Knicks · Leadership 101: Why Isn't Melo in Las Vegas? (page 4)

AlexanderFuSheng wrote:

holfresh wrote:Yeah..Bonding with some 7 foot dude in Summer League...Riiiight..

He (Carmelo) really posts some stupid shit.

As does every other athlete if you consider that stupid..

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:Who cares cause Captain Kirk Nieuwenhuis just hit his 3rd home run in 3 at bats. Kids been through a lot in his years in baseball so it's good to see him doing well. At least today anyway.

yup good for him. I was there yesterday for harvey

He pitched one heck of a game after giving up that two run HR to Peralta.

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:Who cares cause Captain Kirk Nieuwenhuis just hit his 3rd home run in 3 at bats. Kids been through a lot in his years in baseball so it's good to see him doing well. At least today anyway.

yup good for him. I was there yesterday for harvey

He pitched one heck of a game after giving up that two run HR to Peralta.

his homerun was great to see live.

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Maybe he is looking for more in a woman than u are..

other than a big ass and breasts i dont see much

She has a big wallet too..

...And here I was going to back you up and say that maybe she's an intelligent soul mate type for Anthony and you throw out the money angle...

Knicks1969 wrote:

wargames wrote:Come on guys this is such a unnecessary thread.

First we have no idea what Melo's plans are for the Summer and even if we did its his time to do with as he pleases.

Also we don't know if he plans to go to a later game.

Seriously dude? After a 17 wins season, a dude with Carmelo's status needs to be out there helping to build the confidence of the young cats to avoid a repeat of such a mediocre season.

No he doesn't need to be out there but it would be nice if he was.

Knicks1969 wrote:

anrst wrote:It is completely shameful and insulting that affalo hadn't even heard from the guy ... The same guy who said he'd help us recruit ... Total fraud

I am actually a Carmelo supporter, but his actions after signing that big contract are really disturbing to me. I don't blame him for the contract, but Phil is a fool for thinking this dude is deserving of all of that money.

It surprises me to hear you say you're a supporter os anything Knicks.

It is not a must he is there imo, he has family and friends too you know. Plus, only five of those guys are going to be on our Sl as going to be on our main roster for next season. He might be cancer to this organization,but he is allowed to live his life if he wants to.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:Who cares cause Captain Kirk Nieuwenhuis just hit his 3rd home run in 3 at bats. Kids been through a lot in his years in baseball so it's good to see him doing well. At least today anyway.

yup good for him. I was there yesterday for harvey

He pitched one heck of a game after giving up that two run HR to Peralta.

his homerun was great to see live.

I'm glad they didn't take it away from him with the kid reaching over but you could tell it would of at least hit the orange line anyway.

Dolan is the motherfucker I want to see suffer

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:Who cares cause Captain Kirk Nieuwenhuis just hit his 3rd home run in 3 at bats. Kids been through a lot in his years in baseball so it's good to see him doing well. At least today anyway.

yup good for him. I was there yesterday for harvey

He pitched one heck of a game after giving up that two run HR to Peralta.

his homerun was great to see live.

I'm glad they didn't take it away from him with the kid reaching over but you could tell it would of at least hit the orange line anyway.

i was behind third base and it was clear it was over the orange line. Peralta was going crazy

TPercy wrote:Dolan is the motherfucker I want to see suffer

i dont wish him any harm, i just want a new ownership

TripleThreat wrote:

misterearl wrote:... how difficult would it be to show up on day one to support his potential teammates?

What is on his schedule that is more important than introducing himself, getting to know the guys and just being present vas a sign of support?

How difficult is that?

Peyton Manning was apparently in an interview predraft with a NFL GM, and he was asked, what would you do if I drafted you right now if I could? Manning's answer was get on the first flight to X city, meet with the offensive coordinator and meet with his receivers and start breaking down the playbook, that there was a lot of work to do. The GM asked then, what if my team never drafts you at all? Manning answered, then I will spent the rest of my career beating the living shit out of your team and making you pay for not drafting me. Apparently he ended the sentence with Sir.

