Knicks · Our season is over. What is your RX for the team in the offseason? (page 1)

GustavBahler @ 5/12/2023 10:24 PM
Who stays, who goes, who does the FO target? Whats our greatest need?
Knixkik @ 5/12/2023 10:30 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Who stays, who goes, who does the FO target? Whats our greatest need?

Great season. A lot to build on. Brunson is a superstar.

On the low end I would move Toppin and replace him in the rotation with a high level 3&D guy. Maybe Nets would like him and will give us Finney-smith or O’Neale. Someone along those lines. On the more extreme end I would considering moving Barrett, Toppin and picks for LaVine. Get a true #2 who is an elite shooter. Either way the moral of the story is to add shooting without hurting the defense. LaVine isn’t known as a defender but he’s proven to be average when engaged. Average is fine because it doesn’t hurt us. Shooting and quality shot creation is needed.

ramtour420 @ 5/12/2023 10:33 PM
I want a new wrinkle in our offense. I want Brunson -Randle PnR
Chandler @ 5/12/2023 10:33 PM
Jesus
ramtour420 @ 5/12/2023 10:35 PM
I also want everyone to shoot a gazelleon 3 pointers over the summer, everyone except for Mitch, he needs to shoot free throws.
ToddTT @ 5/12/2023 10:38 PM
Ankle tape.
SupremeCommander @ 5/12/2023 10:43 PM
My plan is to get Christopher Lloyd and Michael J Fox and JVG’s Civic… and I’ll get them to combine Josh Hart and EF into one player
BigDaddyG @ 5/12/2023 10:56 PM
We need a defender at the forward spot, preferably through the draft or UDFA. It doesn't have to be OG, who probably doesn't help us win this series anyway. But it's a glaring weakness in their defensive profile. We also need more guys who can create off the dribble. Maybe IQ and Grimes get there consistently, but it's a weakness. We also need to diversify our offensive schemes. Iso is OK, but the team gets to stagnant and becomes easy to key in on. Lastly, I'd like to see them try out Randle at the five more. Hopefully this boosts RJ into the next season. Grimes and IQ were trash, but the experience is invaluable. I can't remember the last time I felt this confident about team's future. Now Leon and Brock need to get to work.
Chandler @ 5/12/2023 11:01 PM
Guys are you serious. You can’t appreciate the fun they provided. Can’t wait a day or two to say how to fix things?

Holy schnikes

ramtour420 @ 5/12/2023 11:03 PM
Chandler wrote:Guys are you serious. You can’t appreciate the fun they provided. Can’t wait a day or two to say how to fix things?

Holy schnikes

No, because this stuff should have been done yesterday. We are the armchair experts after all. You can always count on us to come through

Chandler @ 5/12/2023 11:06 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
Chandler wrote:Guys are you serious. You can’t appreciate the fun they provided. Can’t wait a day or two to say how to fix things?

Holy schnikes

No, because this stuff should have been done yesterday. We are the armchair experts after all. You can always count on us to come through

Haha. I think some of these posts were created yesterday too!

BigDaddyG @ 5/12/2023 11:08 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
Chandler wrote:Guys are you serious. You can’t appreciate the fun they provided. Can’t wait a day or two to say how to fix things?

Holy schnikes

No, because this stuff should have been done yesterday. We are the armchair experts after all. You can always count on us to come through

I mean.. it's not like we don't have the time now.

franco12 @ 5/12/2023 11:16 PM
trust the FO, hope they don't over spend.

Fingers crossed we can nab Dallas's pick.

Mikal Bridges maybe should be top target.

Try to find our Butler- our older vet with something left in the tank that can help during the season and then the playoffs when things slow and the mind struggles with the weight of the moment.

Gudris @ 5/13/2023 12:26 AM
Bring back Porzingis, he loves to play with Brunson
gradyandrew @ 5/13/2023 12:42 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Who stays, who goes, who does the FO target? Whats our greatest need?

First, decline Rose's option to save money. If he's amenable, sign him to a very minimum contract to keep the locker room strong and throw the fans a bone during blowouts.

Second, resign Hart to a reasonable deal. Hopefully he agrees to a team friendly contract to stay next to his idol Jalen Brunson.

Third, try to extend Obi and IQ. Those two might want to test RFA next season and land bigger contracts with more prominent roles. Maybe negotiate 4 year deals with the last year as a player option. Both of them are one catastrophic injury away from a "could of, should of" life. Hopefully they remember Nerlens Noel's story.

Doing those 3 (or 4) moves guarantees franchise stability over the next few.seasons.

Asset wise the Knicks have Fournier's contract to pair with the MLE and draft picks I'm not 100% sold on Jericho Sims as the 3rd string center and have no idea what Keels and Roby have to offer going forward. Knicks have been solid using the summer league to develop young guys, so maybe those 3 guys get featured and the organization can have a better idea of what they have.

