Knicks · A TRADE OF SHUMP AND AMARE FOR (BORN READY) STEPHENSON (page 3)

Hector @ 12/3/2014 11:54 AM
Even though Lance is a knucklehead, I'd gladly take him for 2 knuckleheads (Shump & Chump jr)

I like his rebounding. He also plays with some intensity, even though sometimes he wigs out a bit.

Knicks1969 @ 12/3/2014 12:06 PM
Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

VCoug @ 12/3/2014 12:09 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

I don't understand the point of the OKC trade.

Vmart @ 12/3/2014 12:34 PM
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

I don't understand the point of the OKC trade.

I don't understand the point of any of these trades.

mreinman @ 12/3/2014 12:38 PM
Vmart wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Two trades we must do:

Bargnani to OKC for Collison and Perkins
Amare and Shump for Lance and byambo

I don't understand the point of the OKC trade.

I don't understand the point of any of these trades.

when you are bored (and your team sucks):

1. Poor people have sex
2. Fans make ridiculous fantasy trades (especially when you are bored and 1. does not apply)

H1AND1 @ 12/3/2014 12:46 PM
Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.
mreinman @ 12/3/2014 12:49 PM
H1AND1 wrote:Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.

collison is expiring, right?

VCoug @ 12/3/2014 12:50 PM
mreinman wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.

collison is expiring, right?

Yeah, Collison, Perkins, and Bargnani are all expiring this year.

mreinman @ 12/3/2014 12:51 PM
VCoug wrote:
mreinman wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Why does OKC give up a useful piece in Collison for fukking useless Bargs? OKC has title aspirations and those kinds of teams don't trade guys like Collison whose been with them
His entire career. Lmfao. No way in hell that trade
Is a pure pipe dream.

collison is expiring, right?

Yeah, Collison, Perkins, and Bargnani are all expiring this year.

yeah ... maybe we get reggie in the same trade to even it up.

Knicks1969 @ 12/3/2014 12:55 PM
The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

H1AND1 @ 12/3/2014 1:05 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

VCoug @ 12/3/2014 1:08 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Knicks1969 @ 12/3/2014 1:09 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

H1AND1 @ 12/3/2014 1:11 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

Trading Bargs without giving up a pick and getting back an actual asset or actually useful is about as close to impossible as you can get.

He straight up sukks and everyone in the league knows it.

mreinman @ 12/3/2014 1:17 PM
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Veterans do not mean Veteran Leaders.

We don't have any Veteran Leaders and that is a huge problem.

Maybe Jose can be that eventually ...

mreinman @ 12/3/2014 1:18 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

then I propose that we trade JR for Jimmy Butler.

Fisher can use a guy like Jimmy Butler because he can help the team and help Fisher.

Knicks1969 @ 12/3/2014 1:21 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Sure, that all makes total sense and is a great point. What's beside the point is suggesting a trade that isnt in the realm of reality to illustrate what you wrote above.

Has that trade been proposed and rejected? Nothing is impossible in this world.

then I propose that we trade JR for Jimmy Butler.

Fisher can use a guy like Jimmy Butler because he can help the team and help Fisher.

Ahahaahahahahh. Rotfl

VCoug @ 12/3/2014 1:28 PM
mreinman wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Veterans do not mean Veteran Leaders.

We don't have any Veteran Leaders and that is a huge problem.

Maybe Jose can be that eventually ...

Jose's 35 years old, there is no more "eventually" for him. And I'd love to hear what makes Collison and Perkins veteran leaders.

mreinman @ 12/3/2014 1:29 PM
VCoug wrote:
mreinman wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Veterans do not mean Veteran Leaders.

We don't have any Veteran Leaders and that is a huge problem.

Maybe Jose can be that eventually ...

Jose's 35 years old, there is no more "eventually" for him. And I'd love to hear what makes Collison and Perkins veteran leaders.

Jose may be that this year ... not sure that he is the guy.

Collison leads by example. Perfect veteran. Not sure how vocal he is.

BigDaddyG @ 12/3/2014 1:34 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Hornets are looking for wing and PF upgrade. Not sure if Shump and or JR fits that bill.

They might be, the way lance is playing. Lance without a J is Vincent Askew, a nice role player off the bench. Even his free throw shooting is down. Those are things that have nothing to do with Kemba Walker. You have to wonder if stopped working on his game this summer while waiting to sign a big deal.
H1AND1 @ 12/3/2014 1:34 PM
mreinman wrote:
VCoug wrote:
mreinman wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The point for the OKC trade is actually to help Fisher the coach. Like good coaching, it is imperative to have a vet on the bench to help the young players understand what it is they are doing incorrectly. Like when Kidd and Sheed were on the bench two seasons ago. Or Kidd the coach his first year with the Nets. Without Garnett or Pierce, it would have been a train wreck in Kidd's first year.

I am not saying OKC would do the trade; I am simply highlighting the TYPE of trades that may prove to be valuable for years to come.

Veteran's leadership is a vital tool for young coaches and young players.

Yes, that's what we need: Veteran Leadership. Of course, we're already the 11th oldest team in the league this season, 7th oldest last season, so maybe the issue isn't that we don't have enough veterans but that we suck.

Veterans do not mean Veteran Leaders.

We don't have any Veteran Leaders and that is a huge problem.

Maybe Jose can be that eventually ...

Jose's 35 years old, there is no more "eventually" for him. And I'd love to hear what makes Collison and Perkins veteran leaders.

Jose may be that this year ... not sure that he is the guy.

Collison leads by example. Perfect veteran. Not sure how vocal he is.

Do a google image search for pics of Collison all bloody. A guy who gets plays so hard he gets bloody all the time w/o a care is the kinda player any team needs.

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