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djsunyc @ 5/21/2009 12:08 PM
peavy to the whitesox...
nyk4ever @ 5/21/2009 12:10 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

peavy to the whitesox...

Watch his ERA skyrocket..
djsunyc @ 5/21/2009 12:13 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

peavy to the whitesox...

Watch his ERA skyrocket..

never a peavy fan. out of the NL west - dude is gonna get lit.
Rookie @ 5/21/2009 1:34 PM
Is it too soon to move Posada to the DH spot and hand over the starting job to Cervelli? Yank pitchers seem to have alot of confidence in Cervelli as a backstop and his defensive play has been outstanding. He also has been a GREAT situational hitter. I think Posada is too old and injury prone to be the everyday catcher anymore and Cervelli hasn't given any reason to send him back to the minors. Posada's bat will be a welcome addition in the 5th spot, adding another switch hitter to the line-up and he has been money with RISP, but I think his days as a starting catcher are numbered, and he's not going to play 1st base either. The Yankees always seem to wait to long to make the right decision, I say its time to put the fans and team first for a change

[Edited by - Rookie on 05-21-2009 1:36 PM]
mattshaw78 @ 5/21/2009 1:37 PM
The problem is the Yankees have full of DHs people
djsunyc @ 5/21/2009 2:24 PM
Posted by Rookie:

Is it too soon to move Posada to the DH spot and hand over the starting job to Cervelli? Yank pitchers seem to have alot of confidence in Cervelli as a backstop and his defensive play has been outstanding. He also has been a GREAT situational hitter. I think Posada is too old and injury prone to be the everyday catcher anymore and Cervelli hasn't given any reason to send him back to the minors. Posada's bat will be a welcome addition in the 5th spot, adding another switch hitter to the line-up and he has been money with RISP, but I think his days as a starting catcher are numbered, and he's not going to play 1st base either. The Yankees always seem to wait to long to make the right decision, I say its time to put the fans and team first for a change

i think posada *has* to catch, otherwise it will cost them damon next season. i like cervelli alot, but if posada becomes the everyday dh (something i don't think he would like), then that means we can't re-sign damon next year...and if the choice is damon or posada to dh, then i pick damon.

posada will catch next year. if cervelli keeps this up, he can be the backup, but could play quite a bit as posada can dh at times and platoon with whomever we sign to be a fulltime dh.
TMS @ 5/21/2009 2:27 PM
Posted by Rookie:

Is it too soon to move Posada to the DH spot and hand over the starting job to Cervelli? Yank pitchers seem to have alot of confidence in Cervelli as a backstop and his defensive play has been outstanding. He also has been a GREAT situational hitter. I think Posada is too old and injury prone to be the everyday catcher anymore and Cervelli hasn't given any reason to send him back to the minors. Posada's bat will be a welcome addition in the 5th spot, adding another switch hitter to the line-up and he has been money with RISP, but I think his days as a starting catcher are numbered, and he's not going to play 1st base either. The Yankees always seem to wait to long to make the right decision, I say its time to put the fans and team first for a change

[Edited by - Rookie on 05-21-2009 1:36 PM]

maybe next year that might be an option, but right now Jorge needs to catch... personally i don't think this team is best served using Jorge as a DH... i'd sign Damon to stay on & be our fulltime DH cuz the guy can obviously still rake & he's still 1 of the better top of the order hitters in the majors... Matsui & Nady will likely be gone after this season, & Austin Jackson will be called up soon to get a look in the OF... as long as Melky keeps hitting he's gonna be in the lineup... so unless the Yankees trade Swisher there's no place for Jorge to get AB's except as our fulltime C... i love the job Cervelli's done but i think he's best utilized as our backup for now... i'd even keep Molina on the roster until his present contract expires & go 3 deep at the C position cuz Jorge's health will be an issue from here on out.
TMS @ 5/21/2009 2:34 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

peavy to the whitesox...

Sox gave up a helluva lefty prospect in Poreda to get him... has Peavy waived his NTC already?
Rookie @ 5/21/2009 3:00 PM
I think the one point you guys missed is that Posada, who turns 38 in two months, has been injury prone. He is more likely to stay in the line-up as a DH. At this point, I think his bat is more valuable than his catching, especially when we have two guys who are better defensive catchers on the roster. Damon has an every day spot in the outfield and Matsui is likely headed for the DL again IMHO. His knees are shot.

