Knicks · Are the Mavs tanking ? (page 1)

Alpha1971 @ 3/15/2023 7:34 AM

Are they tanking to get their pick below 10 now.
KnickDanger @ 3/15/2023 8:16 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:
Are they tanking to get their pick below 10 now.

Shoot, maybe.

NYKMentality @ 3/15/2023 8:40 AM
Dallas isn't tanking and/or losing on purpose.

They're just on a 3 game losing streak @ .000%, 3-7 previous 10 games @ .300%, 5-9 since Kyrie Irving played his 1st game @ .357% and 1 game below .500 on the year @ only 34-35 overall etc, etc.

Because Dallas just isn't a very good team (@ all) and the Western Conference Finals ghost of Jalen Brunson is going to haunt them and haunt them for (many of) years.

MaTT4281 @ 3/15/2023 8:46 AM
NYKMentality wrote:
They're just on a 3 game losing streak @ .000%

The math checks out. Appreciate the leg work!

KnickDanger @ 3/15/2023 8:57 AM
I think the suspicion revolves around Luka and Kyrie not playing.
LivingLegend @ 3/15/2023 9:50 AM
MaTT4281 wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
They're just on a 3 game losing streak @ .000%

The math checks out. Appreciate the leg work!

Jesus - lol 😂

LivingLegend @ 3/15/2023 9:53 AM
KnickDanger wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Are they tanking to get their pick below 10 now.

Shoot, maybe.

I’ve been worrying about them losing too much but tanking hadn’t crossed my mind and it’s a fair point.

So how does this pick work - if the fall into the lottery - 14 teams will we have to wait until the draft lottery to see if they end up with a 1-10 or a 11-14 pick?

SergioNYK @ 3/15/2023 9:58 AM
It's called Kyrie karma.
Knixkik @ 3/15/2023 10:17 AM
Seems late in the year since based case for them is finishing with about the 9th worst record. Looking like a good Knicks pick though hopefully. Much better than expected.
GustavBahler @ 3/15/2023 10:18 AM
Kyrie is always hurt from something...
TheGame @ 3/15/2023 11:17 AM
I doubt it because they traded for Kyrie to presumably resign him. I don’t think he would view the team that well if they cannot even make the playoffs. Dallas is simply not as good as they were last year. They miss Brunson, and they miss the players they gave up for Kyrie.
fishmike @ 3/15/2023 11:43 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Are they tanking to get their pick below 10 now.

Shoot, maybe.

I’ve been worrying about them losing too much but tanking hadn’t crossed my mind and it’s a fair point.

So how does this pick work - if the fall into the lottery - 14 teams will we have to wait until the draft lottery to see if they end up with a 1-10 or a 11-14 pick?


Mavs are tied for 4 teams with a record 34-35. There are 12 other teams with a worse record.

Even if they end up the worst of those teams they are currently tied with they still need to leap frog a couple teams. Knicks are looking in great shape for this pick. Its currently 15 but that could to 13 or 18 with one win or a loss.

There's NO WAY they are tanking. They will be desperate to make the playoffs in hopes their big 2 gets hot and makes a run.

martin @ 3/15/2023 12:50 PM
Knickoftime @ 3/15/2023 1:39 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
Are they tanking to get their pick below 10 now.

Shoot, maybe.

I’ve been worrying about them losing too much but tanking hadn’t crossed my mind and it’s a fair point.

So how does this pick work - if the fall into the lottery - 14 teams will we have to wait until the draft lottery to see if they end up with a 1-10 or a 11-14 pick?

Not exactly...

Team who finishes 11-14 has NO shot at picks 5 through the one pick ahead of them. They can ONLY get one of the top 4 picks (very low odds), or the exact pick of the order they finished, or the picks behind them.

This explains it:

https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

So let's say you finish with the 12th worst record of the teams who don't make the postseason (meaning after the play-in games.

Your chances are 2.1% (#1), 2.3% (#2), 2.6% (#3), 2.9% (#4), 0% (#s 5-11), 83.5% (#12), 6.6% (#13), and 0.1% (#14).

Alpha1971 @ 3/25/2023 5:07 AM
As of 3/26 Dallas is in the 11 spot with pick conveying .... Just saying Dallas better win a few more games or we not having there pick this draft.
MaddogSharp @ 3/25/2023 7:16 AM
That would suck . In the end I think they will end up 11-15 which in this draft which is considered pretty deep would her good for us
Philc1 @ 3/25/2023 9:22 AM
SergioNYK wrote:It's called Kyrie karma.

Basically this.

LivingLegend @ 3/25/2023 9:35 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:As of 3/26 Dallas is in the 11 spot with pick conveying .... Just saying Dallas better win a few more games or we not having there pick this draft.

Yes 11 this AM —— not sure I like the gamble of them falling in the 11-14 range and having chance to land a top 4.

Nalod @ 3/25/2023 11:57 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:As of 3/26 Dallas is in the 11 spot with pick conveying .... Just saying Dallas better win a few more games or we not having there pick this draft.

Yes 11 this AM —— not sure I like the gamble of them falling in the 11-14 range and having chance to land a top 4.

But a boy can dream………
Lets say its not “Knicks luck” to count on.
Whats worse than Knicks luck? Might be Dallas?
They have a chip and did well with Dirk, but some gaffs along the way.
Franchise let Nash and Brunson walk! Chandler Parsons was a big boo boo financially.
It happens. Injuries matter. Bad luck.
Every team. Has “best and worst” list. Cube and Co. got cute with the 2011 chip team and could not stay at that level. Not saying they win with heat at the peak of powers, but they did not stay contending.

KnickDanger @ 3/25/2023 12:07 PM
The razor's edge....
franco12 @ 3/25/2023 2:28 PM
Our luck is the mavs move into top 4.
Page 1 of 4