Knicks · Knicks have reached out to Boston and Clippers about Melo (page 6)

nyknickzingis wrote:A deal I like is Rondo and MCW for Melo and Jennings. Melo goes to play with Wade and Butler. Plays the 4 his best spot. Bulls definitely make the playoffs. He wanted to go to Chicago in 2014. Chicago would neeed to add more contracts than Rondo and MCW.

This could be the worse trade i've seen so far and might be the worse i've ever seen. I'd take Reddick, Crawford and Rivers before i'd take Rondo and MCW.

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

nyknickzingis wrote:A deal I like is Rondo and MCW for Melo and Jennings. Melo goes to play with Wade and Butler. Plays the 4 his best spot. Bulls definitely make the playoffs. He wanted to go to Chicago in 2014. Chicago would neeed to add more contracts than Rondo and MCW.

MS wrote:Boston is the only team that makes real sense.

Crowder, Bradley, Johnson for Melo, KOQ and Holiday makes sense from our side, not sure it does on their side. Getting guys on smart contracts like that we might be inclined to include a pick.

We need to get younger in the backcourt, then start flipping pieces, shut down KP to 20 minutes a night, get Willy some time and look to move Jennnings. Courtney Lee could easily be moved to the clippers for reddick and a draft selection since his contract would be below market and they could reroute him elsewhere for a late pick or another expiring.

Having - KP, Willy, Crowder, Bradley would be a nice start. Get aggressive in free agency, if not be patient for another season.

dacash wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

dacash wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:If all you can get is a role player and capspace for Melo, you should consider trading Rose instead. Melo will do better next year if he is separated from Rose and we get a PG that does not like to go 1 on 1, who likes to pass and defend and set up the offense. Deal Rose instead.

I think all Knicks are doing is engage what they can get for Melo. That's why they have not told him yet they are trading him. All talk now usual around deadline nothing close to being done.

if thats the case rubio for rose is ok then

I think Melo would benefit from a pass first PG too. He did with Kidd and Billups. The issue is he then becomes the sole ball stopper again and we have seen that does not work either.

NY has been there done that.

Deal Rose for Rubio and then try to get Griffin for Melo.

KP
Griffin
Kuz
Rubio
Lee

Better D, scoring intact and better ball movement.

Does either team make the deal? I doubt it.

theres already the "report" that says phil doesnt even want to break up the clips big three sooo griff aint coming here

plus with the NTC no way Melo would go. If he's going to LA, it's to win and trading one of the 3 is antithetical to that

MS wrote:Boston is the only team that makes real sense.

Crowder, Bradley, Johnson for Melo, KOQ and Holiday makes sense from our side, not sure it does on their side. Getting guys on smart contracts like that we might be inclined to include a pick.

We need to get younger in the backcourt, then start flipping pieces, shut down KP to 20 minutes a night, get Willy some time and look to move Jennnings. Courtney Lee could easily be moved to the clippers for reddick and a draft selection since his contract would be below market and they could reroute him elsewhere for a late pick or another expiring.

Having - KP, Willy, Crowder, Bradley would be a nice start. Get aggressive in free agency, if not be patient for another season.

I would prefer Smart. He can't shoot well but the idea would be he can improve on that. Avery is solid, solid defender but you're buying high. He's playing the best ball he has ever played.

Also wouldn't want to part with Holiday for multiple reasons, including he's playing well and might entice his brother to join NY.

I like KOQ but we have a log jam at bigs right now.

fitzfarm wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:This is the trade the knicks should go for with the clips

Melo for rivers,perice,reddick

PP retiring and JJ are UFA after this year this opens up a lot of $ for the off season. We can go after a top FA this off season and if we tank we can get a top 5 pick.

KP,Noah
Willy,KOQ
Kuz,Lee,PP
JJ,rivers,holiday
Rose,Jennings,Rivers

It's a fresh start to truly build around KP next year and rivers is a solid young player

Next year rose, Jennings, JJ, PP all off the books

2018

KP,Noah
Willy,KOQ
Kuz,Lee
Rivers,holiday,baker
top 5 pick,baker

I don't think the Knicks are attracting any marquee free agents the way this has been handled. The marquee guys don't leave anyway. Look at what happened to the Nets. I don't know what this looks like but if Phil comes away with the proposed Clip package only Dolan should fire him on the spot.

Let's not forget this gives KP the rains and gives us the ability to run the offense through him not melo ... this turns KP into the super star we all know he is . He will make everyone around him better, he's a 7'3 monster no one can stop top FA will want to team up with KP more so then melo.

He is having a horrible run right now and it has been for awhile. His shooting, d, rebounding etc has been really bad. He also can't set a screen so moving him to the 5 doesn't work. He has the potential to be that guy eventually but I think he needs to be the second or third guy on a team at this point.

