombed pearl harbor"!

Do we look for racial differences to enhance our own moral standing?

If he was Greek and we said "turnovers are his Achilles heel" would that be offensive? (I understand the "C" word is far worse)

Or if he was Jewish, and his turnovers are down, "LinBergs stingy turning over the ball now!" an offensive statement?

Now if it was "LinBergs stingy like a KIKE with the ball these days" is a direct use of a bad word that only has one meaning.

Just conversing here fellas. Im not Asian nor my does my moral compass needing any validation. Talking points for a saturday morning.

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

In ESPN's defense "Chink" is a real word.

Chink
- a crack, cleft, or fissure: a chink in a wall.

- a narrow opening: a chink between two buildings.

Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/c...

Still insensitive but I don't think it was intentional.

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

you wouldn't care? let me ask you something, are you black?

AnubisADL wrote:Still insensitive but I don't think it was intentional.

What makes you think that AnubisADL?

Headlines writers make good money to get it right.

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

you wouldn't care? let me ask you something, are you black?

Why, if Im not black then my opinion about what is offensive or not doesnt matter? If Im a white guy, then somehow I just cant know about what is an appropriate use of a word or not?

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

you wouldn't care? let me ask you something, are you black?

Why, if Im not black then my opinion about what is offensive or not doesnt matter? If Im a white guy, then somehow I just cant know about what is an appropriate use of a word or not?

ok i think you answered my question.

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

izybx wrote:Another example of how a big segment of our society is so easily offended. Noone in their right mind believes that the use of "chink in the armor" was intentionally meant to be a play on Jlin's race. We are getting to the point now where even something like this will get people fired. Very sad in my opinion.

I want to enlighten you on something: the "C" word to asian americans is just as bad the "N" word to african americans. yes "Chink in the armor" is an expression that aludes to a flaw or weakness but to have that as a headline connected to an asian athlete is just stupid.

i don't think people are that stupid though.

I understand the duel meaning of the word. I just doubt that it was intended to be a play on both meanings in this context. Someone will probably get fired over this, and I think its a sad reflection on our society. We arent too far off from England, where saying something offensive is a criminal offense. In America the "speech police" are so aggressive that even something as innocent as this garnishes national attention, and even the most tolerant of us decry it as "stupid". I had a guy get mad at me once for calling him "bro". Im just tired of this sort of self policing.

i still don't think you understand. do you think we still would be overreacting if the headline was "niggardly defense wins game for team". niggardly which by definition means stingy or miserly. you would NEVER see that headline NEVER.

Yes I understand. And if someone said niggardly in that context I wouldnt care either. Im not someone who walks around looking for reasons to get offended. Thats something in our culture that sucks, people always trying to call someone else racist. Its one of the reasons why I cant follow politics anymore. This hand wringing over what is clearly an unintentional use of a word is annoying and immature.

you wouldn't care? let me ask you something, are you black?

Why, if Im not black then my opinion about what is offensive or not doesnt matter? If Im a white guy, then somehow I just cant know about what is an appropriate use of a word or not?

ok i think you answered my question.

Are you black? No. So what makes you think that youre opinion about what is offensive to blacks is better than mine?

no i'm not black but i'm a minority whose experienced racism and i don't pretend to be the authority on what should be considered offensive—kinda like what you're doing.