Knicks · I'm not a long term buyer of RJ's high level potential/talent (page 6)

Chandler @ 1/21/2021 7:45 AM
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

SupremeCommander @ 1/21/2021 8:05 AM
Martin.. wuhhhhhh..?

Okay, he needs a better shot... okay, he may not be as good as Zion or Ja... that said the guy can play and he has a diverse skillet. Look at the strides he made with his FT%. When his shoe becomes average, he is going to have what we can a “complete game”

martin @ 1/21/2021 1:05 PM
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.

franco12 @ 1/21/2021 1:11 PM
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.

Martin - if that is the point - then yea - I agree- I don't see RJ as the talent that brings us to the finals - those are rare.

BigDaddyG @ 1/21/2021 1:18 PM
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.


If you asked me last year if we should trade RJ, I would've said he's off the table in 99.9 % of the deals offered. I don't feel that way anymore. Realistically, I couldn't see RJ starting on a championship contender right now. Can he still be good? Sure, but I think top 50 player in the league is his ultimate ceiling. That's cool and I don't consider it being a bust, but it's not enough to stop me if someone like Zach Lavine becomes available.
Knixkik @ 1/21/2021 1:30 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.


If you asked me last year if we should trade RJ, I would've said he's off the table in 99.9 % of the deals offered. I don't feel that way anymore. Realistically, I couldn't see RJ starting on a championship contender right now. Can he still be good? Sure, but I think top 50 player in the league is his ultimate ceiling. That's cool and I don't consider it being a bust, but it's not enough to stop me if someone like Zach Lavine becomes available.

Barrett has far and away the best on-off points percentage per 100 possessions on the team. There's metrics that say he's the team's most valuable player. People these days get way too hung up in true shooting % and such. It's about impact, which Barrett, at age 20, is highly impactful on a team that is currently not too bad.

jskinny35 @ 1/21/2021 2:09 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.


If you asked me last year if we should trade RJ, I would've said he's off the table in 99.9 % of the deals offered. I don't feel that way anymore. Realistically, I couldn't see RJ starting on a championship contender right now. Can he still be good? Sure, but I think top 50 player in the league is his ultimate ceiling. That's cool and I don't consider it being a bust, but it's not enough to stop me if someone like Zach Lavine becomes available.


Don't know how true the various rumors are but I see lots of posts/rumors suggesting obtaining Zach Lavine wouldn't take as much as the others. Ideally we could pair him with RJ as Zach is a decent outside shooter and can handle the ball a lot. I wouldn't give up RJ for Zach ideally as I'd rather wait to see if Booker wants out of Phx.

foosballnick @ 1/21/2021 2:54 PM
Interesting that Knick fans hang in there for year after year while the team has stunk it up. But when it comes to individual younger players, they are so damn impatient. I've started to see comparisons/talk of RJ's upside to Jimmy Butler - who certainly can fit into at least the 1B category of player. Look at Butler's 1st 3 years (he was a rookie at 22) compared to RJ so far (starting at 19). The kid is smart, crafty, humble, focused and a hard worker. I'll continue to hang in there with him and think he will turn out to be a 1B on a very good team.
BigDaddyG @ 1/21/2021 3:12 PM
jskinny35 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.


If you asked me last year if we should trade RJ, I would've said he's off the table in 99.9 % of the deals offered. I don't feel that way anymore. Realistically, I couldn't see RJ starting on a championship contender right now. Can he still be good? Sure, but I think top 50 player in the league is his ultimate ceiling. That's cool and I don't consider it being a bust, but it's not enough to stop me if someone like Zach Lavine becomes available.


Don't know how true the various rumors are but I see lots of posts/rumors suggesting obtaining Zach Lavine wouldn't take as much as the others. Ideally we could pair him with RJ as Zach is a decent outside shooter and can handle the ball a lot. I wouldn't give up RJ for Zach ideally as I'd rather wait to see if Booker wants out of Phx.

I can see that. My point is I don't consider RJ as untouchable. I'm not actively shopping him, but I'm not immediately hanging up the phone if another team inquires about his availability.

BigDaddyG @ 1/21/2021 3:15 PM
foosballnick wrote:Interesting that Knick fans hang in there for year after year while the team has stunk it up. But when it comes to individual younger players, they are so damn impatient. I've started to see comparisons/talk of RJ's upside to Jimmy Butler - who certainly can fit into at least the 1B category of player. Look at Butler's 1st 3 years (he was a rookie at 22) compared to RJ so far (starting at 19). The kid is smart, crafty, humble, focused and a hard worker. I'll continue to hang in there with him and think he will turn out to be a 1B on a very good team.

I mean upside is nice. It also means that a player has reached that level yet and might never get there. He might turn into a 1B. He might turn into a frontline starter. I remember people saying the same thing about Andrew WIggins.
BigDaddyG @ 1/21/2021 3:18 PM
Knixkik wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.


