Knicks · Pippen says Phil is to blame and more on, The Jump (page 1)
yellowboy90 wrote:Vmart wrote:Blame game. Everyone needs to cut the crap. It's hard to win in NY when the players have an agenda that opposes team ball. You want to blame Phil go ahead blame him but the true of the situation is the Knicks sucked well before Phil got here. Phil knows even if the Knicks make the playoffs there absolutely no chance they win a championship.I don't blame Phil at all he has nothing to work with. All he has been doing is increasing the talent pool and you guys can't handle it. I am so convinced the majority of the win now fans will fuck shyt up. The Knicks future lies in the draft. Think Patrick Ewing and Mark Jackson that is when it got exciting for the Knicks. Think KP with Ball you guys aren't seeing the big picture.
Scottie Pippen come out the wood works don't know shyt about the Knicks situation probably still pissed Kukoc took the last shot.
SO phil knows the best way is to build is through the draft but yet he continues to construct win now teams that fail. SO basically he is succeeding because he is so bad at his job that his poor performance is roster construction is leading to great draft position.
holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:It's fine for these guys to give their opinions on the Knicks. I don't give a flip what they think tho. I really hope Melo decides to ask for a trade so he can get away from this situation and we can move on with trying to build a better team. It's best for both parties.
Yeah, playing the game great and analyzing the game are separate and probably completely or almost completely unrelated. It's more like the difference between being a construction worker (even a great one) and an architect who designs houses.
That said, Phil deserves all the blame he gets and it's clearly not an either/or with Melo and him.Right..A professional basketball player doesn't know what he is seeing when it comes to basketball but some journalism student is in the know..
He knows a lot about how to get to the rim, pass to the open teammate, etc when he's on the court. I've not seen any evidence that corresponds to designing teams. Tons of great players have been terrible GMs and great GMs never even played professionally.He has forgeten more about basketball than you will ever know...he has been playing all his life, know defenses and offense most non playing analyst have never seen...No one is talking about being a GM..I'm talking about understanding the game from a player's standpoint...Phil is a terrible GM and is a great coach...But I would trust a player's opinion over most in any sport...
Says the guy who wants a team full of guys like Melo, Rose, and DeMarcus Cousins.
It looks like Pippen's actual quote wasn't posted but if he was implying that Melo being a problem and Phil being a problem were mutually exclusive, that doesn't pass basic logic.
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:It's fine for these guys to give their opinions on the Knicks. I don't give a flip what they think tho. I really hope Melo decides to ask for a trade so he can get away from this situation and we can move on with trying to build a better team. It's best for both parties.
Yeah, playing the game great and analyzing the game are separate and probably completely or almost completely unrelated. It's more like the difference between being a construction worker (even a great one) and an architect who designs houses.
That said, Phil deserves all the blame he gets and it's clearly not an either/or with Melo and him.Right..A professional basketball player doesn't know what he is seeing when it comes to basketball but some journalism student is in the know..
He knows a lot about how to get to the rim, pass to the open teammate, etc when he's on the court. I've not seen any evidence that corresponds to designing teams. Tons of great players have been terrible GMs and great GMs never even played professionally.He has forgeten more about basketball than you will ever know...he has been playing all his life, know defenses and offense most non playing analyst have never seen...No one is talking about being a GM..I'm talking about understanding the game from a player's standpoint...Phil is a terrible GM and is a great coach...But I would trust a player's opinion over most in any sport...
Says the guy who wants a team full of guys like Melo, Rose, and DeMarcus Cousins.
It looks like Pippen's actual quote wasn't posted but if he was implying that Melo being a problem and Phil being a problem were mutually exclusive, that doesn't pass basic logic.
Although, on second thought, it's not clear what he means from that statement. He didn't say anything positive about Melo. It could be interpreted as him saying Phil should go first and Melo should go second.
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:It's fine for these guys to give their opinions on the Knicks. I don't give a flip what they think tho. I really hope Melo decides to ask for a trade so he can get away from this situation and we can move on with trying to build a better team. It's best for both parties.
