Knicks · Mike Brown will be the next NY Knicks coach (page 3)
Rookie wrote:Collaboration that’s cute. So Brown is going to collaborate with Leon on how to administrate the team and he can call Dolan to collaborate on how to own the team?Seems like Mike is getting the job with only minimal power to do his job. The FO is already telling him who his assistants are. Uh, I mean collaborating on who his assistants are. This sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe they can install a hot line on the bench so WWW can send collaborating instructions in real time.
You’ve got it completely flipped.
Well run organizations work this way, especially when it’s to the benefit of multiple different groups.
fishmike wrote:Has Mike Brown ever won a playoff series? Arent all his wins with Lebron teams?Like I thought this was about winning a title. We at least saw Thibs with some quality playoff wins... Cle/Phili/Bos were all quality wins.
It's wild because Brown's rep is playing his guys too much and never adjusting. Y'all are gonna love him
He was COY his first year in Sac and the team got worse each year. They lost to the 6th seeded Warriors in their only playoff appearance.
Look... bottom line is this is a WIN WIN for Knick fans. We either win a title or are at least in the finals and Leon was right again. Or we flame out in the 1st or 2nd round to the Hawks or Bucks, but the important thing will be we did so with leadership and collaboration.
Collaborating with Rick to let JB take 90% of the shots instead of just 70%.
Hey maybe, as some on here are saying, he will come in and install Pete Carril’s famous Princeton offense. Filled with back cuts, ball movement and live pigeons doing tricks?
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Pelicans denied Nuggets permission to interview James Borrego
Marc Stein: League sources say Denver recently sought permission to interview James Borrego for the top spot on David Adelman’s bench. That request was denied since such a move was deemed “lateral.” The Pelicans naturally granted New York permission to interview Borrego for its HC vacancy. – via Twitter TheSteinLine
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Pelicans denied Nuggets permission to interview James Borrego
Marc Stein: League sources say Denver recently sought permission to interview James Borrego for the top spot on David Adelman’s bench. That request was denied since such a move was deemed “lateral.” The Pelicans naturally granted New York permission to interview Borrego for its HC vacancy. – via Twitter TheSteinLine
I'm curious as to who the other candidates for assistant will be and what they bring to the table. Sounds like the FO better have a plan B and C.
Can picks be offered as compensation in this situation?
martin wrote:Rookie wrote:Collaboration that’s cute. So Brown is going to collaborate with Leon on how to administrate the team and he can call Dolan to collaborate on how to own the team?Seems like Mike is getting the job with only minimal power to do his job. The FO is already telling him who his assistants are. Uh, I mean collaborating on who his assistants are. This sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe they can install a hot line on the bench so WWW can send collaborating instructions in real time.
You’ve got it completely flipped.
Well run organizations work this way, especially when it’s to the benefit of multiple different groups.
I’m pretty sure I got it right and Rick Brunson agrees. That dude holds alot of power with this organization. Now Mike is going to have to collaborate with Rick who he didn’t ever hire on how to utilize his son who just happens to have the ball in his hands 90% of the time. This is not how this is supposed to work. They shouldn’t be allowed to call him a head coach if he isn’t really the head coach
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:Collaboration that’s cute. So Brown is going to collaborate with Leon on how to administrate the team and he can call Dolan to collaborate on how to own the team?Seems like Mike is getting the job with only minimal power to do his job. The FO is already telling him who his assistants are. Uh, I mean collaborating on who his assistants are. This sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe they can install a hot line on the bench so WWW can send collaborating instructions in real time.
You’ve got it completely flipped.
Well run organizations work this way, especially when it’s to the benefit of multiple different groups.
I’m pretty sure I got it right and Rick Brunson agrees. That dude holds alot of power with this organization. Now Mike is going to have to collaborate with Rick who he didn’t ever hire on how to utilize his son who just happens to have the ball in his hands 90% of the time. This is not how this is supposed to work. They shouldn’t be allowed to call him a head coach if he isn’t really the head coach
We wont know who is inflencing who until we see how the ball moves next season. The best way to know how much pull Rick has will be where he sits.
It would be a bad look to fire JB's Dad. Rick Brunson has a history with the Knicks that precedes his son. Helped get the Knicks a big discount. He definitely has a seat at the table. Doesnt make him necessarily powerful. It does give him a platform to advocate for his son.