I think the Yanks would like to see Gardner mature into the lead-off spot. He's got the tools and he's a gritty player, he just needs to continue to build his confidence and get his OBP up. With Damon, I hope his body can hold up over 161 games. We'll have to wait and see, but I don't think he's going to physically be able to play at this level come September.


[Edited by - Rookie on 05-21-2009 3:07 PM]
TMS @ 5/21/2009 3:15 PM
keeping Damon as our everyday LFer is also an option but to me the guy is a trainwreck in the OF at this point... even routine pop ups are an adventure w/this guy... Jorge's value to this team is as a C... if like u say Matsui is headed to the DL, then obviously Jorge can be used as a DH this season, but u can be sure that he'll be catching games as well... they didn't sign him to a 4 year extension last year so he could be a DH for 3 of them.

Gardner will be used as a reserve OFer / pinch runner this year... Melky has wrested that starting role away from him... Gardner had his shot this year... they may give him another look during ST next offseason but they're not gonna have both Gardner & Melky starting in the OF... if anything, Austin Jackson is next in line for a starting position but that won't be for another year at the very least.
Rookie @ 5/21/2009 3:33 PM
With the ban of more and more controlled substances, older players aren't holding up over a long season. I don't think it's any surprise that young teams will be in the hunt at the end of the year (Rays) and old teams will fade (Yankees). We need to keep playing our young players - Cervelli, Gardner, Pena need to get playing time. Old players - Posada, Damon, Matsui are not our future. the veterans are going to need to accept their roles. I think Posada is going to take it the hardest. He really looks like he's the only one not having any fun playing the game. I think Cervelli has the confidence of the pitching staff and Posada needs to do the right thing - keep himself healthy by being the DH. We are going to need him to get into the playoffs and we need him healthy to win in the playoffs.
VDesai @ 5/21/2009 8:29 PM
Peavy turned down that trade.

And the Yankees are freaking awesome. I love Aceves.
VDesai @ 5/21/2009 9:00 PM
Alby sucks when he's not coming in to get out of a jam...its weird
VDesai @ 5/21/2009 10:03 PM
2 straight sweeps and 9 in a row for the Yanks.

[Edited by - vdesai on 05-21-2009 10:07 PM]
Bonn1997 @ 5/22/2009 6:11 AM
Why did Aceves get the win? Doesn't a starter have to get through the 5th inning to get a win? A reliever does not, though?
Bonn1997 @ 5/22/2009 6:14 AM
Getting back to that other discussion, I'm the only one here who would take CC as one of their top 5 choices?! He's a perennial Cy Young candidate still in his 20s.
djsunyc @ 5/22/2009 9:50 AM
big 3 game weekend. yanks fans are cheering the mets and vice versa...
djsunyc @ 5/22/2009 10:43 AM
ok...a popular topic but let's give some props to cashman.

a team who's minor league system ranked amongst the worst in 2005 has been radically transformed.

we have cano and now melky. we have guys like gardner contributing. and we are seeing some really nice flashes from cervelli. joba has been good and hughes is starting to come around. coke is a reliable lefty in the pen too and now aceves is looking like ramiro mendoza part 2. it takes a long time to rebuild a farm system and cashman, imho, is doing a good job.
Bonn1997 @ 5/22/2009 11:38 AM
He's good at getting young bullpen pitching arms. I've always given him credit for that. Even when I kept hoping for a new GM, I said I'd want him retained as an advanced bullpen pitching scout (although he probably wouldn't accept the offer).

As far as using the farm system for hitters/fielders for our current roster is concerned, he's gotten us 1 very good hitter/fielder in Cano and 1 who's looked very good for a fourth of one season in Melky. That's not terrible but it doesn't strike me as amazing either.
VDesai @ 5/22/2009 3:17 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Why did Aceves get the win? Doesn't a starter have to get through the 5th inning to get a win? A reliever does not, though?

Right
Allanfan20 @ 5/22/2009 3:17 PM
Bonn, Melky had 2 pretty nice seasons before last. People seem to forget that. No reason to believe he'll have a bad one, now that he's off to a hot start.
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