When Ryan Leaf, the other QB1 prospect at the time in the running for the first overall pick, was asked the same question, he said he would throw a party for him and his friends to celebrate getting drafted. One scouting report came out years later about Ryan Leaf, saying " the kind of player who will sit on the TV and watch the couch ", i.e. denoting he was not only a player with a poor work ethic, but one with a low IQ in general.

Over time, when Manning would get a new WR, he would sit down with them as rookies, and then show them how to use the team laptops to watch game film and how to break down plays. Then he'd drill with them in the offseason. During halftime and breaks ingame, he'd scour over photos of gameplay and tendencies with his receivers. He's the first in to work and the last to leave. He makes sure to socialize with his offensive linemen as a group, then again with his receiving corps.

His work ethic is unquestioned. His desire to win is unquestioned. His word in the organization is unquestioned.

Win or lose, the blood is there, evident, all over the field.

Melo - the kind of guy who sits on the TV and watches the couch.

It would be one thing if he was stone dead silent. Just didn't say anything and went about the job like a job. But he represents a pure net negative impact with the intangibles. Whenever a mic in his face, he finds a way to say the most anti team/stupidest thing possible. You're just dumb when you say stupid things. You shift into full blown imbecile when you don't know when to shut up. Ever.

If Zinger, in a rare form, has a solid stretch of putting up solid numbers, and MSG is rocking and people are screaming MVP at him, are we really going to be surprised when Melo throws a tantrum over it?

i am a fan of this post... but in my mind it comes close to piling on since the vast majority of fans, even the ones who are slavish about defending him, acknowledge he just does not have the leadership or mental fortitude of a true franchise player. "he is who he is. we accept that about him. he is a simply a very talented player, a "scorer", and not such a bad guy."

so far as bbiq i suppose that is more open to debate-- i think he is stupid on the court and i think he is stupid off the court.

no question his jealousy of others comes across as bitchy....

Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

CrushAlot wrote:Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

Who cares what they are doing? They are not costing us more than a third of our cap space -they have ZERO relevance to the Knicks. And some of them have delivered actual results not fancy popularity contest bullshit and individual stats obtained at the cost of team success.

What is with people getting bent out of shape when Melo gets called out? He gets called out because He is NOT a leader, he IS selfish and he can't share limelight with others. And he will NEVER win a NBA championship as the primary focal point of this or any other team. Is the truth so hard to swallow that this needs to be wrapped in politically correct BS? People are free to like him all they want, but to act like others are making stuff up about him and being negative when they are calling it the way they see is ridiculously immature IMO.

^Well put

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

Who cares what they are doing? They are not costing us more than a third of our cap space -they have ZERO relevance to the Knicks. And some of them have delivered actual results not fancy popularity contest bullshit and individual stats obtained at the cost of team success.

What is with people getting bent out of shape when Melo gets called out? He gets called out because He is NOT a leader, he IS selfish and he can't share limelight with others. And he will NEVER win a NBA championship as the primary focal point of this or any other team. Is the truth so hard to swallow that this needs to be wrapped in politically correct BS? People are free to like him all they want, but to act like others are making stuff up about him and being negative when they are calling it the way they see is ridiculously immature IMO.

very fair points

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

Who cares what they are doing? They are not costing us more than a third of our cap space -they have ZERO relevance to the Knicks. And some of them have delivered actual results not fancy popularity contest bullshit and individual stats obtained at the cost of team success.

What is with people getting bent out of shape when Melo gets called out? He gets called out because He is NOT a leader, he IS selfish and he can't share limelight with others. And he will NEVER win a NBA championship as the primary focal point of this or any other team. Is the truth so hard to swallow that this needs to be wrapped in politically correct BS? People are free to like him all they want, but to act like others are making stuff up about him and being negative when they are calling it the way they see is ridiculously immature IMO.

You are making shiit up because you are asking him to do things other aren't expected to do..No other vet is at Vegas but u expect him to be there because it's the Knicks..Not immature just outright stupid..