If you asked me last year if we should trade RJ, I would've said he's off the table in 99.9 % of the deals offered. I don't feel that way anymore. Realistically, I couldn't see RJ starting on a championship contender right now. Can he still be good? Sure, but I think top 50 player in the league is his ultimate ceiling. That's cool and I don't consider it being a bust, but it's not enough to stop me if someone like Zach Lavine becomes available.

Barrett has far and away the best on-off points percentage per 100 possessions on the team. There's metrics that say he's the team's most valuable player. People these days get way too hung up in true shooting % and such. It's about impact, which Barrett, at age 20, is highly impactful on a team that is currently not too bad.

I'm gonna trust my eyes on this one. Randle is clearly the most valuable player on this team.

jskinny35 @ 1/21/2021 3:26 PM
Randle is clearly the most productive player on our team at the moment - no question. A better question for a team would be - if we were to swap Randle for a Zach Lavine - would we improve overall? Would RJ play better with more spacing, would a Lavine offer similar production and help open up spacing for the others? Would passing and ball movement increase? Would Toppin be able to contribute if given some minutes alongside Mitch? Would Mitch finally shoot outside of 3 feet? Lots of unknowns I suppose... I'd like to find out though!
jskinny35 @ 1/21/2021 3:31 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
jskinny35 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:

I recognize it's still early but....

Can't blow by his defender
Nothing special defensively
So far can't shoot
Average passer? I can't tell

Martin I almost universally agree with and like your posts but not this one.

He rebounds very well. Drives to the rim which is great for the team for many reasons. As he starts to draw fouls that will be more important than 3s. He plays good D and has versatility there. And he’s a willing multiple effort defender which is important on team d. And he’s poised and smart

Why does he need to blow by a defender? There are many ways to be effective on offense without doing that which is a specialty of smaller speedier guys who have their own flaws like lack of size and versatility on D and who can’t rebound worth shit

It’s not that he’s above criticism. He needs to improve his shooting. But I think you’re being too critical. His ft% is improving and that will be critical to his and team improvement. Personally even though it’s against analytics and modern nba I’d like to see more midrange from him ala Reggie Lewis of Celts of yesteryear. He’s taking way too many 3s at the moment

I hope I was able to convey my barometer and line of judgement with Barrett in the OP, it's a high one and that is my perspective. On a championship level team (give or take) you need at least 2 guys who are high level and then maybe a 3rd type dude. Right now I don't see Barrett as either a 1a or 1b type player, he could certainly fill that 3rd type player. I hope I am wrong but I'm seeing too many flaws in his game to project him to a high level guy.

You don't need elite athleticism to be successful but you need to make it up in other areas while having the smarts that high level players just need to be successful (amongst a lot of other things), I just dont see enough from RJ. He is going to get better, he will work hard and persist in things, but the natural talent is just not there IMHO.


If you asked me last year if we should trade RJ, I would've said he's off the table in 99.9 % of the deals offered. I don't feel that way anymore. Realistically, I couldn't see RJ starting on a championship contender right now. Can he still be good? Sure, but I think top 50 player in the league is his ultimate ceiling. That's cool and I don't consider it being a bust, but it's not enough to stop me if someone like Zach Lavine becomes available.


Don't know how true the various rumors are but I see lots of posts/rumors suggesting obtaining Zach Lavine wouldn't take as much as the others. Ideally we could pair him with RJ as Zach is a decent outside shooter and can handle the ball a lot. I wouldn't give up RJ for Zach ideally as I'd rather wait to see if Booker wants out of Phx.

I can see that. My point is I don't consider RJ as untouchable. I'm not actively shopping him, but I'm not immediately hanging up the phone if another team inquires about his availability.

I hear you and agree - nobody's really untouchable. I'd trade RJ and stuff for Booker anytime. I defend RJ somewhat because every other rookie/young player we've had in the last 10 years has either wilted under all the mismanagement, has been overhyped and/or not shown a quality work ethic. I truly see RJ as a Jimmy Butler type in that he can be paired as a 1B and fit perfectly. I think Randle could also be a 1B in the right situation, but he would have to be on a team with knockdown shooters like Miami or Milwaukee. I don't think the spacing allows for Randle and RJ to bring out the best in both - so I'm choosing the 20 year old that seems to play better defense vs the 26 who is currently overachieving in my opinion. Better than last year for sure!

Chandler @ 1/21/2021 3:33 PM
all i can say is tough crowd.

let's see how things develop. I see a guy whose game is and will continue to improve and he does some pretty heady, if not flashy, things.

his shooting needs improvement but he's doing things that many "stars" don't and can't do even now.

Uptown @ 1/21/2021 6:13 PM
Gotta give him his props when its due...Nice bounce back...hopefully he continues to play with this same level of confidence. Love the way he's hitting the glass!

blkexec @ 1/22/2021 12:28 AM
PUT SOME RESPECT ON HIS NAME
joec32033 @ 1/22/2021 12:50 AM
Why is it only in NY players are crap if they aren't the best player in the league? It happens all the time.

