Knicks · Villanova Knicks Complete: NY lands Mikal (page 12)
nycericanguy wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.
The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.
Love this trade for the Knicks.
Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly
No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.
why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.
I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.
Simply due to expectations that Randle will come at a cheaper cost. If this is not the case then Randle and OG will be competing for who is kept and who is moved. You def don't let Randle walk as a FA though. You trade him for a different piece to extend the window or future assets.
We have a 2 year window with Brunson, Randle, Mikal, Robinson at their current pay rates. And a 3 year window with Duece, Donte, Hart at theirs.
nycericanguy wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.
The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.
Love this trade for the Knicks.
Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly
No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.
why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.
I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.
The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.
Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.
Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.
We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)
OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.
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What about Kyle Lowry? 
Swishfm3 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.
The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.
Love this trade for the Knicks.
Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly
No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.
why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.
I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.
The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.
Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.
Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.
We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)
OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.
It's not a discount. It's a favorable move - both for the Knicks and for Brunson - that moves the contract money to a different year.
This is an exchange of favors, not a discount.
Swishfm3 wrote:OG is getting paid. He's not giving a discount. He's a high impact player who gets hurt alot. He's 26. This is the time he's getting paid and that's fine. I do believe Randle/Brunson will both take team friendlier deal but time will tell.nycericanguy wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.
The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.
Love this trade for the Knicks.
Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly
No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.
why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.
I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.
The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.
Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.
Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.
We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)
OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.
Get ready for 5/$200mm for OG. It's fine.
My god what rotation Leon has handed to Thibs. We have a legit multi-year window for a title here with nobody aging out. The only concern is paying guys in the future and how that plays out. Lovely problem to have.
We will see how center plays out. IHart's best thing is availability. He can always play. I think his passing isnt missed w/ Randle coming back and being a primary ball handler.
Swishfm3 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.
The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.
Love this trade for the Knicks.
Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly
No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.
why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.
I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.
The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.
Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.
Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.
We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)
OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.
Going after what's been reported. Brunson is willing to take significantly less for Knicks "to add more players" i.e. his buddy's. OG wants his payday. It is what it is and should balance out.
martin wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.
The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.
Love this trade for the Knicks.
Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly
No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.
why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.
I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.
The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.
Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.
Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.
We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)
OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.It's not a discount. It's a favorable move - both for the Knicks and for Brunson - that moves the contract money to a different year.
This is an exchange of favors, not a discount.
We assume that Randle was doing the Knicks FO a "favor" a few years ago in hopes of improving the team and the organization returning the favor at his next extension. Now we (the fans) are ready to ship him off.
Point is, we're asking/expecting the players to forgo millions in hopes that the organization is going to take care of them at the next go around but it not guaranteed. What if Brunson has a terrible injury that takes him out for the season. Are we still expecting the Knicks to do him a solid and max him out?
I don't know man...
Swishfm3 wrote:martin wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.
The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.
Love this trade for the Knicks.
Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly
No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.
why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.
I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.
The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.
Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.
Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.
We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)
OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.It's not a discount. It's a favorable move - both for the Knicks and for Brunson - that moves the contract money to a different year.
This is an exchange of favors, not a discount.
We assume that Randle was doing the Knicks FO a "favor" a few years ago in hopes of improving the team and the organization returning the favor at his next extension. Now we (the fans) are ready to ship him off.
Point is, we're asking/expecting the players to forgo millions in hopes that the organization is going to take care of them at the next go around but it not guaranteed. What if Brunson has a terrible injury that takes him out for the season. Are we still expecting the Knicks to do him a solid and max him out?
I don't know man...
This is how the world moves man. You don’t have to like or understand it.
You keep framing this as forgoing money. That is clearly not the case.