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

Who cares what they are doing? They are not costing us more than a third of our cap space -they have ZERO relevance to the Knicks. And some of them have delivered actual results not fancy popularity contest bullshit and individual stats obtained at the cost of team success.

What is with people getting bent out of shape when Melo gets called out? He gets called out because He is NOT a leader, he IS selfish and he can't share limelight with others. And he will NEVER win a NBA championship as the primary focal point of this or any other team. Is the truth so hard to swallow that this needs to be wrapped in politically correct BS? People are free to like him all they want, but to act like others are making stuff up about him and being negative when they are calling it the way they see is ridiculously immature IMO.

I think there is plenty to call him out for but this isn't one of those things. Are his peers not meeting the summer league leadership 101 standards? The points you are bringing up have nothing to do with attending the summer league. Obviously with a user name of Meloshouldgo you're opinion regarding whether the Knicks are better off without Melo is known. Summer league attendance/leadership is being questioned in this thread. Just wondering how his peers are doing in that department. It appears not well since no one is answering the question.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

Who cares what they are doing? They are not costing us more than a third of our cap space -they have ZERO relevance to the Knicks. And some of them have delivered actual results not fancy popularity contest bullshit and individual stats obtained at the cost of team success.

What is with people getting bent out of shape when Melo gets called out? He gets called out because He is NOT a leader, he IS selfish and he can't share limelight with others. And he will NEVER win a NBA championship as the primary focal point of this or any other team. Is the truth so hard to swallow that this needs to be wrapped in politically correct BS? People are free to like him all they want, but to act like others are making stuff up about him and being negative when they are calling it the way they see is ridiculously immature IMO.

very fair points

To be honest...the points are totally unfair and irrelevant to the topic. WTF does this rant have to do with summer league? Looking at dudes username, its near impossible to imagine he can post anything unbiased about Melo. Im pretty sure its a cut and paste post.

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

Who cares what they are doing? They are not costing us more than a third of our cap space -they have ZERO relevance to the Knicks. And some of them have delivered actual results not fancy popularity contest bullshit and individual stats obtained at the cost of team success.

What is with people getting bent out of shape when Melo gets called out? He gets called out because He is NOT a leader, he IS selfish and he can't share limelight with others. And he will NEVER win a NBA championship as the primary focal point of this or any other team. Is the truth so hard to swallow that this needs to be wrapped in politically correct BS? People are free to like him all they want, but to act like others are making stuff up about him and being negative when they are calling it the way they see is ridiculously immature IMO.

very fair points

To be honest...the points are totally unfair and irrelevant to the topic. WTF does this rant have to do with summer league? Looking at dudes username, its near impossible to imagine he can post anything unbiased about Melo. Im pretty sure its a cut and paste post.

to be honest im tired of hearing about melo. Id rather focus on porzingis/grant. Also guys Like o'quinn and lopez who will help

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just wondering if Harden, Curry, Rose, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe, Brow, Lilliard, Duncan, Lowry/Derozan, Wall, etc. are all passing their leadership 101 class in Vegas?

Who cares what they are doing? They are not costing us more than a third of our cap space -they have ZERO relevance to the Knicks. And some of them have delivered actual results not fancy popularity contest bullshit and individual stats obtained at the cost of team success.

What is with people getting bent out of shape when Melo gets called out? He gets called out because He is NOT a leader, he IS selfish and he can't share limelight with others. And he will NEVER win a NBA championship as the primary focal point of this or any other team. Is the truth so hard to swallow that this needs to be wrapped in politically correct BS? People are free to like him all they want, but to act like others are making stuff up about him and being negative when they are calling it the way they see is ridiculously immature IMO.

very fair points

To be honest...the points are totally unfair and irrelevant to the topic. WTF does this rant have to do with summer league? Looking at dudes username, its near impossible to imagine he can post anything unbiased about Melo. Im pretty sure its a cut and paste post.

to be honest im tired of hearing about melo. Id rather focus on porzingis/grant. Also guys Like o'quinn and lopez who will help

So Irish, why don't you..