Yeah, playing the game great and analyzing the game are separate and probably completely or almost completely unrelated. It's more like the difference between being a construction worker (even a great one) and an architect who designs houses.
That said, Phil deserves all the blame he gets and it's clearly not an either/or with Melo and him.Right..A professional basketball player doesn't know what he is seeing when it comes to basketball but some journalism student is in the know..
He knows a lot about how to get to the rim, pass to the open teammate, etc when he's on the court. I've not seen any evidence that corresponds to designing teams. Tons of great players have been terrible GMs and great GMs never even played professionally.He has forgeten more about basketball than you will ever know...he has been playing all his life, know defenses and offense most non playing analyst have never seen...No one is talking about being a GM..I'm talking about understanding the game from a player's standpoint...Phil is a terrible GM and is a great coach...But I would trust a player's opinion over most in any sport...
Says the guy who wants a team full of guys like Melo, Rose, and DeMarcus Cousins.
It looks like Pippen's actual quote wasn't posted but if he was implying that Melo being a problem and Phil being a problem were mutually exclusive, that doesn't pass basic logic.
Your logic? Where did anyone post where Pippen said Melo was the problem..That's is your personal insertion..Look at the video yourself..
holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:It's fine for these guys to give their opinions on the Knicks. I don't give a flip what they think tho. I really hope Melo decides to ask for a trade so he can get away from this situation and we can move on with trying to build a better team. It's best for both parties.
Yeah, playing the game great and analyzing the game are separate and probably completely or almost completely unrelated. It's more like the difference between being a construction worker (even a great one) and an architect who designs houses.
That said, Phil deserves all the blame he gets and it's clearly not an either/or with Melo and him.Right..A professional basketball player doesn't know what he is seeing when it comes to basketball but some journalism student is in the know..
He knows a lot about how to get to the rim, pass to the open teammate, etc when he's on the court. I've not seen any evidence that corresponds to designing teams. Tons of great players have been terrible GMs and great GMs never even played professionally.He has forgeten more about basketball than you will ever know...he has been playing all his life, know defenses and offense most non playing analyst have never seen...No one is talking about being a GM..I'm talking about understanding the game from a player's standpoint...Phil is a terrible GM and is a great coach...But I would trust a player's opinion over most in any sport...
Says the guy who wants a team full of guys like Melo, Rose, and DeMarcus Cousins.
It looks like Pippen's actual quote wasn't posted but if he was implying that Melo being a problem and Phil being a problem were mutually exclusive, that doesn't pass basic logic.
Your logic? Where did anyone post where Pippen said Melo was the problem..That's is your personal insertion..Look at the video yourself..
You lost me. I didn't say he said Melo was the problem. I don't know what he said. I clicked on the link and nothing came up. What did he say in the video? Did he actually say anything positive about Melo? Or is he just saying Phil should go first and Melo should go second?
Bonn1997 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:It's fine for these guys to give their opinions on the Knicks. I don't give a flip what they think tho. I really hope Melo decides to ask for a trade so he can get away from this situation and we can move on with trying to build a better team. It's best for both parties.
Yeah, playing the game great and analyzing the game are separate and probably completely or almost completely unrelated. It's more like the difference between being a construction worker (even a great one) and an architect who designs houses.
That said, Phil deserves all the blame he gets and it's clearly not an either/or with Melo and him.Right..A professional basketball player doesn't know what he is seeing when it comes to basketball but some journalism student is in the know..
He knows a lot about how to get to the rim, pass to the open teammate, etc when he's on the court. I've not seen any evidence that corresponds to designing teams. Tons of great players have been terrible GMs and great GMs never even played professionally.He has forgeten more about basketball than you will ever know...he has been playing all his life, know defenses and offense most non playing analyst have never seen...No one is talking about being a GM..I'm talking about understanding the game from a player's standpoint...Phil is a terrible GM and is a great coach...But I would trust a player's opinion over most in any sport...
Says the guy who wants a team full of guys like Melo, Rose, and DeMarcus Cousins.
It looks like Pippen's actual quote wasn't posted but if he was implying that Melo being a problem and Phil being a problem were mutually exclusive, that doesn't pass basic logic.
