Knicks · Fire Thibs (page 73)

martin @ 5/17/2025 8:10 AM
blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:

That jumpsuit is FIRE THIBS

You got the punctuation wrong?

I got you: That jumpsuit is FIRE, THIBS

ramtour420 @ 5/17/2025 8:41 AM
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

DLeethal @ 5/17/2025 8:43 AM
Last night was the team of the early season with 4 guys dropping 20+. That’s when this team is so dangerous. Brunson did a great job finding shooters last night. We probably shot more corner 3s than the rest of the series combined. That’s the easiest “tell” of great offensive process. Corner 3 attempts and (for us) Towns 3 attempts. That means we’re getting in the paint and flipping the ball around.
VDesai @ 5/17/2025 9:14 AM
Yes we hunted 3s last night. Brunson went to the step back more than I have seen in a long time. Took us 10 games, but we finally attempted more 3s in a game than the Celtics.
EwingsGlass @ 5/17/2025 9:42 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Agreed. Everyone got a chance to eat. Looked like they had rip curls running for OG. Got Hart some corner 3s. Bridges was getting more ball handling opportunities early. Mitch got some passes that he couldnt handle, but probably wasn’t expecting them. And KAT was fed in the post and given green light from three. Brunson got his closer role. It felt better. Even if they had a tough time vs the Celts D, it felt like the right way to play. And it should work well against Indiana since they lack the length Boston has.

fishmike @ 5/17/2025 12:00 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"
fishmike @ 5/17/2025 12:06 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Agreed. Everyone got a chance to eat. Looked like they had rip curls running for OG. Got Hart some corner 3s. Bridges was getting more ball handling opportunities early. Mitch got some passes that he couldnt handle, but probably wasn’t expecting them. And KAT was fed in the post and given green light from three. Brunson got his closer role. It felt better. Even if they had a tough time vs the Celts D, it felt like the right way to play. And it should work well against Indiana since they lack the length Boston has.

to be fair this is Boston. We are running a lot of the same action, but Boston was spent. We got a lot of good looks for misses early in the series, especially from the wings. Boston played the elite defense they are known for an it showed. Knicks ALSO played elite defense and that showed as well. Boston shot their load in game 5. Once the Knicks started hitting shots AND beating them up on the boards and in the paint it was over early. Phucking thing of beauty

I would say Thibs outcoached Joe but it wasnt drastic. End of the day we executed in crunch time and simply played better. Both coaches tried different things with some success and won games. Down 0-2 and losing Tatum down 1-3 equals "not your year"

Knicks are getting STRONGER

ramtour420 @ 5/17/2025 12:45 PM
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"

That's the only reason i write my gems

ToddTT @ 5/17/2025 12:50 PM
fishmike wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Agreed. Everyone got a chance to eat. Looked like they had rip curls running for OG. Got Hart some corner 3s. Bridges was getting more ball handling opportunities early. Mitch got some passes that he couldnt handle, but probably wasn’t expecting them. And KAT was fed in the post and given green light from three. Brunson got his closer role. It felt better. Even if they had a tough time vs the Celts D, it felt like the right way to play. And it should work well against Indiana since they lack the length Boston has.

to be fair this is Boston. We are running a lot of the same action, but Boston was spent. We got a lot of good looks for misses early in the series, especially from the wings. Boston played the elite defense they are known for an it showed. Knicks ALSO played elite defense and that showed as well. Boston shot their load in game 5. Once the Knicks started hitting shots AND beating them up on the boards and in the paint it was over early. Phucking thing of beauty

I would say Thibs outcoached Joe but it wasnt drastic. End of the day we executed in crunch time and simply played better. Both coaches tried different things with some success and won games. Down 0-2 and losing Tatum down 1-3 equals "not your year"

Knicks are getting STRONGER

EwingsGlass @ 5/17/2025 12:57 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"

That's the only reason in write my gems

If he is reading now, I’d like to see a 4-1 motion offense originating with KAT out of the high post under the directive to read the defense and make right play - not just shoot. Zen like Jokic.

Hart screening for OG out of the corner. Rip curl while Brunson simultaneously rotates out of the weak side for a possible handoff. Get OG in motion off the curl and if that doesn’t work revert to Brunson’s double screen with KAT pulling out for the “pop”. Bridges in the weak side corner should be trusted to read the play and timely cut to either get to the rim or clear out weak side corner to let KAT dominate that side of the floor if Brunson picks up a double from Hart’s man.

Hart should always be bring the ball upon transition.

GustavBahler @ 5/17/2025 1:02 PM
martin wrote:
blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:

That jumpsuit is FIRE THIBS

You got the punctuation wrong?

