Knicks1969 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:NardDogNation wrote:gunsnewing wrote:What assets a late 1st round pick so we can pray we draft another shumpert? Or 2nd round picks so we can pray for another Landry fields or Cleanthony early?
Every year, there is a guy with unquestionable talent that falls to the late first round. And every year, it's a guy I'd rather have than Shumpert. I know he was drafted in 2011 but the following is to demonstrate the phletora of talent in the late first round: In 2013 it was Gorgui Dieng, Mason Plumlee, THJr and Rudy Gobert. In 2012 it was Miles Plumlee, Tony Wroten and Jared Sullinger. In 2011 it was Nikola Mirotic, Kenneth Faried, Reggie Jackson, Chandler Parsons and Jimmy Butler. In 2009 it was Jeff Teague, Darren Collision, Taj Gibson and Danny Green. In 2008, it was Ryan Anderson, Serge Ibaka, Darrell Arthur, Nicolas Batum, Omer Asik, Nikola Pekovic, DeAndre Jordan and Goran Dragic (who we passed up to select Patrick Ewing Jr). We could find the next one of these guys in the late first round and I much rather take the risk that the pick turns into one of them than pay Shumpert +$8 million to be a role player, which is what he is destined to be.
Best case scenario would be to grab a player like the ones mentioned with the draft pick acquired from trading Shump. As well as signing a guy for +8 mil with the cap space saved from resigning Shump. Turning 1 Shump into 2 Shumps.
Great analogy
Yep or get a
Cheap Young Chump instead of keeping an Older Expensive Chump
If Shumpert's hair keeps growing--he can be our long lost 7 footer we need!
BRIGGS wrote:If Shumpert's hair keeps growing--he can be our long lost 7 footer we need!
Lmfao.......
Knicks1969 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:If Shumpert's hair keeps growing--he can be our long lost 7 footer we need!
Lmfao.......
Seriously though--at some point isnt that thing going to effect his play--something with aerodynamics? One thing he forgot tonight--when your first 3 J's are off--take it to the rack pass rebound play D. He spent his last 10 games building his FG% to a well-deserved 50%++ and shatters in tonight. We need a couple of big men some addition by subtraction and a couple of years. Whats the thing we need the most---luck in the lottery. We need that number 1 pick.
Who will be in this draft that can be considered to be a stud?
People (perhaps understandably) are excited about Shumpert because he's our kid. If he was doing this on another team, I doubt we'd be looking for a way to grab him and sign him to a large, long-term contract next year.
Bonn1997 wrote:People (perhaps understandably) are excited about Shumpert because he's our kid. If he was doing this on another team, I doubt we'd be looking for a way to grab him and sign him to a large, long-term contract next year.
sure they would. His stock would be even higher in some knicks fans eyes.
last night was much more like the Shumpert we have come to know. Is it time to trade yet?
fishmike wrote:last night was much more like the Shumpert we have come to know. Is it time to trade yet?
not yet unless somebody offers something too good to pass up.
StarksEwing1 wrote:fishmike wrote:last night was much more like the Shumpert we have come to know. Is it time to trade yet?
not yet unless somebody offers something too good to pass up.
do you want to resign him? And if so how much? Keep in mind Knicks FO is so cap sensitive they didnt pick up Larkin's option of $1.6mm
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:People (perhaps understandably) are excited about Shumpert because he's our kid. If he was doing this on another team, I doubt we'd be looking for a way to grab him and sign him to a large, long-term contract next year.
sure they would. His stock would be even higher in some knicks fans eyes.
We'd have to trade him away first, though. That always raises a player's stock on this board.
jrodmc wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:People (perhaps understandably) are excited about Shumpert because he's our kid. If he was doing this on another team, I doubt we'd be looking for a way to grab him and sign him to a large, long-term contract next year.
sure they would. His stock would be even higher in some knicks fans eyes.
We'd have to trade him away first, though. That always raises a player's stock on this board.
