Knicks · IQ is really good (page 1)
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:IQ is the only player I can think of that we drafted (or traded for) that has made that third year jump. Robinson never really made that jump and 4th year bulked up Robinson also looked to have regressed. KP never really made that 3rd year jump either.IQ is a keeper and has become an nba starter. We should extend him in the summer. I’m thinking he’s in the 16M range.
Grimes is another player who I believe will make that 3rd year jump. RJ? He seems to get a little better each year. Jokubaitus also is on the right growth path to the nba. Deuce could also make a jump next season if he continues to get minutes and gain in comfort and confidence at the nba level.
Overall, we’ve drafter very well the last few seasons. Obi is really the only big question mark. That pick was more of a favour. We should have drafted Halli
The reason the Knicks and IQ will wait is 1) for salary cap reasons on the team side of things (they will be buyers in 2024) and 2) cause IQ can get a bigger contract if he waits a year.
There are VERY good reasons on both sides why he won't get extended until summer 2024.
Yeah I think you are right. It’s better for the team, I don’t think nba agents see it that way though. They want job security for their clients as well as the salary. I made a similar argument for waiting to resign Obi until 24 but it was more about getting him at the right price (4-5M) for a 16 min back up to Randle.
I don't think you are correct here.
It's a 4 year (if you do now) versus 5 year deal (if you wait) with % increases each year that are different (when you wait, the %'s are better with the 5 year deal).
IQ's cap hold will be around $10M in summer 2024 (250% of previous year) and the Knicks will need every dollar when they sign that next big free agent 
It's going to happen that summer.
martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:IQ is the only player I can think of that we drafted (or traded for) that has made that third year jump. Robinson never really made that jump and 4th year bulked up Robinson also looked to have regressed. KP never really made that 3rd year jump either.IQ is a keeper and has become an nba starter. We should extend him in the summer. I’m thinking he’s in the 16M range.
Grimes is another player who I believe will make that 3rd year jump. RJ? He seems to get a little better each year. Jokubaitus also is on the right growth path to the nba. Deuce could also make a jump next season if he continues to get minutes and gain in comfort and confidence at the nba level.
Overall, we’ve drafter very well the last few seasons. Obi is really the only big question mark. That pick was more of a favour. We should have drafted Halli
The reason the Knicks and IQ will wait is 1) for salary cap reasons on the team side of things (they will be buyers in 2024) and 2) cause IQ can get a bigger contract if he waits a year.
There are VERY good reasons on both sides why he won't get extended until summer 2024.
Yeah I think you are right. It’s better for the team, I don’t think nba agents see it that way though. They want job security for their clients as well as the salary. I made a similar argument for waiting to resign Obi until 24 but it was more about getting him at the right price (4-5M) for a 16 min back up to Randle.
I don't think you are correct here.
It's a 4 year (if you do now) versus 5 year deal (if you wait) with % increases each year that are different (when you wait, the %'s are better with the 5 year deal).
IQ's cap hold will be around $10M in summer 2024 (250% of previous year) and the Knicks will need every dollar when they sign that next big free agent
It's going to happen that summer.
With IQ’s injury history I would feel good about waiting. There is however, always the risk of injury. That was my point. You lock it in if you can or you take the risk and gamble on yourself. It. Guaranteed 60-70M vs waiting and risking for an additional 15+M
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:IQ is the only player I can think of that we drafted (or traded for) that has made that third year jump. Robinson never really made that jump and 4th year bulked up Robinson also looked to have regressed. KP never really made that 3rd year jump either.IQ is a keeper and has become an nba starter. We should extend him in the summer. I’m thinking he’s in the 16M range.
Grimes is another player who I believe will make that 3rd year jump. RJ? He seems to get a little better each year. Jokubaitus also is on the right growth path to the nba. Deuce could also make a jump next season if he continues to get minutes and gain in comfort and confidence at the nba level.
Overall, we’ve drafter very well the last few seasons. Obi is really the only big question mark. That pick was more of a favour. We should have drafted Halli
The reason the Knicks and IQ will wait is 1) for salary cap reasons on the team side of things (they will be buyers in 2024) and 2) cause IQ can get a bigger contract if he waits a year.
There are VERY good reasons on both sides why he won't get extended until summer 2024.
Yeah I think you are right. It’s better for the team, I don’t think nba agents see it that way though. They want job security for their clients as well as the salary. I made a similar argument for waiting to resign Obi until 24 but it was more about getting him at the right price (4-5M) for a 16 min back up to Randle.
I don't think you are correct here.
It's a 4 year (if you do now) versus 5 year deal (if you wait) with % increases each year that are different (when you wait, the %'s are better with the 5 year deal).
IQ's cap hold will be around $10M in summer 2024 (250% of previous year) and the Knicks will need every dollar when they sign that next big free agent
It's going to happen that summer.
With IQ’s injury history I would feel good about waiting. There is however, always the risk of injury. That was my point. You lock it in if you can or you take the risk and gamble on yourself. It. Guaranteed 60-70M vs waiting and risking for an additional 15+M
The Knicks won't do it, plain and simple. They are going free agent hunting in 2024, I'll create a new thread on that soon.
Also, I don't think IQ has an injury history.
martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:IQ is the only player I can think of that we drafted (or traded for) that has made that third year jump. Robinson never really made that jump and 4th year bulked up Robinson also looked to have regressed. KP never really made that 3rd year jump either.IQ is a keeper and has become an nba starter. We should extend him in the summer. I’m thinking he’s in the 16M range.
