Knicks · Around the NBA, 2023 Free Agency: Let the madness begin! (page 19)

ToddTT @ 7/8/2023 7:24 PM
martin wrote:Oh golly

Caseloads @ 7/9/2023 8:14 AM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:Oh golly

Ticket prices and sponsorships will increase. Unlikely to win another title unless the Poole chemistry was that major. No center, klay and dray older, no bench, wiggs is not focused.

Alpha1971 @ 7/9/2023 11:35 AM
If we signed Christian Wood would he as good on offense and as bad as defense as Obi but in the vet min ?
Alpha1971 @ 7/9/2023 11:52 AM
Can we trade Fournier and a few seconds for B Bogdovic from Detroit. He can back up RJ and Julius.
martin @ 7/9/2023 12:05 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:Can we trade Fournier and a few seconds for B Bogdovic from Detroit. He can back up RJ and Julius.

I’m not sure why Detroit would do this. Knicks are more likely looking to trade Fournier with a rotation player for an upgrade.

Pistons have an interesting set of vets around a very young team. Burks, Monte Morris, Joe Harris, Bogdovic. Really good shooters and spacers. Incredible young talent with Cade, Ivey, Ausar, Steward, Duren, Begley, Wiseman.

My guess is that they sell off the vets later in season. Something definitely needs to give.

martin @ 7/9/2023 12:06 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:If we signed Christian Wood would he as good on offense and as bad as defense as Obi but in the vet min ?

Christian Wood is an asked an answered type player.

martin @ 7/10/2023 10:58 AM
Ugh

Caseloads @ 7/10/2023 12:01 PM
martin wrote:Ugh

this is the way that sports is going - no real "news" coverage

martin @ 7/10/2023 10:49 PM
Larger than Mitch contract

martin @ 7/10/2023 10:53 PM
Obi about to demand another trade

joec32033 @ 7/10/2023 11:31 PM
martin wrote:Obi about to demand another trade

IF it happens, you think Indy will sell Siakam down the river for Obi as fast as some fans in NY did for Randle?

Clean @ 7/11/2023 2:42 AM
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:Obi about to demand another trade

IF it happens, you think Indy will sell Siakam down the river for Obi as fast as some fans in NY did for Randle?

I would guess not because I don't see Siakams name next Randles when it comes to the worst playoff performers of all time stats.

joec32033 @ 7/11/2023 3:22 AM
Pascal Siakam has averaged 19.1 points, 7.4 rebounds and 4.5 assists in 17 games in the playoffs between June 19, 2020 and June 19, 2023.

https://www.google.com/search?q=siakam+s...

Julius Randle has averaged 17.1 points, 9.4 rebounds and 3.7 assists in 15 games in the playoffs in his career.

https://www.google.com/search?q=randle+s...
Clean @ 7/11/2023 7:21 AM

Forget what the tweet is saying I am using it for the graphic. I am not seeing Siakams name. I am sorry but raw point,rebound and ast stats don't tell the whole story. It has always been that way with Randle. Randle gets the offense ran through him no matter how bad he does and hogs the ball. Why do you think his regular season stats are always so good but no NBA GM actually thinks he is as good of a player as his stats would suggest. You can play ignorance to how this works if you want but try to trade Randle for Siakam straight up and see what answer you get.

joec32033 @ 7/11/2023 8:50 AM
Clean wrote:

Forget what the tweet is saying I am using it for the graphic. I am not seeing Siakams name. I am sorry but raw point,rebound and ast stats don't tell the whole story. It has always been that way with Randle. Randle gets the offense ran through him no matter how bad he does and hogs the ball. Why do you think his regular season stats are always so good but no NBA GM actually thinks he is as good of a player as his stats would suggest. You can play ignorance to how this works if you want but try to trade Randle for Siakam straight up and see what answer you get.

So....forget what you just said because you didn't realize it was that close?

BigDaddyG @ 7/11/2023 11:25 AM
joec32033 wrote:
Clean wrote:

Forget what the tweet is saying I am using it for the graphic. I am not seeing Siakams name. I am sorry but raw point,rebound and ast stats don't tell the whole story. It has always been that way with Randle. Randle gets the offense ran through him no matter how bad he does and hogs the ball. Why do you think his regular season stats are always so good but no NBA GM actually thinks he is as good of a player as his stats would suggest. You can play ignorance to how this works if you want but try to trade Randle for Siakam straight up and see what answer you get.

So....forget what you just said because you didn't realize it was that close?

The problem is that when you start to look at their efficiency numbers, Randle's career stats are as bad as Siakam's worst year. Personally, I don't see a big difference between the two. I don't think you'd want either one as the first or second option on a playoff contender.

martin @ 7/11/2023 1:15 PM
I think Sham just refereed to Lillard's Juice Card lol

EwingsGlass @ 7/11/2023 5:52 PM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:Oh golly

How much do they charge for a second apron? Asking for a friend.

martin @ 7/11/2023 8:35 PM

joec32033 @ 7/11/2023 11:13 PM
martin wrote:

That flopping stuff is weird. It should just be a regular foul, called at the time of the foul. What I want to know is do the rules acknowledge it can be an offensive and defensive flopping foul.

Never liked the replay stuff. Should be simpler. Call for a review. You win, you keep the review and the timeout. You lose you lose the timeout. The real sticking point should be how many are allowable. My idea, allow until you are out of timeouts. Anything after that if you lose the review the other team gets a foul shot. The NBA should be better at monitering incorrect calls from either the arena or NBA home base. The league should bear a responibility that the games are called as accurately as possible. There really should be a way to make sure the refs are held accountable.

And get rid of that piece of shit 2 minute report unless you plan on changing the outcome of the game or penalizing the refs for incorrect calls. That is the most useless shit and just throws it in the face of fans if they lose because of crappy officiating.

Chandler @ 7/12/2023 9:00 AM
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:

That flopping stuff is weird. It should just be a regular foul, called at the time of the foul. What I want to know is do the rules acknowledge it can be an offensive and defensive flopping foul.

Never liked the replay stuff. Should be simpler. Call for a review. You win, you keep the review and the timeout. You lose you lose the timeout. The real sticking point should be how many are allowable. My idea, allow until you are out of timeouts. Anything after that if you lose the review the other team gets a foul shot. The NBA should be better at monitering incorrect calls from either the arena or NBA home base. The league should bear a responibility that the games are called as accurately as possible. There really should be a way to make sure the refs are held accountable.

And get rid of that piece of shit 2 minute report unless you plan on changing the outcome of the game or penalizing the refs for incorrect calls. That is the most useless shit and just throws it in the face of fans if they lose because of crappy officiating.

I might be wrong but i think the point with the flopping rule is they can call a flop even if they didn't call a foul and let people play on.

Also the 2 minute report is garbage because many games are decided at other points in the game. they also don't attempt to address most coaches and players' main criticism which is consistency. they bend over backwards to justify the refs decisions and that just makes things worse. balls and strikes need to be consistent as do fouls etc.

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