Knicks · [Game Thread 2/7/23] Knicks at Magic 7PM (page 1)
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Orlando = 22-32 (13-13 @ home).
We've recently proved we can compete with the NBA's elite teams while giving them all they can handle but tonight we've gotta prove we can beat the teams we're expected to beat.
As long as we don't play down the the level of our opponent (Magic) we should destroy these guys by 25-30+ points tonight (beat them by 13 back in October).
Big time game for us because if we win and Brooklyn loses vs. Phoenix? We'll only be 3.0 games back of the Nets (and we'll get to play them on the 13th in 6 days too).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.
NYKMentality wrote:Knicks = 29-26 (15-11 on the road).
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Orlando = 22-32 (13-13 @ home).We've recently proved we can compete with the NBA's elite teams while giving them all they can handle but tonight we've gotta prove we can beat the teams we're expected to beat.
As long as we don't play down the the level of our opponent (Magic) we should destroy these guys by 25-30+ points tonight (beat them by 13 back in October).
Big time game for us because if we win and Brooklyn loses vs. Phoenix? We'll only be 3.0 games back of the Nets (and we'll get to play them on the 13th in 6 days too).
Don't underestimate the Magic. They have great young talent, great size. If the Knicks had this young talent we would be ecstatic. Banchero, Young Wagner will be stars, Suggs, Fultz, Issac, Wendall carter, Bol Bol, Bamba, Anthony, Older Wagner, some veterans, Really nice young exciting team.
BigRedDog wrote:yup lots of blue chips on that team. Ask the Celtics how easy they areNYKMentality wrote:Knicks = 29-26 (15-11 on the road).
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Orlando = 22-32 (13-13 @ home).We've recently proved we can compete with the NBA's elite teams while giving them all they can handle but tonight we've gotta prove we can beat the teams we're expected to beat.
As long as we don't play down the the level of our opponent (Magic) we should destroy these guys by 25-30+ points tonight (beat them by 13 back in October).
Big time game for us because if we win and Brooklyn loses vs. Phoenix? We'll only be 3.0 games back of the Nets (and we'll get to play them on the 13th in 6 days too).
Don't underestimate the Magic. They have great young talent, great size. If the Knicks had this young talent we would be ecstatic. Banchero, Young Wagner will be stars, Suggs, Fultz, Issac, Wendall carter, Bol Bol, Bamba, Anthony, Older Wagner, some veterans, Really nice young exciting team.
I think Orlando is a young team starting to figure out how to win. And they probably will have the best player on the court in Banchero.
Looks like he may be hitting the rookie wall.
If we're serious about making the playoffs, have to win this game.
fishmike wrote:BigRedDog wrote:yup lots of blue chips on that team. Ask the Celtics how easy they areNYKMentality wrote:Knicks = 29-26 (15-11 on the road).
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Orlando = 22-32 (13-13 @ home).We've recently proved we can compete with the NBA's elite teams while giving them all they can handle but tonight we've gotta prove we can beat the teams we're expected to beat.
As long as we don't play down the the level of our opponent (Magic) we should destroy these guys by 25-30+ points tonight (beat them by 13 back in October).
Big time game for us because if we win and Brooklyn loses vs. Phoenix? We'll only be 3.0 games back of the Nets (and we'll get to play them on the 13th in 6 days too).
Don't underestimate the Magic. They have great young talent, great size. If the Knicks had this young talent we would be ecstatic. Banchero, Young Wagner will be stars, Suggs, Fultz, Issac, Wendall carter, Bol Bol, Bamba, Anthony, Older Wagner, some veterans, Really nice young exciting team.
I went to the game in Philly last week against the Magic. Magic were down 20 in the 1st quarter and came back to win. I noticed that the Magic were a very unselfish team, lots of passing.
Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.
Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
fishmike wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
10 games below .500.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.
NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
franco12 wrote:this has trap written all over it.I think Orlando is a young team starting to figure out how to win. And they probably will have the best player on the court in Banchero.
Looks like he may be hitting the rookie wall.
If we're serious about making the playoffs, have to win this game.
You know what... feels like Knicks have done pretty well in trap games this year? I can't recall exactly but think they have done OK
I think I read something about their 8 back-to-backs this year and they are only team not to have back-to-back loses.
NYKMentality wrote:fishmike wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.10 games below .500.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.
BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
You're the one bugging.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.
Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
NYKMentality wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
You're the one bugging.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
Orlando has mad upside. This team, in it's current form has maxed out it's potential.
BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:You're the one bugging.NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
Orlando has mad upside. This team, in it's current form has maxed out it's potential.
Maxed out potential?
• 8-9 players all between the ages of 22-24.
• Boat load of 1st round draft picks.
• Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle duo has just began.
And you're talking about potential being "maxed out"?
See. This is the type of hypocritical horse crap I can't stomach from much of our fan base (especially on Twitter).
BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
You're the one bugging.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
Orlando has mad upside. This team, in it's current form has maxed out it's potential.
Not even close
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
You're the one bugging.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
Orlando has mad upside. This team, in it's current form has maxed out it's potential.Not even close
Not even close to what? The fourth seed? The second round of the playoffs? This team is mid as it currently stands and needs more talent. There's not much separating us from the Toronto and Bulls of the world right now.
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Not even closeNYKMentality wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:You're the one bugging.NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
Orlando has mad upside. This team, in it's current form has maxed out it's potential.
I love UK Martin so I apologize for going too crazy @ times but these types of posts drive me insane man.
Hey. I guess every team especially trash tank teams now have more potential than our Knicks who've yet to complete year 3 under Coach Thibs.
Yeah.
Right.
I wonder how many Knicks fans have even watched more than 5 Orlando Magic games over the past 2 years in order to form such an opinion on their "awesome" potential 🤣😭🤣
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
You're the one bugging.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
Orlando has mad upside. This team, in it's current form has maxed out it's potential.Not even close
Not even close to what? The fourth seed? The second round of the playoffs? This team is mid as it currently stands and needs more talent. There's not much separating us from the Toronto and Bulls of the world right now.
Fulfilling potential.
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:Not even close to what? The fourth seed? The second round of the playoffs? This team is mid as it currently stands and needs more talent. There's not much separating us from the Toronto and Bulls of the world right now.BigDaddyG wrote:Not even closeNYKMentality wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:You're the one bugging.NYKMentality wrote:You buggin'. I would take Banchero or Wagner 10/10 over RJ. The Magic aren't outright tanking and are giving teams fits. I would trade their ceiling for the Knicks ceiling right now. Not only is that team getting valuable experience for it's youth, but their in line to add more cheap young talent in the draft. Or maybe they trade their assets for a vet and make the next step.fishmike wrote:10 games below .500.NYKMentality wrote:Fans have been super patient with RJ. 4 years patient. Just hoping for some better basketball.Nalod wrote:have a little respect for Orlando. They are 6-4 their last 10 and have been doing well.Sorry but I actually live down here in Florida these days (Tampa Bay) and there's nothing for me to respect (as an NBA fan) about an Orlando team that's 10 games below .500 and the 3rd worst team within the entire Eastern Conference (only better than DET/CHA tank teams).
Records are not always predictors to the outcome.
They are getting healthy and on paper team is starting to emerge.
Its along season and they are not the same as the team we played in October. Nor are we for that matter.
Its the NBA, parity exists.Let's be real here Nalod.
Heaven forbid our Knicks were the 13th seed with all of our "great young talent" our NYC Fan Base would attack the head coach (after every single game) and also attack our players for playing non-efficient basketball.
Funny how Knicks fans give Orlando "patience" to develop young talent but when it comes to our extremely young team with kids like R.J. Barrett?
Different story, now isn't it?
Funny would be thinking RJ is like Kobe.
3rd worst team within the Eastern Conference.
13th seed.NYC fans who be screaming to blow it up, fire the head coach and trade away the entire roster for a real Superstar.
You know it.
And I know it.
The Knicks are being led by two All-Star Caliber players in Jalen Brunson/Julius Randle alongside of extremely young talent in Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, R.J. Barrett, Obi Toppin & Mitchell Robinson (+ Deuce McBride and Jericho Sims).
The Knicks have a much higher ceiling along with a boat load of future 1st round picks too.
Orlando:
Offensive Rating = 25th.
Defensive Rating = 21st.
Net Rating = 26th.
Turnover Percentage = 26th.Please stop overrating this Orlando teams "future".
Orlando has mad upside. This team, in it's current form has maxed out it's potential.
And the Orlando Magic isn't mid as it currently stands and need a lot more tank seasons in order to gain more talent. Because they absolutely stink. They're the 13th seed in the East and the 5th worst team within the entire NBA. And it's not because of great potential or youth either; it's because they SUCK.