martin wrote:Not bad
We can call that lineup the Krispey Kreme. Sweet and enjoyable on the outside with nothing in the middle.
Knicksfan wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Knicks Current Roster:
GUARANTEED CONTRACTS:
1. Jalen Brunson
2. Karl-Anthony Towns
3. Mikal Bridges
4. OG Anunoby
5. Josh Hart
6. Mitchell Robinson
7. Deuce McBride
8. Precious Achiuwa
9. Jericho Sims
10. Cam Payne
11. Pacome Dadiet
12. Tyler Kolek
(3 open roster spots)
NON-GUARANTEED CONTRACTS:
Landry Shamet
Marcus Morris
Chuma Okeke
The Bobby Marks video breaks down the numbers. Because we are hard capped from the Bridges trade we can only sign one vet minimum contract. So that’s one of Morris or Shamet. The other spot will be filled by converting one of the 2 way contracts.
Between Shamet and Morris, you have to keep Shamet. Love Morris but he’s probably washed. This could be McCullar’s chance if he is healthy. Toppin maybe? Haven’t heard anything about any of Toppin’s progress. Hukporti? He has pro experience.
The thing I’m missing is: we have three open spots now. If we can only sign one vet min and convert one 2-way, then the only way to fill the other spot is by trade or do we have some other exception to use?
I think we still have a 5M MLE
Knicksfan wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Knicks Current Roster:
GUARANTEED CONTRACTS:
1. Jalen Brunson
2. Karl-Anthony Towns
3. Mikal Bridges
4. OG Anunoby
5. Josh Hart
6. Mitchell Robinson
7. Deuce McBride
8. Precious Achiuwa
9. Jericho Sims
10. Cam Payne
11. Pacome Dadiet
12. Tyler Kolek
(3 open roster spots)
NON-GUARANTEED CONTRACTS:
Landry Shamet
Marcus Morris
Chuma Okeke
The Bobby Marks video breaks down the numbers. Because we are hard capped from the Bridges trade we can only sign one vet minimum contract. So that’s one of Morris or Shamet. The other spot will be filled by converting one of the 2 way contracts.
Between Shamet and Morris, you have to keep Shamet. Love Morris but he’s probably washed. This could be McCullar’s chance if he is healthy. Toppin maybe? Haven’t heard anything about any of Toppin’s progress. Hukporti? He has pro experience.
The thing I’m missing is: we have three open spots now. If we can only sign one vet min and convert one 2-way, then the only way to fill the other spot is by trade or do we have some other exception to use?
Spot on. There must be more coming. Need to roster 2 more.
EwingsGlass wrote:Pretty sure there has to be another trade coming. Only have 12 rostered and only 900k of cap room. Predictions on where Mitch ends up? NOP is the most obvious.
Tough to predict, but I agree. I think Mitch is next.
When I first heard about this trade I was very lukewarm.
Not a huge fan of Randle but KAT contract is atrocious.
Also, KAT is good but it's not like he is a superstar.
But then I thought about it more. Knicks are getting the best player in the deal.
That much is certain. And it gives them size which they needed.
Really hated to also give up DD, but as others have stated his role would have diminshed here.
Not good for him. Especially with how much he helped the team this year.
I think the Knicks believe Kolek will be a contributing bench piece soon.
I think the part of this trade that noone is talking about is now the Knicks don't have any trade flexibility since they are a second apron team.
100% moot point, but do Knicks still make this trade if iHart stayed?
MaTT4281 wrote:100% moot point, but do Knicks still make this trade if iHart stayed?
I dunno. The Wolves beat guy makes it seem like the Knicks where showing interest back when iHart was still on the roster.
I would assume Shamet, Mook and Okeke make the team now.
I wouldn't trade Mitch. KAT is a horrific defensive C and Thibs can't play that way. KAT is a better 4.
Towns will be good for ball movement. My only concern is that with Randle gone, Brunson might go back to the ball stopping of his early days in NY.
When RJ was traded, we went from 3 ball dominant players to two, which worked. OG plays off the ball so the ball moved.
Hoping Brunson plays like he did last season, a good mix of scoring, and sharing the rock.
I think this has less to do with finding an iHart replacement and more to do with getting value for Randle. If they were talking with the Wolves since last summer, I'm guessing they were going to just swap KAT for Randle at the 4. The Wolves would have no desire for Mitch or iHart. I'm surprised they even took back Randle to be honest. They already have Naz Reid, who I presume gets signed at a lower number than Randle.