All young guys aren't ready to lead but they learn on the fly. We will be bad but that's ok. He's not playing well but it has been because of injury so we know he will turn it back around soon. Amazing how down people are on him. He was putting up big numbers before he got hurt.

Yes 100% agree, I think KP flourishes as the go to guy. He's looks depressed playing second/third fiddle to melo and rose sometimes only taking 11 shots!!! What the f u c k KP should be dominant taking at least 15 plus shots a game he should be our go to guy not melo. Some times he doesn't even take a shot till the second quarter. WHAT ! Sometimes we don't run a play for KP for most of the game WHAT ??! KP has the potential to be the greatest knick of all time. Like Tim Duncan was to the spurs KP should be for the knicks .. the fact that we have such a dominant talent as KP and we don't run the offense through him is a travesty. Melo is a star talent but by all means at best is a second/maybe third option on a real offense esp a offense that has a supior talent to him in KP and even rose has more talent then melo...melo ether has to except that he's not the main man anymore or be ok with being traded because melo as option number one dose not work it hasn't for years ...... this is KP's team melo get in line or get the f u c k outta New York .

KP has not showed any type of winning talent .. some people need to stop the HYPE of a raw 7.3 wing player who's clueless about several talents like passing, scoring in the low-post, and boxing-out for the rebound.
KP need a big-man coach (Patrick Ewing) to raise his shooting percentage way above 38%, plus show him the 3 to 4 step move in dominating the paint-glass with his long arms.

Lebron said it best bout Carmelo Anthony .. Melo is a controlling PLAY-MAKER that has always upset his teammate PG to not wanting to get on the court with Melo.
I recall Rose n Jennings in the lineup and Melo keep bringing the ball upcourt to call a play for Melo.

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

Gallo wanted to give you a thumbs up, but he broke his thumb trying

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

Gallo wanted to give you a thumbs up, be he broke his thumb trying

whoops wrong photo... but still effective

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

Gallo wanted to give you a thumbs up, be he broke his thumb trying

whoops wrong photo... but still effective

Not really Supreme. Dont want to relitigate the Melo trade, since the two biggest chips we sent to Denver couldn't stay on the floor.

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

Gallo wanted to give you a thumbs up, be he broke his thumb trying

whoops wrong photo... but still effective

Not really Supreme. Dont want to relitigate the Melo trade, since the two biggest chips we sent to Denver couldn't stay on the floor.

Okay cool... I actually meant to cut in paste a photo from a Luc Longley image search... Google Images is racist

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

Gallo wanted to give you a thumbs up, be he broke his thumb trying

whoops wrong photo... but still effective

Not really Supreme. Dont want to relitigate the Melo trade, since the two biggest chips we sent to Denver couldn't stay on the floor.

Okay cool... I actually meant to cut in paste a photo from a Luc Longley image search... Google Images is racist

Got it, lol.

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

Gallo wanted to give you a thumbs up, be he broke his thumb trying

whoops wrong photo... but still effective

Not really Supreme. Dont want to relitigate the Melo trade, since the two biggest chips we sent to Denver couldn't stay on the floor.

Okay cool... I actually meant to cut in paste a photo from a Luc Longley image search... Google Images is racist

Got it, lol.

I actually just removed the photo for the reason you just stated... I don't want to have that conversation -- again

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:ESPN is saying that the Knicks are willing to trade Melo to the Clippers for players that aren't a part of the big three... that is a bunch of average-to-below average. If we're not getting back a bunch of picks my head is going to explode. Fuck Bargnani

Yeah, THAT would be a disaster.

If we dont get cap relief and decent draft picks, it sounds like the Ewing trade. If Phil can pull off a good deal, I believe he will have a lot more leeway with the fans, especially if he's really interested in building around Porzingis, and not just another Knicks quick fix.

Gallo wanted to give you a thumbs up, be he broke his thumb trying

whoops wrong photo... but still effective

Not really Supreme. Dont want to relitigate the Melo trade, since the two biggest chips we sent to Denver couldn't stay on the floor.

Okay cool... I actually meant to cut in paste a photo from a Luc Longley image search... Google Images is racist

Got it, lol.

I actually just removed the photo for the reason you just stated... I don't want to have that conversation -- again

What picture?

Welpee wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:A deal I like is Rondo and MCW for Melo and Jennings. Melo goes to play with Wade and Butler. Plays the 4 his best spot. Bulls definitely make the playoffs. He wanted to go to Chicago in 2014. Chicago would neeed to add more contracts than Rondo and MCW.

And this benefits the Knicks in what way?

MS wrote:Boston is the only team that makes real sense.

Crowder, Bradley, Johnson for Melo, KOQ and Holiday makes sense from our side, not sure it does on their side. Getting guys on smart contracts like that we might be inclined to include a pick.

