vmart you missed the whole point. yes, the yankees haven't looked good, but there were instances in both games where they could've swung the momentum in their favor/win the game but didnt b/c of bizarre circumstances. i think the bronx will turn that mojo around, thats all im saying.
anything happens in game 5s.
Posted by BigSm00th:
vmart you missed the whole point. yes, the yankees haven't looked good, but there were instances in both games where they could've swung the momentum in their favor/win the game but didnt b/c of bizarre circumstances. i think the bronx will turn that mojo around, thats all im saying.
anything happens in game 5s.
Bigsmooth, I got that point but coulda shoulda isn't going to cut it here thats part of the game thats what decides winners and losers in this game and to simply say they had a chance to change circumstances is stating the obvious but the reality is they didn't do it there were more circumstance in favor of the Indians to blow the game out than the Yankees had and that my friend is the scary part of this. Posada was in a situation to do damage in game 1 but failed why because he was scared to succeed. These guys are scared hitters out there and I can almost guarantee a big hit in a big spot not coming from these guys. They have to want it and they don't want it because they can't handle playoff pressure anymore. You guys are counting on game 5 when you aren't going to see a game 5 these guys in my eyes have packed their bags for their vacations. I hope I'm wrong because I have tickets for game 4 I want to see it.
Guys, guys, you're about to hit the panic button!! Need to chillout!
Yankees are back home with Clemens on the mound. He lives for these moments! They'll come back and A-rod will finally come out of his slump.
Remember, the yankees were tied 2nd for the best home record in MLB with Cleveland.
It's game 5 i would be concerned with but right now we need to take 3 and 4 at home.
The Boss to Torre: Win or else
Sunday, October 7, 2007
By IAN O'CONNOR
Joe Torre's 12-year run as manager of the Yankees will likely end if his team does not rally to beat the Cleveland Indians in the AL Division Series, George Steinbrenner told The Record on Saturday night.
"His job is on the line," the Yankees' owner said in a phone interview. "I think we're paying him a lot of money. He's the highest-paid manager in baseball, so I don't think we'd take him back if we don't win this series."
Torre is in the final year of a contract worth $7 million this season. He has led his team to four World Series titles and 12 consecutive playoff appearances and was universally hailed this year for weathering a 21-29 start.
"He's been good for us over the years," Steinbrenner acknowledged.
But down 0-2 in the best-of-five series with Cleveland entering tonight's Game 3 at Yankee Stadium, and facing the prospect of a first-round postseason exit for the third consecutive year, Steinbrenner -- who nearly fired Torre after last year's Division Series loss to Detroit – is running dangerously low on patience. Earlier Saturday, at a Stadium news conference, Torre had said, "We certainly need to find out what we're made of. ..."
"I think that's a good statement," Steinbrenner said. "They'd better show what they're made of."
Once known for his blustery, omnipresent approach, the 77-year-old Steinbrenner has been an increasingly distant figure in Yankeedom, inspiring speculation about his health. He has stayed away from the Stadium and reduced most of his public comments to pre-packaged statements released through his spokesman, Howard Rubenstein.
But with his team teetering on the brink of a knockout, the old Steinbrenner came out swinging on Saturday night, putting Torre on immediate notice and ripping into umpire Bruce Froemming, the veteran crew chief from Friday night's Game 2 who declined to stop play despite an infestation of Lake Erie gnats.
"The umpire was full of [expletive]," Steinbrenner said of the retiring Froemming. "He won't umpire our games anymore."
In the wake of that Game 2 defeat, Steinbrenner said the Yankees had complained to baseball commissioner Bud Selig about the decision to play on. "[Selig] just said, 'That's in the umpires' hands,' " Steinbrenner said. "But Jesus Christ, it was terrible. It messed up the whole team, [Derek] Jeter, all of them."
If the bugs also messed up Alex Rodriguez, the superstar forever burdened by October angst, Steinbrenner said A-Rod's struggles won't temper his desire to re-sign the free agent-to-be, who will likely seek a contract worth more than $30 million per year.
"I think we'll re-sign him," Steinbrenner said of Rodriguez. "I think he's going to have a good run the rest of the [postseason]. I think he realizes New York is the place to be, the place to play. A lot of this [postseason] is laying on his shoulders, you know, but I think he's up to it."
Despite the recent organizational promotions of his son, Hal, and son-in-law, Felix Lopez, Steinbrenner made it clear he will be the one who decides how much to offer Rodriguez and whether to offer Torre anything at all.
"I have full control," Steinbrenner said. The owner maintained that rumors of his declining health were false.
"I'm doing all right," he said. "I'm fine."
Steinbrenner said the first two games in Cleveland left him disappointed, not defeated. He believes the Yankees will win three consecutive sudden-death games to advance to the American League Championship Series.
"I think we're going to be OK," he said. "I just think we've got the team. We can hit; I think our hitters got that out of their craw [Friday] night.
"We'll see how good our team is [tonight]."
In Game 3, the Yankees won't just play for their season. They'll play for their manager's job.