Although, on second thought, it's not clear what he means from that statement. He didn't say anything positive about Melo. It could be interpreted as him saying Phil should go first and Melo should go second.
You are making things up that isn't an accurate reflection of what occurred..Why not look at the video..
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:It's fine for these guys to give their opinions on the Knicks. I don't give a flip what they think tho. I really hope Melo decides to ask for a trade so he can get away from this situation and we can move on with trying to build a better team. It's best for both parties.
Yeah, playing the game great and analyzing the game are separate and probably completely or almost completely unrelated. It's more like the difference between being a construction worker (even a great one) and an architect who designs houses.
That said, Phil deserves all the blame he gets and it's clearly not an either/or with Melo and him.Right..A professional basketball player doesn't know what he is seeing when it comes to basketball but some journalism student is in the know..
He knows a lot about how to get to the rim, pass to the open teammate, etc when he's on the court. I've not seen any evidence that corresponds to designing teams. Tons of great players have been terrible GMs and great GMs never even played professionally.He has forgeten more about basketball than you will ever know...he has been playing all his life, know defenses and offense most non playing analyst have never seen...No one is talking about being a GM..I'm talking about understanding the game from a player's standpoint...Phil is a terrible GM and is a great coach...But I would trust a player's opinion over most in any sport...
Says the guy who wants a team full of guys like Melo, Rose, and DeMarcus Cousins.
It looks like Pippen's actual quote wasn't posted but if he was implying that Melo being a problem and Phil being a problem were mutually exclusive, that doesn't pass basic logic.
Your logic? Where did anyone post where Pippen said Melo was the problem..That's is your personal insertion..Look at the video yourself..You lost me. I didn't say he said Melo was the problem. I don't know what he said. I clicked on the link and nothing came up. What did he say in the video? Did he actually say anything positive about Melo? Or is he just saying Phil should go first and Melo should go second?
He said the problem in New York is not Melo but it's Phil...He said has been the problem since coming to NY...Phil has not put the right pieces on the court..He said Melo has been great given the circumstances..He said he feels bad that Melo had to deal with this...He said Melo should stay in NY and Phil should be fired..
holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:It's fine for these guys to give their opinions on the Knicks. I don't give a flip what they think tho. I really hope Melo decides to ask for a trade so he can get away from this situation and we can move on with trying to build a better team. It's best for both parties.
Yeah, playing the game great and analyzing the game are separate and probably completely or almost completely unrelated. It's more like the difference between being a construction worker (even a great one) and an architect who designs houses.
That said, Phil deserves all the blame he gets and it's clearly not an either/or with Melo and him.Right..A professional basketball player doesn't know what he is seeing when it comes to basketball but some journalism student is in the know..
He knows a lot about how to get to the rim, pass to the open teammate, etc when he's on the court. I've not seen any evidence that corresponds to designing teams. Tons of great players have been terrible GMs and great GMs never even played professionally.He has forgeten more about basketball than you will ever know...he has been playing all his life, know defenses and offense most non playing analyst have never seen...No one is talking about being a GM..I'm talking about understanding the game from a player's standpoint...Phil is a terrible GM and is a great coach...But I would trust a player's opinion over most in any sport...
Says the guy who wants a team full of guys like Melo, Rose, and DeMarcus Cousins.
It looks like Pippen's actual quote wasn't posted but if he was implying that Melo being a problem and Phil being a problem were mutually exclusive, that doesn't pass basic logic.
Your logic? Where did anyone post where Pippen said Melo was the problem..That's is your personal insertion..Look at the video yourself..You lost me. I didn't say he said Melo was the problem. I don't know what he said. I clicked on the link and nothing came up. What did he say in the video? Did he actually say anything positive about Melo? Or is he just saying Phil should go first and Melo should go second?
He said the problem in New York is not Melo but it's Phil...He said has been the problem since coming to NY...Phil has not put the right pieces on the court..He said Melo has been great given the circumstances..He said he feels bad that Melo had to deal with this...He said Melo should start in NY and Phil should be fired..
Fair enough. I'd give that about the same weight as Shaq's or Barkley's opinions.