I got you: That jumpsuit is FIRE, THIBS

"Hey Tommy, did you see the guy about the thing?"

fishmike @ 5/17/2025 2:10 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"

That's the only reason in write my gems

If he is reading now, I’d like to see a 4-1 motion offense originating with KAT out of the high post under the directive to read the defense and make right play - not just shoot. Zen like Jokic.

Hart screening for OG out of the corner. Rip curl while Brunson simultaneously rotates out of the weak side for a possible handoff. Get OG in motion off the curl and if that doesn’t work revert to Brunson’s double screen with KAT pulling out for the “pop”. Bridges in the weak side corner should be trusted to read the play and timely cut to either get to the rim or clear out weak side corner to let KAT dominate that side of the floor if Brunson picks up a double from Hart’s man.

Hart should always be bring the ball upon transition.

motion offense... you want our guys who are already playing a ton to run around more? How about we give our guys a breather and let a couple of best iso basketball players get some easy buckets so we can continue to fly around on defense. Why? Cause it's more fun for you to watch? We have two of the highest gravity players in the league and you want to dish it around and have guys running around.

They DO do that... late in games after time outs with like 40 seconds to go

ramtour420 @ 5/17/2025 3:27 PM
fishmike wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"

That's the only reason in write my gems

If he is reading now, I’d like to see a 4-1 motion offense originating with KAT out of the high post under the directive to read the defense and make right play - not just shoot. Zen like Jokic.

Hart screening for OG out of the corner. Rip curl while Brunson simultaneously rotates out of the weak side for a possible handoff. Get OG in motion off the curl and if that doesn’t work revert to Brunson’s double screen with KAT pulling out for the “pop”. Bridges in the weak side corner should be trusted to read the play and timely cut to either get to the rim or clear out weak side corner to let KAT dominate that side of the floor if Brunson picks up a double from Hart’s man.

Hart should always be bring the ball upon transition.

motion offense... you want our guys who are already playing a ton to run around more? How about we give our guys a breather and let a couple of best iso basketball players get some easy buckets so we can continue to fly around on defense. Why? Cause it's more fun for you to watch? We have two of the highest gravity players in the league and you want to dish it around and have guys running around.

They DO do that... late in games after time outs with like 40 seconds to go


ISO is the opposite of easy buckets. Try to pass the ball off of movement ( ball travels faster than a player, so it's the defenders that should not get a " breather" when 4 ppl are resting and only 1 guy actively defending. This way we can go to our ISO , late in games, anyway and easier buckets early will give them more stamina to ISO late.
fishmike @ 5/17/2025 3:39 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"

That's the only reason in write my gems

If he is reading now, I’d like to see a 4-1 motion offense originating with KAT out of the high post under the directive to read the defense and make right play - not just shoot. Zen like Jokic.

Hart screening for OG out of the corner. Rip curl while Brunson simultaneously rotates out of the weak side for a possible handoff. Get OG in motion off the curl and if that doesn’t work revert to Brunson’s double screen with KAT pulling out for the “pop”. Bridges in the weak side corner should be trusted to read the play and timely cut to either get to the rim or clear out weak side corner to let KAT dominate that side of the floor if Brunson picks up a double from Hart’s man.

Hart should always be bring the ball upon transition.

motion offense... you want our guys who are already playing a ton to run around more? How about we give our guys a breather and let a couple of best iso basketball players get some easy buckets so we can continue to fly around on defense. Why? Cause it's more fun for you to watch? We have two of the highest gravity players in the league and you want to dish it around and have guys running around.

They DO do that... late in games after time outs with like 40 seconds to go


ISO is the opposite of easy buckets. Try to pass the ball off of movement ( ball travels faster than a player, so it's the defenders that should not get a " breather" when 4 ppl are resting and only 1 guy actively defending. This way we can go to our ISO , late in games, anyway and easier buckets early will give them more stamina to ISO late.
you could revolutionize the game! Beating a favorable matchup 1-1 with space to work in is kinda a thing.
EwingsGlass @ 5/17/2025 5:05 PM
fishmike wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"

That's the only reason in write my gems

If he is reading now, I’d like to see a 4-1 motion offense originating with KAT out of the high post under the directive to read the defense and make right play - not just shoot. Zen like Jokic.

Hart screening for OG out of the corner. Rip curl while Brunson simultaneously rotates out of the weak side for a possible handoff. Get OG in motion off the curl and if that doesn’t work revert to Brunson’s double screen with KAT pulling out for the “pop”. Bridges in the weak side corner should be trusted to read the play and timely cut to either get to the rim or clear out weak side corner to let KAT dominate that side of the floor if Brunson picks up a double from Hart’s man.

