Bonn1997 wrote:Shumpert averages 12 points on 11 shots per 36 min. Faried averages 15 on 11 shots per 36 min. Yet somehow people are treating this like Faried is the one with the worse offensive game.
Yeah but if you look at their per 20 min stats
Shumpert avg 10 Points off of 6 shots
Faried avg 8 points off of 8 shots
But then again...looking at their 40 min per shots averages..
Shumpert 27 points off of 15 shots
Faried 32 points off of 18 shots
But I will still take Shumpert because he averages placing a towel over head (while sitting on the bench) 0.9 times per 40 min, where Faries avg 2.3, and I really hate that because it reminds me of Marbury.
JohnStarksFan wrote:I don't understand how he has fallen out of favor. He is an elite defender, even if he missed a step this year. I guess it's probably best for him to go if this is how his "family" feels about him. No more knickstape (the originator of this). The saddest part about this is going to be when the deal falls through, Shump is stuck here knowing for the third time the organization has sh*t on him, and was signed to an extension. That would sure kill my motivation.
Dolan is a moron!! He's been upset with the guys since before summer league. If this guys goes, I am pretty certain Melo will join Kobe in LA. Dolan is too f-ing hands on. He never let anyone do their job. This guy is worst the Jerry Jones as an owner.
fishmike wrote:Faried is a good player especially with small line ups because he's a dominating rebounder. Limited offensive game. At least he's young and we arent trading Shump for a guy about to be 40.This probably helps us, but makes us even more married to JR. 
Straight up trade between the two teams make no sense for the Knicks.
Swishfm3 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Shumpert averages 12 points on 11 shots per 36 min. Faried averages 15 on 11 shots per 36 min. Yet somehow people are treating this like Faried is the one with the worse offensive game.
Yeah but if you look at their per 20 min stats
Shumpert avg 10 Points off of 6 shots
Faried avg 8 points off of 8 shots
But then again...looking at their 40 min per shots averages..
Shumpert 27 points off of 15 shots
Faried 32 points off of 18 shots
But I will still take Shumpert because he averages placing a towel over head (while sitting on the bench) 0.9 times per 40 min, where Faries avg 2.3, and I really hate that because it reminds me of Marbury.
Are you citing this year's data or the career data? This year is based on like 5 games.
Shrimp is the last player with upside Knicks have.
And the only 2-way player except of Meta...
Trading him is the most stupid thing Knicks can do... so they will deferentially do it.
From this point of view this swap is OK.
But if Kniggs will not go for it Dolan will trade him got Rudy or some other garbage.
knicks1248 wrote:faried 23 nnd 13 tonight
Against Jordan Hill and Pau Gasol. Ain't no thing.
We get beat by double digits without Shump tonight. It's not all about stats with Shump.
Nalod wrote:Knuggs not interested.
as I said before, they would want more than just shumpert.. faried is the better player at this point..
This trade doesn't do anything for the Knicks. We need rebounding as well as perimeter defense, we are trading one hole for another.
Perimeter defenders don't grow on trees. For the past several years Miami is still relying on Lebron and Wade to defend the perimeter.
fishmike wrote:jrodmc wrote:fishmike wrote:crzymdups wrote:fishmike wrote:it would have been nice to see a Shump/Lin backcourt get a couple years together and see where we are. Thats what a well run team would do. Thats why Indy is playing so well. Its not the Knick way
this is what i wanted. it makes it hard to be a fan of this team. when Lin/Shump/Melo/Tyson first played for Woodson they went 5-0 and beat Indiana twice. Paul George was only just coming into his own and Lance Stephenson was coming off the bench, a promising young player. Since? Lin and Shump let go and traded because the owner doesn't like the way they acted off court and the Knicks are struggling. Indiana develops their young guys and look like the best team in the league, with a real chance to beat the Heat. Not saying the Knicks would beat the Heat, but Lin/Shump would be a lot of fun and far better than Felton/JR.
yea.... and replaced by a total clown who acts like a junior in high school
Oh yes, they would be alot of fun to watch especially in suits during the playoffs. Or for most of the last two seasons.
Lin and Shump in suits would be more effective in the playoffs than JR. So I agree with you there.
And you said you don't talk silly.
JohnStarksFan wrote:Yo alexs, can you change the name of this thread man. It is not imminent that Shump is gone and it's killing my vibe.
Don't think you can edit thread titles, can you?
tkf wrote:Nalod wrote:Knuggs not interested.
as I said before, they would want more than just shumpert.. faried is the better player at this point..
This has nothing to do with who is better Denver knows that they can fleece the Knicks. They have done it before so they know.
SJUknicksfan wrote:We get beat by double digits without Shump tonight. It's not all about stats with Shump.
9 dimes? That's a nice glaring stat.
Why can't our troll owner take that as fragrant offering of peace and homage?
Faried would get here and somehow blow a ligament or something.
JohnStarksFan wrote:knicks1248 wrote:faried 23 nnd 13 tonight
Against Jordan Hill and Pau Gasol. Ain't no thing.
Though to be fair --- Gasol went for 28 and 12 Hill went for 18 and 15 ----- so not particularly sure if Faried got the best of anybody last night.
I watched the game and was most impressed with Jordan Hill --- really showing great effort on the boards this year.
Shump for Hill would be nice but don't think that's happening.
At this point I would trade half the team to anybody who would give us a 1st rounder just to shut up the Somber whiners.
No, tkf, that wouldn't include Melo.
How about shumpert and udrih (when eligible) to okc for Reggie Jackson and thabeet? Shumpert would be a good fit for okc especially since he can replace sefolosha for cheaper when he expires this summer. We get a pg with good upside and a backup center.
nycisgreat wrote:fishmike wrote:Faried is a good player especially with small line ups because he's a dominating rebounder. Limited offensive game. At least he's young and we arent trading Shump for a guy about to be 40.This probably helps us, but makes us even more married to JR.
Straight up trade between the two teams make no sense for the Knicks.
makes perfect sense. Knicks dont have a real PF on the roster. They have broken old guys. Shump is not a 3, he's a 2. We are commited to JR Smith there. Fills big need for both teams. Knicks would be a much better team with Faried starting at PF and Melo at the 3
fishmike wrote:nycisgreat wrote:fishmike wrote:Faried is a good player especially with small line ups because he's a dominating rebounder. Limited offensive game. At least he's young and we arent trading Shump for a guy about to be 40.This probably helps us, but makes us even more married to JR.
Straight up trade between the two teams make no sense for the Knicks.
makes perfect sense. Knicks dont have a real PF on the roster. They have broken old guys. Shump is not a 3, he's a 2. We are commited to JR Smith there. Fills big need for both teams. Knicks would be a much better team with Faried starting at PF and Melo at the 3
How much sense does faried really make when chandler comes back? Seems like you either commit to Melo at the 4 or start bargnani with Melo at the 3.