We need to get younger in the backcourt, then start flipping pieces, shut down KP to 20 minutes a night, get Willy some time and look to move Jennnings. Courtney Lee could easily be moved to the clippers for reddick and a draft selection since his contract would be below market and they could reroute him elsewhere for a late pick or another expiring.

Having - KP, Willy, Crowder, Bradley would be a nice start. Get aggressive in free agency, if not be patient for another season.

Why would the Clips prefer Lee over Reddick?

Defense

Kemet wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:This is the trade the knicks should go for with the clips

Melo for rivers,perice,reddick

PP retiring and JJ are UFA after this year this opens up a lot of $ for the off season. We can go after a top FA this off season and if we tank we can get a top 5 pick.

KP,Noah
Willy,KOQ
Kuz,Lee,PP
JJ,rivers,holiday
Rose,Jennings,Rivers

It's a fresh start to truly build around KP next year and rivers is a solid young player

Next year rose, Jennings, JJ, PP all off the books

2018

KP,Noah
Willy,KOQ
Kuz,Lee
Rivers,holiday,baker
top 5 pick,baker

I don't think the Knicks are attracting any marquee free agents the way this has been handled. The marquee guys don't leave anyway. Look at what happened to the Nets. I don't know what this looks like but if Phil comes away with the proposed Clip package only Dolan should fire him on the spot.

Let's not forget this gives KP the rains and gives us the ability to run the offense through him not melo ... this turns KP into the super star we all know he is . He will make everyone around him better, he's a 7'3 monster no one can stop top FA will want to team up with KP more so then melo.

He is having a horrible run right now and it has been for awhile. His shooting, d, rebounding etc has been really bad. He also can't set a screen so moving him to the 5 doesn't work. He has the potential to be that guy eventually but I think he needs to be the second or third guy on a team at this point.

All young guys aren't ready to lead but they learn on the fly. We will be bad but that's ok. He's not playing well but it has been because of injury so we know he will turn it back around soon. Amazing how down people are on him. He was putting up big numbers before he got hurt.

Yes 100% agree, I think KP flourishes as the go to guy. He's looks depressed playing second/third fiddle to melo and rose sometimes only taking 11 shots!!! What the f u c k KP should be dominant taking at least 15 plus shots a game he should be our go to guy not melo. Some times he doesn't even take a shot till the second quarter. WHAT ! Sometimes we don't run a play for KP for most of the game WHAT ??! KP has the potential to be the greatest knick of all time. Like Tim Duncan was to the spurs KP should be for the knicks .. the fact that we have such a dominant talent as KP and we don't run the offense through him is a travesty. Melo is a star talent but by all means at best is a second/maybe third option on a real offense esp a offense that has a supior talent to him in KP and even rose has more talent then melo...melo ether has to except that he's not the main man anymore or be ok with being traded because melo as option number one dose not work it hasn't for years ...... this is KP's team melo get in line or get the f u c k outta New York .

KP has not showed any type of winning talent .. some people need to stop the HYPE of a raw 7.3 wing player who's clueless about several talents like passing, scoring in the low-post, and boxing-out for the rebound.
KP need a big-man coach (Patrick Ewing) to raise his shooting percentage way above 38%, plus show him the 3 to 4 step move in dominating the paint-glass with his long arms.

Lebron said it best bout Carmelo Anthony .. Melo is a controlling PLAY-MAKER that has always upset his teammate PG to not wanting to get on the court with Melo.
I recall Rose n Jennings in the lineup and Melo keep bringing the ball upcourt to call a play for Melo.

No one is overhyping him or expecting him to know EVERYTHING at 21 years old. He is well ahead of schedule and has huge potential to be a game-changing, franchise player. But i don't think you will find anyone who says he is anywhere near that yet.

GustavBahler wrote:ESPN is saying Boston turned them down and Clips want Lee, not Melo.

sold

Clips receive
Melo
Semaj Christon

OKC receive
Blake Griffin
Kyle O'Quinn
Ray Felton
N'dour

Knicks receive
Kanter
Cameron Payne
Brice Johnson
Diamond Stone
Clips 2021 first round pick

Justification: Blake will be a free agent, no guarantee Clips can resign him, gotta believe he has major long term interest in OKC his hometown and playing with Westbrook. OKC needs a 2nd star to ensure Westbrook says. OKC being able to sign big time free agents is remote. Clips trying to win now during CP3s prime window, Melo would probably waive no trade. Though I don't like Kanter we have to accept a major contract to move Melo. O'Quinn fills void of losing Kanter plus they already have Adams. Payne and Johnson are young assets. Stone and N'dour just filler to make money work. Trade accepted on ESPN's trade machine.

Slam away. lol