Hart should always be bring the ball upon transition.

motion offense... you want our guys who are already playing a ton to run around more? How about we give our guys a breather and let a couple of best iso basketball players get some easy buckets so we can continue to fly around on defense. Why? Cause it's more fun for you to watch? We have two of the highest gravity players in the league and you want to dish it around and have guys running around.

They DO do that... late in games after time outs with like 40 seconds to go

Yes? Mostly cause I think they have the personnel for it. I think it is the best version of them. Like an all time NBA best team version of the Knicks. Like a 73 kind of team with KAT playing a more talented role as Jokic. Brunson playing a version of Steph Curry and then a ridiculous 2x Wingstop 3&D two way set and a triple double machine Swiss Army Knife of a player/rebounder?

I am not happy with 51 wins. I think it is 29 wins under its potential.

Philc1 @ 5/17/2025 7:45 PM
So wait are we firing Coach Thibs?
ramtour420 @ 5/17/2025 7:46 PM
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Panos wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:This is our chance to get rid of Thibs. Lose to Boston in 7. We will not win a Championship without unlocking an offense. I don't want to waste Brunson's prime because Thibs cannot coach a freaking pass.

this didn't age well...

I thought our offense was humming in game 6. Even tho we were only 16 of 45 from three our passing (25 assists) made up for it. This is definitely a much better offense.

Thibs read your post and was like "we need to fix this"

That's the only reason in write my gems

If he is reading now, I’d like to see a 4-1 motion offense originating with KAT out of the high post under the directive to read the defense and make right play - not just shoot. Zen like Jokic.

Hart screening for OG out of the corner. Rip curl while Brunson simultaneously rotates out of the weak side for a possible handoff. Get OG in motion off the curl and if that doesn’t work revert to Brunson’s double screen with KAT pulling out for the “pop”. Bridges in the weak side corner should be trusted to read the play and timely cut to either get to the rim or clear out weak side corner to let KAT dominate that side of the floor if Brunson picks up a double from Hart’s man.

Hart should always be bring the ball upon transition.

motion offense... you want our guys who are already playing a ton to run around more? How about we give our guys a breather and let a couple of best iso basketball players get some easy buckets so we can continue to fly around on defense. Why? Cause it's more fun for you to watch? We have two of the highest gravity players in the league and you want to dish it around and have guys running around.

They DO do that... late in games after time outs with like 40 seconds to go


ISO is the opposite of easy buckets. Try to pass the ball off of movement ( ball travels faster than a player, so it's the defenders that should not get a " breather" when 4 ppl are resting and only 1 guy actively defending. This way we can go to our ISO , late in games, anyway and easier buckets early will give them more stamina to ISO late.
you could revolutionize the game! Beating a favorable matchup 1-1 with space to work in is kinda a thing.

It's not me, it's ,as Clyde would say: " ...the oldest play in basketball, the PnR" or " the classic give and go. Styling and Profiling"
We actually ran a give-n-go in game 6 once. I loved it and was very impressed with Thibs
There were also a bunch of proper PnR's , where Brunson would give the ball to the roll man. That's what it's going to take to win it all. Just need to run some of those plays early/mid and we can always go into ISO at the end. Maybe next year we could incorporate passing as a standard part of our game plan, whether it's a motion offense (ehh, harder to teach and incorporate in general) or a PnR centric one( my preference, just go and react- shooters find their spots and we spray it to them off of failed PnR.) the league would love it , imagine " New York will are relying on Brunson and KAT PnR ..." I can dig it, and I can give credit to the better spacing for Brunson if they cover KAT on the roll aggressively
martin @ 5/19/2025 12:03 PM
You know you wanna love him

fishmike @ 5/19/2025 1:25 PM
martin wrote:You know you wanna love him

you would think Im up his ass... Im not (just the jock, just the jock)

He's just been great. From player development to being a playoff Xs and Os guy he just keeps checking all the boxes. The team plays hard, they are well prepared, they play with joy, they execute, they love their coach.

Let these people cook. You are here to eat, not to tell the cooks how to run the kitchen

VDesai @ 5/19/2025 1:49 PM
He has been one of the consistently great coaches in the NBA for the last 2 decades....team maximization, player development, preparation. It is a gift to have someone who lives and breathes basketball in charge. Hard to argue who else deserves a ring more than this guy....I know he got one as an assistant, but who puts in more work than him? Very Belichickian.
HofstraBBall @ 5/20/2025 6:49 AM
“I think once you have a label, it’s hard to shed that label,” Josh Hart said after practice Monday. “This whole, I don’t want to call it a run because it’s two series, but those two series [against the Pistons and Celtics], he showed that he’s willing to adapt, he’s willing to change, he’s willing to do different things than he’s used to. Obviously, that’s a willingness on his end, the trust and belief in his players.
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