Here is a list of the free agents that signed this summer and their approximate first year salaries.
anyone cares to elaborate on what they see?
Austin Daye to Raptors....for......$950,000
Alan Andersen to Brooklyn....for....$950,000
Byron Mullens to Clippers....for....$950,000
Wesley Johnson to Lakers....for....$950,000
D.J. Augustin to Raptors....for.....$1.025mil
Omri Casspi to Rockets...for....$1.025mil
Reggie Williams to Rockets....$1.025mil
D.J. White to Brooklyn....for....$1.025mil
Anthony Murrow to Pelican...for....$1.185mil
Jordan Farmar to Lakers.....for....$1.185mil
Nick Young to Lakers....for $1.185mil
Ryan Hollins to Clippers....for....$1.185mil
Francisco Garcia to Rockets....for.....$1.265mil
Shaun Livingston to Brooklyn....for....$1.265mil
Andray Blatche to Brooklyn...for....$1.4mil
DeJuan Blair to Mavs....for....$1.4mil
Derrick Fisher to Thunder....for....$1.4mil
Earl Watson to Portland...for....$1.4mil
John Lucas to Utah...for....$1.6mil
Ronnie Turiaf to Wolves...for...$1.6mil
Toney Douglas to Warriors....for.....$1.6mil
Jermaine O'Neal to Warriors....for....$1.9mil
Nate Robsinson to Denver...for....$1.9mil
Darren Collison to Clippers....for....$1.9mil
C.J. Watson to Pacers....for....$2.015mil
Eric Maynor to Wizads...for....$2.015mil
C.J. Miles to Cavs....for....$2.225mil
Chris Kaman to Lakers...for....$2.5mil
Tyler Hansbrough to Raptors....for....$2.5mil
Chauncy Billups to Pistons...for....$2.5mil
Will Bynum to Pistons....for.....$2.5mil
Demarre Carroll to Hawks....for.....$2.5mil
Josh Roberts to Bobcats....for....$2.625mil
Wayne Ellington to Mavs....for...$2.625mil
Greg Steisma to Pelicans....for.....$2.625mil
Chris Copeland to Pacers....for....$2.9mil
Dorell Wright to Thunder....for....$2.9mil
Marco Belinelli to Spurs....for....$2.9mil
Mike Dunleavy to Bulls....for.....$2.9mil
Randy Foye to Denver....for....$2.9mil
Devin Harris to Mavs...for....$2.9mil then $1.3mil
Andre Kirilenko to Brooklyn....for.....$3.183mil
Gary Neal to Bucks....for....$3.5mil
Mareese Speights to Warriors...for....$3.75mil
Samuel Dalembert to Mavs....for.....$3.75mil
Elton Brand to Hawks.....for.....$4mil
nobody's signing for alot of $$?
nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?), Millsap (around $9 mil?). I'm sure there's more
Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?). I'm sure there's more
exactly and there is a reason why this doesn't include them....
Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?), Millsap (around $9 mil?). I'm sure there's more
Kenyon, Pablo and JR were missing from the list as well.
tkf wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?). I'm sure there's more
exactly and there is a reason why this doesn't include them....
What, you're just listing players we missed out on?
tkf wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?). I'm sure there's more
exactly and there is a reason why this doesn't include them....
If the reason is because the Knicks started the offseason with 3.1 mil mmle and vet mini contracts then the bottom four guys should be off the list.
Bonn1997 wrote:tkf wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?). I'm sure there's more
exactly and there is a reason why this doesn't include them....
What, you're just listing players we missed out on?
You are always going to have a long list of missed guys if you only have 3.1 mmle to work with. That only gets you one or two players.
CrushAlot wrote:tkf wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?). I'm sure there's more
exactly and there is a reason why this doesn't include them....