I believe the Knicks FO are smart enough to know when Rick Brunson is putting his kid before the team. And act accordingly. I think this would have been a problem with some past regimes. But Leon has been around the block a few times and Im confident he wont get played.
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Only if you look at it from a weird angle.
Bringing in the best resources to your organization is always a good thing when you can. It’s a reflection on what the FO is trying to do, not necessarily an indicator of Brown.
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:Collaboration that’s cute. So Brown is going to collaborate with Leon on how to administrate the team and he can call Dolan to collaborate on how to own the team?Seems like Mike is getting the job with only minimal power to do his job. The FO is already telling him who his assistants are. Uh, I mean collaborating on who his assistants are. This sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe they can install a hot line on the bench so WWW can send collaborating instructions in real time.
You’ve got it completely flipped.
Well run organizations work this way, especially when it’s to the benefit of multiple different groups.
I’m pretty sure I got it right and Rick Brunson agrees. That dude holds alot of power with this organization. Now Mike is going to have to collaborate with Rick who he didn’t ever hire on how to utilize his son who just happens to have the ball in his hands 90% of the time. This is not how this is supposed to work. They shouldn’t be allowed to call him a head coach if he isn’t really the head coach
I’m pretty sure you are just making stuff up out of thin air and then complaining about exactly what you just made up.
martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:Collaboration that’s cute. So Brown is going to collaborate with Leon on how to administrate the team and he can call Dolan to collaborate on how to own the team?Seems like Mike is getting the job with only minimal power to do his job. The FO is already telling him who his assistants are. Uh, I mean collaborating on who his assistants are. This sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe they can install a hot line on the bench so WWW can send collaborating instructions in real time.
You’ve got it completely flipped.
Well run organizations work this way, especially when it’s to the benefit of multiple different groups.
I’m pretty sure I got it right and Rick Brunson agrees. That dude holds alot of power with this organization. Now Mike is going to have to collaborate with Rick who he didn’t ever hire on how to utilize his son who just happens to have the ball in his hands 90% of the time. This is not how this is supposed to work. They shouldn’t be allowed to call him a head coach if he isn’t really the head coach
I’m pretty sure you are just making stuff up out of thin air and then complaining about exactly what you just made up.
I’m pretty sure we’re calling that ‘collaboration’ now
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Only if you look at it from a weird angle.
Bringing in the best resources to your organization is always a good thing when you can. It’s a reflection on what the FO is trying to do, not necessarily an indicator of Brown.
Weird angle only if those “best resources” are not the lead assistant for the former Head Coach nor an assistant who was in the running for the job you were just hired for.
The “normal process” is for a coach to pick his own assistants. Aka, trust in the guy you just hired to put together a winning staff and one he is comfortable with. Maybe reason why Jenkins did not work out. Since that is what happened to him in Memphis and did not go well. This reeks more and more like what I have been saying. Rick and JB in charge and Dolan appeasing them with a collaborative pick.
Hey, doesn’t matter if it works and we are better. But I took off my Rose colored lenses a long time ago as a Knick fan. Or maybe it’s from being in finance for so many years. Where you see how cut throat business is. And the NBA is a huge business.
VDesai wrote:Its not an upgrade or downgrade. Its simply can this voice get them over a progrssion hump and maximize the talent. Brown will have to open up the offense and find new ways to cover for KAT and Jalen defensively.He has a long track record of winning. He has a lot of expertise. I dont know if he is "better" than Thibs. Thibs probably can do more with less. Can Brown do more with more?
One way to cover is for there to score more like early in season. At end of day it’s a net issue
He first needs to unlock all of the possible offense. Then worry about D
We still lack a true pg. I hope we run more to get on and Mikel some easy buckets
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Only if you look at it from a weird angle.
Bringing in the best resources to your organization is always a good thing when you can. It’s a reflection on what the FO is trying to do, not necessarily an indicator of Brown.
Weird angle only if those “best resources” are not the lead assistant for the former Head Coach nor an assistant who was in the running for the job you were just hired for.