To me RJ looks like a guy that can be a 1a on a playoff team but he isn't going to take you to a championship by himself, just like 99.99999% of the players in this league. Dude reminds me of a player in the Danny Granger/Paul Pierce/Paul George/Scottie Pippen mold. Pierce was a hall of famer and in his prime Granger was one of the top wings in the league. George was a top wing and Pippen was Pippin. All of these guys ranged from really good to great on playoff teams by themselves ,but the needed help to get to that next level. There is nothing wrong with that.

Guys like him are guys you hold onto because even the guys you would trade him for wouldn't get you to that next level by themselves.

So far I'm watching him initiate the offense more, play lockdown defense, improved shooting.
I can see him reach a 20-5-5 level. His rebounding is already there. His scoring is getting there and his passing is improved or at the very least more evident. You can count on one hand the number of players in this league whose presence gets you to a conference finals/nba finals appearance. LeBron is one. Durant is maybe another. Who else? RJ isn't the best player in the league. He probably isn't going to be but from the looks of his intangibles and the improvement curve I see, he can well be really damn good.

What makes a guys like Booker and Lavine so much better? They score 26, 27 points a game? Let's be honest, if we ever got them, in a week both guys would be one dimensional scoring machines that we would try and post trades for someone else.

technomaster @ 1/22/2021 1:01 AM
RJ set a career high with 28 points tonight.

Over his past 5 (dating back to the loss to the Nets)
21.8 ppg
6.4 rpg
3.6 apg
51.4% FG
38.9% 3pt (3.6 3pt attempts/gm)
86.7% FT (6 FTA/gm)

His overall efficiency has been quite good - getting to the line a lot and shooting quite well all around. What's encouraging is that he's not forcing shots - these numbers are generally in the flow of the offense.

ramtour420 @ 1/22/2021 2:01 AM
technomaster wrote:RJ set a career high with 28 points tonight.

Over his past 5 (dating back to the loss to the Nets)
21.8 ppg
6.4 rpg
3.6 apg
51.4% FG
38.9% 3pt (3.6 3pt attempts/gm)
86.7% FT (6 FTA/gm)

His overall efficiency has been quite good - getting to the line a lot and shooting quite well all around. What's encouraging is that he's not forcing shots - these numbers are generally in the flow of the offense.

It really shows that he has worked on his game this off-season. Who would have thunk that he might turn out to be a 50/40/90 player.

blkexec @ 1/22/2021 6:41 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
technomaster wrote:RJ set a career high with 28 points tonight.

Over his past 5 (dating back to the loss to the Nets)
21.8 ppg
6.4 rpg
3.6 apg
51.4% FG
38.9% 3pt (3.6 3pt attempts/gm)
86.7% FT (6 FTA/gm)

His overall efficiency has been quite good - getting to the line a lot and shooting quite well all around. What's encouraging is that he's not forcing shots - these numbers are generally in the flow of the offense.

It really shows that he has worked on his game this off-season. Who would have thunk that he might turn out to be a 50/40/90 player.

Yep....I believe this is the reason him and Randle are getting the most mins. I could be wrong....What I do know? They both came into camp with a chip on their shoulders....and in shape....and it shows. But RJ is a gym rat, with a mamba personality. Which is somebody who wants to be great and also has the work ethic to achieve it. Regardless if he reaches that level or not. Knicks will recieve the fruits of his labor, during his run to greatness.

Am I saying he will be great? I dont know, its too early. But I do know, he will continue to work on his weaknesses and strive to be great, while growing into a young 20 yr old leader of men.

fishmike @ 1/22/2021 8:55 AM
blkexec wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
technomaster wrote:RJ set a career high with 28 points tonight.

Over his past 5 (dating back to the loss to the Nets)
21.8 ppg
6.4 rpg
3.6 apg
51.4% FG
38.9% 3pt (3.6 3pt attempts/gm)
86.7% FT (6 FTA/gm)

His overall efficiency has been quite good - getting to the line a lot and shooting quite well all around. What's encouraging is that he's not forcing shots - these numbers are generally in the flow of the offense.

It really shows that he has worked on his game this off-season. Who would have thunk that he might turn out to be a 50/40/90 player.

Yep....I believe this is the reason him and Randle are getting the most mins. I could be wrong....What I do know? They both came into camp with a chip on their shoulders....and in shape....and it shows. But RJ is a gym rat, with a mamba personality. Which is somebody who wants to be great and also has the work ethic to achieve it. Regardless if he reaches that level or not. Knicks will recieve the fruits of his labor, during his run to greatness.

Am I saying he will be great? I dont know, its too early. But I do know, he will continue to work on his weaknesses and strive to be great, while growing into a young 20 yr old leader of men.

I love how he plays. He's a big strong guard and his ability to use the glass and make nice passes around the basket is legit. His defense is always good. He fights over screen. He's one of Thib's favorite players for all the right reasons.

RJ at age 20 is giving you 18ppg 7rebs 3.5assists, is a 2-way player, leads the NBA in minutes and the team is winning. It quiet a lovely combo

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