Knicks · Tweaking the SL (page 3)

martin @ 10/20/2023 2:30 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:I don’t know how you miss Grimes

Randle and RJ play with their tunnel vision on high. Having two players in your starting lineup and get the highest mins, both have too much tunnel vision. This what 5 yrs of chemistry get you? lol

Its a wonder that Thibs and company have figured out how to get the best offensive production our of the Knicks with tunnel visions guys like Randle, RJ and Mitch who doesn't have a ounce of offensive knowhow in him on top of having poor 3point shooters as a team, right?

This is what has me concerned - could last year have been a 1-year deal where Brunson initial arrival provided such a great boost but will teams adjust and leave us clunking & funking

I have to tell you, I’m in the exact opposite viewpoint and we will have to see it shakes out.

Brunson was in his first ever year of starting (full time and especially as the main ball handler), new teammates, and a few of those teammates needed to figure out what less usage meant for their games now that the Knicks had a very good one at the helm.

Maybe teams will scheme for Brunson more but all the other upside positives that point to better cohesion with teammates, his team in better position to feed off of Brunson having so much attention paid to him (and recall that was Miami’s exact strategy, and then Brunson had some pretty gonzo numbers in spite of all that), and just naturally growth from the young guys in general.

gradyandrew @ 10/20/2023 10:50 PM
Knicks finished the regular season last year with one of the top 5 man groups in the NBA, no way Thibs makes any changes to the starters going forward.

Knicks play in preseason should allay some concerns. Remember two years ago when Randle came in to win the Boston preseason game on a buzzer beater? Thibs has enough confidence in this group that he's not going to risk any injuries or giving away anything to scouts. This is a veteran team now. Maybe that was a big reason Obi got traded- great talent but I never saw that guy put on his mean face.


As far as Fournier goes, now there's another guy in front of him in the rotation in DDV. It will take a lot going wrong before Fournier plays again.

Philc1 @ 10/22/2023 12:52 PM
gradyandrew wrote:Knicks finished the regular season last year with one of the top 5 man groups in the NBA, no way Thibs makes any changes to the starters going forward.

Knicks play in preseason should allay some concerns. Remember two years ago when Randle came in to win the Boston preseason game on a buzzer beater? Thibs has enough confidence in this group that he's not going to risk any injuries or giving away anything to scouts. This is a veteran team now. Maybe that was a big reason Obi got traded- great talent but I never saw that guy put on his mean face.


As far as Fournier goes, now there's another guy in front of him in the rotation in DDV. It will take a lot going wrong before Fournier plays again.

Fournier will get his shot to play this year it’s a long season with injuries

LivingLegend @ 10/22/2023 1:36 PM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:I don’t know how you miss Grimes

Randle and RJ play with their tunnel vision on high. Having two players in your starting lineup and get the highest mins, both have too much tunnel vision. This what 5 yrs of chemistry get you? lol

Its a wonder that Thibs and company have figured out how to get the best offensive production our of the Knicks with tunnel visions guys like Randle, RJ and Mitch who doesn't have a ounce of offensive knowhow in him on top of having poor 3point shooters as a team, right?

This is what has me concerned - could last year have been a 1-year deal where Brunson initial arrival provided such a great boost but will teams adjust and leave us clunking & funking

I have to tell you, I’m in the exact opposite viewpoint and we will have to see it shakes out.

Brunson was in his first ever year of starting (full time and especially as the main ball handler), new teammates, and a few of those teammates needed to figure out what less usage meant for their games now that the Knicks had a very good one at the helm.

Maybe teams will scheme for Brunson more but all the other upside positives that point to better cohesion with teammates, his team in better position to feed off of Brunson having so much attention paid to him (and recall that was Miami’s exact strategy, and then Brunson had some pretty gonzo numbers in spite of all that), and just naturally growth from the young guys in general.

I’m hopeful down deep but superficially I like to expect the worst and hopefully everything turns out positively.

martin @ 10/22/2023 2:22 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:I don’t know how you miss Grimes

Randle and RJ play with their tunnel vision on high. Having two players in your starting lineup and get the highest mins, both have too much tunnel vision. This what 5 yrs of chemistry get you? lol

Its a wonder that Thibs and company have figured out how to get the best offensive production our of the Knicks with tunnel visions guys like Randle, RJ and Mitch who doesn't have a ounce of offensive knowhow in him on top of having poor 3point shooters as a team, right?

This is what has me concerned - could last year have been a 1-year deal where Brunson initial arrival provided such a great boost but will teams adjust and leave us clunking & funking

I have to tell you, I’m in the exact opposite viewpoint and we will have to see it shakes out.

Brunson was in his first ever year of starting (full time and especially as the main ball handler), new teammates, and a few of those teammates needed to figure out what less usage meant for their games now that the Knicks had a very good one at the helm.

Maybe teams will scheme for Brunson more but all the other upside positives that point to better cohesion with teammates, his team in better position to feed off of Brunson having so much attention paid to him (and recall that was Miami’s exact strategy, and then Brunson had some pretty gonzo numbers in spite of all that), and just naturally growth from the young guys in general.

I’m hopeful down deep but superficially I like to expect the worst and hopefully everything turns out positively.

We call that the thawing of Knicks expectations PTSD. It’s everywhere

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