The “normal process” is for a coach to pick his own assistants. Aka, trust in the guy you just hired to put together a winning staff and one he is comfortable with. Maybe reason why Jenkins did not work out. Since that is what happened to him in Memphis and did not go well. This reeks more and more like what I have been saying. Rick and JB in charge and Dolan appeasing them with a collaborative pick.
Hey, doesn’t matter if it works and we are better. But I took off my Rose colored lenses a long time ago as a Knick fan. Or maybe it’s from being in finance for so many years. Where you see how cut throat business is. And the NBA is a huge business.
When Thibs was hired, Johnny Bryant and Mike Woodson were picked by the FO, not Thibs....
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Only if you look at it from a weird angle.
Bringing in the best resources to your organization is always a good thing when you can. It’s a reflection on what the FO is trying to do, not necessarily an indicator of Brown.
Weird angle only if those “best resources” are not the lead assistant for the former Head Coach nor an assistant who was in the running for the job you were just hired for.
The “normal process” is for a coach to pick his own assistants. Aka, trust in the guy you just hired to put together a winning staff and one he is comfortable with. Maybe reason why Jenkins did not work out. Since that is what happened to him in Memphis and did not go well. This reeks more and more like what I have been saying. Rick and JB in charge and Dolan appeasing them with a collaborative pick.
Hey, doesn’t matter if it works and we are better. But I took off my Rose colored lenses a long time ago as a Knick fan. Or maybe it’s from being in finance for so many years. Where you see how cut throat business is. And the NBA is a huge business.
Leon and Wes did this when Thibs was hired. Make that work with the Brunson connection.
Maybe this type of thing is not of your flavor but it don’t mean it’s necessarily bad. But you went all conspiracy for no reason.
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:Collaboration that’s cute. So Brown is going to collaborate with Leon on how to administrate the team and he can call Dolan to collaborate on how to own the team?Seems like Mike is getting the job with only minimal power to do his job. The FO is already telling him who his assistants are. Uh, I mean collaborating on who his assistants are. This sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe they can install a hot line on the bench so WWW can send collaborating instructions in real time.
You’ve got it completely flipped.
Well run organizations work this way, especially when it’s to the benefit of multiple different groups.
I’m pretty sure I got it right and Rick Brunson agrees. That dude holds alot of power with this organization. Now Mike is going to have to collaborate with Rick who he didn’t ever hire on how to utilize his son who just happens to have the ball in his hands 90% of the time. This is not how this is supposed to work. They shouldn’t be allowed to call him a head coach if he isn’t really the head coach
I’m pretty sure you are just making stuff up out of thin air and then complaining about exactly what you just made up.
I’m pretty sure we’re calling that ‘collaboration’ now
Making up stuff and attributing to something is your collaboration.
I am very grateful for what Thibs did but I think we squeezed all the juice out of that orange. His teams play hard but too often things look more difficult than one expects. I feel he has been exposed more than anything else in playoffs where we have lost to inferior teams (though ironically we also beat better teams).
Speculation on my part but I do wonder whether thibs ignored advice from others, which advice turned out to be good
Go Knicks!
For those wondering and asking well, why was he fired in Sacramento? Same reason Thibs was fired, and Malone was fired, and Vogel was fired, and Bud, etc....Coaches are hired to be fired. And typically, the press release has something to do with coach and front office not being on the same page....
Rookie wrote:martin wrote:Rookie wrote:Collaboration that’s cute. So Brown is going to collaborate with Leon on how to administrate the team and he can call Dolan to collaborate on how to own the team?Seems like Mike is getting the job with only minimal power to do his job. The FO is already telling him who his assistants are. Uh, I mean collaborating on who his assistants are. This sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe they can install a hot line on the bench so WWW can send collaborating instructions in real time.
You’ve got it completely flipped.
Well run organizations work this way, especially when it’s to the benefit of multiple different groups.
I’m pretty sure I got it right and Rick Brunson agrees. That dude holds alot of power with this organization. Now Mike is going to have to collaborate with Rick who he didn’t ever hire on how to utilize his son who just happens to have the ball in his hands 90% of the time. This is not how this is supposed to work. They shouldn’t be allowed to call him a head coach if he isn’t really the head coach
If it leads to ECC contention...
SupremeCommander wrote:I feel like he's the same guy as Thibs, so this feels like change for the sake of change
I've seen this narrative and I do not think its accurate....