Grimes is another player who I believe will make that 3rd year jump. RJ? He seems to get a little better each year. Jokubaitus also is on the right growth path to the nba. Deuce could also make a jump next season if he continues to get minutes and gain in comfort and confidence at the nba level.
Overall, we’ve drafter very well the last few seasons. Obi is really the only big question mark. That pick was more of a favour. We should have drafted Halli
The reason the Knicks and IQ will wait is 1) for salary cap reasons on the team side of things (they will be buyers in 2024) and 2) cause IQ can get a bigger contract if he waits a year.
There are VERY good reasons on both sides why he won't get extended until summer 2024.
Yeah I think you are right. It’s better for the team, I don’t think nba agents see it that way though. They want job security for their clients as well as the salary. I made a similar argument for waiting to resign Obi until 24 but it was more about getting him at the right price (4-5M) for a 16 min back up to Randle.
I don't think you are correct here.
It's a 4 year (if you do now) versus 5 year deal (if you wait) with % increases each year that are different (when you wait, the %'s are better with the 5 year deal).
IQ's cap hold will be around $10M in summer 2024 (250% of previous year) and the Knicks will need every dollar when they sign that next big free agent
It's going to happen that summer.
With IQ’s injury history I would feel good about waiting. There is however, always the risk of injury. That was my point. You lock it in if you can or you take the risk and gamble on yourself. It. Guaranteed 60-70M vs waiting and risking for an additional 15+M
The Knicks won't do it, plain and simple. They are going free agent hunting in 2024, I'll create a new thread on that soon.
Also, I don't think IQ has an injury history.
That’s what I meant about injury history. He has been healthy and not injury prone. He has a good injury history.
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:IQ is the only player I can think of that we drafted (or traded for) that has made that third year jump. Robinson never really made that jump and 4th year bulked up Robinson also looked to have regressed. KP never really made that 3rd year jump either.IQ is a keeper and has become an nba starter. We should extend him in the summer. I’m thinking he’s in the 16M range.
Grimes is another player who I believe will make that 3rd year jump. RJ? He seems to get a little better each year. Jokubaitus also is on the right growth path to the nba. Deuce could also make a jump next season if he continues to get minutes and gain in comfort and confidence at the nba level.
Overall, we’ve drafter very well the last few seasons. Obi is really the only big question mark. That pick was more of a favour. We should have drafted Halli
The reason the Knicks and IQ will wait is 1) for salary cap reasons on the team side of things (they will be buyers in 2024) and 2) cause IQ can get a bigger contract if he waits a year.
There are VERY good reasons on both sides why he won't get extended until summer 2024.
Yeah I think you are right. It’s better for the team, I don’t think nba agents see it that way though. They want job security for their clients as well as the salary. I made a similar argument for waiting to resign Obi until 24 but it was more about getting him at the right price (4-5M) for a 16 min back up to Randle.
I don't think you are correct here.
It's a 4 year (if you do now) versus 5 year deal (if you wait) with % increases each year that are different (when you wait, the %'s are better with the 5 year deal).
IQ's cap hold will be around $10M in summer 2024 (250% of previous year) and the Knicks will need every dollar when they sign that next big free agent
It's going to happen that summer.
With IQ’s injury history I would feel good about waiting. There is however, always the risk of injury. That was my point. You lock it in if you can or you take the risk and gamble on yourself. It. Guaranteed 60-70M vs waiting and risking for an additional 15+M
The Knicks won't do it, plain and simple. They are going free agent hunting in 2024, I'll create a new thread on that soon.
Also, I don't think IQ has an injury history.
That’s what I meant about injury history. He has been healthy and not injury prone. He has a good injury history.
Oh got it, sorry I read your post wrong.
martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:IQ is the only player I can think of that we drafted (or traded for) that has made that third year jump. Robinson never really made that jump and 4th year bulked up Robinson also looked to have regressed. KP never really made that 3rd year jump either.IQ is a keeper and has become an nba starter. We should extend him in the summer. I’m thinking he’s in the 16M range.
Grimes is another player who I believe will make that 3rd year jump. RJ? He seems to get a little better each year. Jokubaitus also is on the right growth path to the nba. Deuce could also make a jump next season if he continues to get minutes and gain in comfort and confidence at the nba level.
Overall, we’ve drafter very well the last few seasons. Obi is really the only big question mark. That pick was more of a favour. We should have drafted Halli
The reason the Knicks and IQ will wait is 1) for salary cap reasons on the team side of things (they will be buyers in 2024) and 2) cause IQ can get a bigger contract if he waits a year.
There are VERY good reasons on both sides why he won't get extended until summer 2024.
Yeah I think you are right. It’s better for the team, I don’t think nba agents see it that way though. They want job security for their clients as well as the salary. I made a similar argument for waiting to resign Obi until 24 but it was more about getting him at the right price (4-5M) for a 16 min back up to Randle.
I don't think you are correct here.
It's a 4 year (if you do now) versus 5 year deal (if you wait) with % increases each year that are different (when you wait, the %'s are better with the 5 year deal).
IQ's cap hold will be around $10M in summer 2024 (250% of previous year) and the Knicks will need every dollar when they sign that next big free agent
It's going to happen that summer.
With IQ’s injury history I would feel good about waiting. There is however, always the risk of injury. That was my point. You lock it in if you can or you take the risk and gamble on yourself. It. Guaranteed 60-70M vs waiting and risking for an additional 15+M
The Knicks won't do it, plain and simple. They are going free agent hunting in 2024, I'll create a new thread on that soon.
Also, I don't think IQ has an injury history.
That’s what I meant about injury history. He has been healthy and not injury prone. He has a good injury history.
Oh got it, sorry I read your post wrong.
I have a weird way of saying things sometimes