The Knicks have long been linked to Towns. Rose was his agent when he was the head of CAA. Towns Sr. attended
Rose’s first game as Knicks president. Rose and New York exec William Wesley are close friends of the Towns family.They had periodically checked in with Minnesota on Towns, dating back to at least last summer.
But there never seemed to be much traction. As recently as last week, people with the Knicks told associates that they were prepared to start the season with Randle and see how it went.
GustavBahler wrote:Towns will be good for ball movement. My only concern is that with Randle gone, Brunson might go back to the ball stopping of his early days in NY. When RJ was traded, we went from 3 ball dominant players to two, which worked. OG plays off the ball so the ball moved.
Hoping Brunson plays like he did last season, a good mix of scoring, and sharing the rock.
Another concern is that they're now counting on Bridges to step up his creation game. Randle can create shots and put pressure on the interior in a way that KAT doesn't. Bridges will have to fill that void.
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:Not bad
We can call that lineup the Krispey Kreme. Sweet and enjoyable on the outside with nothing in the middle.
I’m a French cruller kind of guy
BigDaddyG wrote:I think this has less to do with finding an iHart replacement and more to do with getting value for Randle. If they were talking with the Wolves since last summer, I'm guessing they were going to just swap KAT for Randle at the 4. The Wolves would have no desire for Mitch or iHart. I'm surprised they even took back Randle to be honest. They already have Naz Reid, who I presume gets signed at a lower number than Randle.
The Knicks have long been linked to Towns. Rose was his agent when he was the head of CAA. Towns Sr. attended Rose’s first game as Knicks president. Rose and New York exec William Wesley are close friends of the Towns family.They had periodically checked in with Minnesota on Towns, dating back to at least last summer.
But there never seemed to be much traction. As recently as last week, people with the Knicks told associates that they were prepared to start the season with Randle and see how it went.
Wouldn't be surprised if Randle is moved by the deadline. Can't see the Wolves extended Naz and Randle.
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:Not bad
We can call that lineup the Krispey Kreme. Sweet and enjoyable on the outside with nothing in the middle.
Honeslty, the same was said when the Celts added KP...we will see...
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Towns will be good for ball movement. My only concern is that with Randle gone, Brunson might go back to the ball stopping of his early days in NY. When RJ was traded, we went from 3 ball dominant players to two, which worked. OG plays off the ball so the ball moved.
Hoping Brunson plays like he did last season, a good mix of scoring, and sharing the rock.
Another concern is that they're now counting on Bridges to step up his creation game. Randle can create shots and put pressure on the interior in a way that KAT doesn't. Bridges will have to fill that void.
Setting good screens for Bridges will be important. The less dribbling, the better.
KAT committing to setting good screens for his teammates will be a big bonus. Especially in the playoffs.
At first I had similar reaction as others to MaTT4281: Nope. But I also think BigDaddyG is correct.
I don’t know the logistics but could the Knicks have still traded Randle, DDV, extra for KAT while iHart still on roster? Hard to know.
If so, the same reasons as BigDaddyG suggests still hold but now with the chance to move Mitch to Pelicans for a Herb Jones’s type.
MaTT4281 wrote:100% moot point, but do Knicks still make this trade if iHart stayed?
BigDaddyG wrote:I think this has less to do with finding an iHart replacement and more to do with getting value for Randle. If they were talking with the Wolves since last summer, I'm guessing they were going to just swap KAT for Randle at the 4. The Wolves would have no desire for Mitch or iHart. I'm surprised they even took back Randle to be honest. They already have Naz Reid, who I presume gets signed at a lower number than Randle.
The Knicks have long been linked to Towns. Rose was his agent when he was the head of CAA. Towns Sr. attended Rose’s first game as Knicks president. Rose and New York exec William Wesley are close friends of the Towns family.They had periodically checked in with Minnesota on Towns, dating back to at least last summer.
But there never seemed to be much traction. As recently as last week, people with the Knicks told associates that they were prepared to start the season with Randle and see how it went.
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Towns will be good for ball movement. My only concern is that with Randle gone, Brunson might go back to the ball stopping of his early days in NY. When RJ was traded, we went from 3 ball dominant players to two, which worked. OG plays off the ball so the ball moved.
Hoping Brunson plays like he did last season, a good mix of scoring, and sharing the rock.
Another concern is that they're now counting on Bridges to step up his creation game. Randle can create shots and put pressure on the interior in a way that KAT doesn't. Bridges will have to fill that void.
Mikal was asked to do that as a franchise player. Here he will be asked to do that mostly for the 2nd unit for portions of time. Which is a lot different.