If the reason is because the Knicks started the offseason with 3.1 mil mmle and vet mini contracts then the bottom four guys should be off the list.
no , not really because at the time we really tried to pursue these guys, we already made financial decisions..
and to address JR smith, he would be on this list, because he would be in a different cap slot.. his cap slot put him pretty much at the full MLE...
tkf wrote:CrushAlot wrote:tkf wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?). I'm sure there's more
exactly and there is a reason why this doesn't include them....
If the reason is because the Knicks started the offseason with 3.1 mil mmle and vet mini contracts then the bottom four guys should be off the list.
no , not really because at the time we really tried to pursue these guys, we already made financial decisions..
and to address JR smith, he would be on this list, because he would be in a different cap slot.. his cap slot put him pretty much at the full MLE...
So the guys on the bottom the Knicks didn't get because they wanted more money.
CrushAlot wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:tkf wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:nobody's signing for alot of $$?
No, he just didn't list them. Dwight Howard ($21 mil), Jennings (around $8 mil?). I'm sure there's more
exactly and there is a reason why this doesn't include them....
What, you're just listing players we missed out on?
You are always going to have a long list of missed guys if you only have 3.1 mmle to work with. That only gets you one or two players.
we knew a lot of these guys would be available before we started making financial decisions... we could have maximized this list, especially with our picks we traded, novak,etc...
for example we could gone after Dj augustine, Austin Daye,livingston, if you add up all of that salary, it is very close to the 3.1 mil, but here is the point, these are all vet min deals, and still would have had our TPMLE... that would have given us two PG's, and a stretch SF in Daye... and all of them are young, even livingston who is only 27.. he can also play a little SG...
Then we could have split that TPMLE on guys like Hollins, Wesley Johnson and Byron Mullens...
that would have given us two more bigs on this team, two PG's and two more shooters... of course given that we had the roster slots.
Pablo is making more than DJ Augustine. That's the main thing I see
gunsnewing wrote:Pablo is making more than DJ Augustine. That's the main thing I see
we had more options to actually fill our PG and Big man needs... with some players who may not only be better, but younger....
gunsnewing wrote:Pablo is making more than DJ Augustine. That's the main thing I see
I am probably in the minority but I like Pablo a lot better then Augustine. Not a fan of Augstine's at all so my opinion is a bit biased.
tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Pablo is making more than DJ Augustine. That's the main thing I see
we had more options to actually fill our PG and Big man needs... with some players who may not only be better, but younger....
So your point is that the Knicks front office blew it once again.....in other words more on why you think they suck and have not earned your fandom. Or am I missing your meaning?
I prefer Pablo over Augustine because neither will be a knick lifer and Pablo is a better fit. More poise. I just don't get why we gave him an extra 700,000. As evident by this list we overpaid. That's 700,000 that could've been used to sign Udrih who will weigh his decision on money and caliber of team he is joining
gunsnewing wrote:I prefer Pablo over Augustine because neither will be a knick lifer and Pablo is a better fit. More poise. I just don't get why we gave him an extra 700,000. As evident by this list we overpaid. That's 700,000 that could've been used to sign Udrih who will weigh his decision on money and caliber of team he is joining
Well Grunwald wanted to sign Pablo last year to a multi year deal but Pablo wouldn't sign because he wanted the opportunity to make more money the next season. He still isn't making much but he wouldn't have stayed without the extra money.
You are right. It's not his fault the knicks have to penny pinch
the list shows that a ton of value was picked up on the super cheap
these are all ballers that went for peanuts, amazing
The owners seem to have succeeded in correcting the problem they had with the MLE. Remember how many players that were mediocre used to get the full MLE and now there are far fewer guys getting that kind of money. There's a greater gap between the top tier players and the rest of the league. Now teams pay top dollar for the top talent and peanuts for the rest of the players on their teams. Before this CBA teams kept making bad full MLE signings for players that weren't really worth that money. Now they've saved themselves from making that mistake by legislating it out as an option for many teams like the Knicks. The owners know that they are their own worst enemy. If given the option they'd use it.