I'm kinda iffy of packaging Fournier with draft picks for an upgrade. It seems like most teams that make all in deals (Phoenix Atlanta Minnesota) later end up regretting it. I don't think LaVine gets moved but maybe Beal or Lillard hit the market because their teams are sorely in need of a reset. KAT is interesting as well. A lot of the effort complaints about him mirror those of Wiggins who became the second best guy on a championship squad. Maybe KAT follows the same path. It just seems like on a risk/ reward basis get contracts + draft picks + prospects deals often fall apart before the first pick converts. I don't see Fournier having much trade value, maybe whoever nabs Wembanyama would trade a couple of future second round picks and a trade exemption to have a veteran French presence.

So in brief, run it back again. The team still has plenty of room for internal improvement. If RJ IQ Grimes and Obi can continue their improvement, Knicks should be in line for a top 4 record in the East next season.

Stevo718 @ 5/13/2023 2:13 AM
Untouchable-
Brunson

Players I would love to keep-
Robinson
Hart
IQ

Everyone else should be available.

Will never win a championship with Randle.

Just like Stephon Marbury, awesome in the regular season and sucked in the post season.

Some players just fold in the post season and do we really need a third post season of poor play by Randle to figure that out?
How much trade value does Randle have? I’m not sure but the first offer that’s halfway decent I would jump on.

Nalod @ 5/13/2023 2:26 AM
Chandler wrote:Guys are you serious. You can’t appreciate the fun they provided. Can’t wait a day or two to say how to fix things?

Holy schnikes

“No, I want those players who toyed with my tender emotions gone I say, gone and off with them!
Good riddance and only wish ill upon them as their success would prove me incorrect!!!!
Its all about the fan and being right!!! I have so little say in life or control, but to make a prediction and it be true, well then I will be respected and celebrated with my online friends! Indeed, I do have control of my life then! Blame others and not own some truths. Knicks are never beaten, they only lose due to some players being inept. I want them traded for better ones who shall offer me hope before any reality starts again!”

Sincerely yours
Knicks fan

Alpha1971 @ 5/13/2023 4:01 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:My plan is to get Christopher Lloyd and Michael J Fox and JVG’s Civic… and I’ll get them to combine Josh Hart and EF into one player

Careful what you ask for ? What if you get a French bald slow guard who can't shoot and plays no defense ? Worst of both and not the best

Alpha1971 @ 5/13/2023 4:11 AM
What I want to see is Brunson as team leader after the vacation to rest body and soul, gets his college teammate Hart, plus RJ and whoever else wants to workout together, united on working on shooting from outside and swinging the ball so they can spread the floor. Get RJ and Hart elite at shooting the 3. Get Mitch average at the FT line and at setting picks. The improvement of RJ and Hart shooting the 3 to 38pct or better would change the offense. Plus get a reserve PG to back up Brunson who can shoot and okay D. If it's Rokas great if not use his rights in a trade to get someone in a trade that can do that. Should be fun offseason. I expect the team to be involved in lots of rumors. But Leon is more conservative and will make moves if the deal is team friendly asset wise
gradyandrew @ 5/13/2023 4:47 AM
Stevo718 wrote:Untouchable-
Brunson

Players I would love to keep-
Robinson
Hart
IQ

Everyone else should be available.

Will never win a championship with Randle.

Just like Stephon Marbury, awesome in the regular season and sucked in the post season.

Some players just fold in the post season and do we really need a third post season of poor play by Randle to figure that out?
How much trade value does Randle have? I’m not sure but the first offer that’s halfway decent I would jump on.

Honestly, Knicks fans said the same thing about Eddy Curry. Two years after we traded him, he got a ring with Miami.

gradyandrew @ 5/13/2023 4:54 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:What I want to see is Brunson as team leader after the vacation to rest body and soul, gets his college teammate Hart, plus RJ and whoever else wants to workout together, united on working on shooting from outside and swinging the ball so they can spread the floor. Get RJ and Hart elite at shooting the 3. Get Mitch average at the FT line and at setting picks. The improvement of RJ and Hart shooting the 3 to 38pct or better would change the offense. Plus get a reserve PG to back up Brunson who can shoot and okay D. If it's Rokas great if not use his rights in a trade to get someone in a trade that can do that. Should be fun offseason. I expect the team to be involved in lots of rumors. But Leon is more conservative and will make moves if the deal is team friendly asset wise

Why limit yourself like that?

I want a top 2 reserve who can shoot 40% from 3 as a spot starter and top ten in the league in fg% defense. Sadly, players like that are probably out of reach.

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