Or we could hold on to Shumpert like we did Lee and Nate and Lin
And get back the likes of Anthony Randolphs and ThazMaBookies or
Have Phil hiding somewhere in a Dubai skyscraper avoiding matching
The "ridiculous contract" he'll receive
In the meantime we'll enjoy his 2-9fg and 1-11fg shooting performances[at least 7-10 more to come]
Coupling it with piss poor defense resulting in automatic losses
F500ONE wrote:jrodmc wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:People (perhaps understandably) are excited about Shumpert because he's our kid. If he was doing this on another team, I doubt we'd be looking for a way to grab him and sign him to a large, long-term contract next year.
sure they would. His stock would be even higher in some knicks fans eyes.
We'd have to trade him away first, though. That always raises a player's stock on this board.
Or we could hold on to Shumpert like we did Lee and Nate and Lin and get back the likes of Anthony Randolphs and ThazMaBookies or have Phil hiding somewhere in a Dubai skyscraper avoiding matching the "ridiculous contract" he'll receive. In the meantime we'll enjoy his 2-9fg and 1-11fg shooting performances. Expect at least 7-10 more to come, coupling it with piss poor defense resulting in automatic losses
we should trade him for a defensive minded 2 guard
mreinman wrote:we should trade him for a defensive minded 2 guard
Yes we need this badly
I would trade with Bobcats[they're struggling]
Shump/J.R./Larkin/2018 1st
4
MKG/Brian Roberts/Gerald Henderson
fishmike wrote:F500ONE wrote:jrodmc wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:People (perhaps understandably) are excited about Shumpert because he's our kid. If he was doing this on another team, I doubt we'd be looking for a way to grab him and sign him to a large, long-term contract next year.
sure they would. His stock would be even higher in some knicks fans eyes.
We'd have to trade him away first, though. That always raises a player's stock on this board.
Or we could hold on to Shumpert like we did Lee and Nate and Lin and get back the likes of Anthony Randolphs and ThazMaBookies or have Phil hiding somewhere in a Dubai skyscraper avoiding matching the "ridiculous contract" he'll receive. In the meantime we'll enjoy his 2-9fg and 1-11fg shooting performances. Expect at least 7-10 more to come, coupling it with piss poor defense resulting in automatic losses
Thanks, fish, he's much more readable this way.
Although, he still makes no sense. Dubai skyscraper. Hmmmm...
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:we should trade him for a defensive minded 2 guard
Yes we need this badly
I would trade with Bobcats[they're struggling]
Shump/J.R./Larkin/2018 1st
4
MKG/Brian Roberts/Gerald Henderson
1st rounder? No way! We need to started considering keeping those.
MKG is a really nice defender though
jrodmc wrote:fishmike wrote:F500ONE wrote:jrodmc wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:People (perhaps understandably) are excited about Shumpert because he's our kid. If he was doing this on another team, I doubt we'd be looking for a way to grab him and sign him to a large, long-term contract next year.
sure they would. His stock would be even higher in some knicks fans eyes.
We'd have to trade him away first, though. That always raises a player's stock on this board.
Or we could hold on to Shumpert like we did Lee and Nate and Lin and get back the likes of Anthony Randolphs and ThazMaBookies or have Phil hiding somewhere in a Dubai skyscraper avoiding matching the "ridiculous contract" he'll receive. In the meantime we'll enjoy his 2-9fg and 1-11fg shooting performances. Expect at least 7-10 more to come, coupling it with piss poor defense resulting in automatic losses
Thanks, fish, he's much more readable this way.
Although, he still makes no sense. Dubai skyscraper. Hmmmm...
yea it really didnt help. I tried
Giving the price he might command, Knicks should cash in and acquire a much cheaper player that perhaps can give us the same production. This dude is not worth $7+ million
Knicks1969 wrote:Giving the price he might command, Knicks should cash in and acquire a much cheaper player that perhaps can give us the same production. This dude is not worth $7+ million
Bottom line is he's looking for a raise and simply isnt worth it.
mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:we should trade him for a defensive minded 2 guard
Yes we need this badly
I would trade with Bobcats[they're struggling]
Shump/J.R./Larkin/2018 1st
4
MKG/Brian Roberts/Gerald Henderson
1st rounder? No way! We need to started considering keeping those.
MKG is a really nice defender though
We should be really good by 2018
If not Phil has failed miserably