[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-07-2007 2:59 PM]
Posted by djsunyc:
The Boss to Torre: Win or else
Sunday, October 7, 2007
By IAN O'CONNOR
Joe Torre's 12-year run as manager of the Yankees will likely end if his team does not rally to beat the Cleveland Indians in the AL Division Series, George Steinbrenner told The Record on Saturday night.
"His job is on the line," the Yankees' owner said in a phone interview. "I think we're paying him a lot of money. He's the highest-paid manager in baseball, so I don't think we'd take him back if we don't win this series."
Torre is in the final year of a contract worth $7 million this season. He has led his team to four World Series titles and 12 consecutive playoff appearances and was universally hailed this year for weathering a 21-29 start.
"He's been good for us over the years," Steinbrenner acknowledged.
But down 0-2 in the best-of-five series with Cleveland entering tonight's Game 3 at Yankee Stadium, and facing the prospect of a first-round postseason exit for the third consecutive year, Steinbrenner -- who nearly fired Torre after last year's Division Series loss to Detroit – is running dangerously low on patience. Earlier Saturday, at a Stadium news conference, Torre had said, "We certainly need to find out what we're made of. ..."
"I think that's a good statement," Steinbrenner said. "They'd better show what they're made of."
Once known for his blustery, omnipresent approach, the 77-year-old Steinbrenner has been an increasingly distant figure in Yankeedom, inspiring speculation about his health. He has stayed away from the Stadium and reduced most of his public comments to pre-packaged statements released through his spokesman, Howard Rubenstein.
But with his team teetering on the brink of a knockout, the old Steinbrenner came out swinging on Saturday night, putting Torre on immediate notice and ripping into umpire Bruce Froemming, the veteran crew chief from Friday night's Game 2 who declined to stop play despite an infestation of Lake Erie gnats.
"The umpire was full of [expletive]," Steinbrenner said of the retiring Froemming. "He won't umpire our games anymore."
In the wake of that Game 2 defeat, Steinbrenner said the Yankees had complained to baseball commissioner Bud Selig about the decision to play on. "[Selig] just said, 'That's in the umpires' hands,' " Steinbrenner said. "But Jesus Christ, it was terrible. It messed up the whole team, [Derek] Jeter, all of them."
If the bugs also messed up Alex Rodriguez, the superstar forever burdened by October angst, Steinbrenner said A-Rod's struggles won't temper his desire to re-sign the free agent-to-be, who will likely seek a contract worth more than $30 million per year.
"I think we'll re-sign him," Steinbrenner said of Rodriguez. "I think he's going to have a good run the rest of the [postseason]. I think he realizes New York is the place to be, the place to play. A lot of this [postseason] is laying on his shoulders, you know, but I think he's up to it."
Despite the recent organizational promotions of his son, Hal, and son-in-law, Felix Lopez, Steinbrenner made it clear he will be the one who decides how much to offer Rodriguez and whether to offer Torre anything at all.
"I have full control," Steinbrenner said. The owner maintained that rumors of his declining health were false.
"I'm doing all right," he said. "I'm fine."
Steinbrenner said the first two games in Cleveland left him disappointed, not defeated. He believes the Yankees will win three consecutive sudden-death games to advance to the American League Championship Series.
"I think we're going to be OK," he said. "I just think we've got the team. We can hit; I think our hitters got that out of their craw [Friday] night.
"We'll see how good our team is [tonight]."
In Game 3, the Yankees won't just play for their season. They'll play for their manager's job.
[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-07-2007 2:59 PM]
Good.
I think Torre has gone as far as he can go with this team if they lose this series.
Giambi's playing first today. I'd rather see him DH and the injured Matsui sit but I guess Joe knows more about Matsui's health than I do.
What a disastrous three innings by Jeter. Two GIDPs and what should have been called an error in the field, leading to a run.
Johnny Damon baby! Hopefully that loosens them up.
They better not be taking Hughes out after just 3 2/3. He's freakin' unhittable.
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 10-07-2007 9:28 PM]
I guess they're looking for a double play but I wouldn't have walked Matsui to get to Cano.
Nice, 2 run single that goes under Nixon's glove to score a 3rd run and Cano goes to third.
Awesome!
hard to beat our bombers at home. tied for 2nd best home record! YES! LETS GO YANKEES!
I don't know if you put Joba in this early. 5 run lead and another must win game tomorrow. If they need Joba tomorrow this is a HUGE mistake.
I think Torre is thinking about his job.
Hughes could have went at least another inning the way he was dealing.
I totally agree but what we have to think now is for Mussina to pitch the best game of his life tomorrow.
Im talkin 8 innings of superb pitching.
I think he can do it!!
Is Joba going to pitch the 8th inning too? It's a mistake to make him go 2 innings with a 5 run lead when you want him to be at 100% strength for tomorrow's game.
once again! Hopefully Mussina pitches a gem tomorrow giving us 8 solid innings where we wouldn't need Joba, only MAriano.!
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
I totally agree but what we have to think now is for Mussina to pitch the best game of his life tomorrow.
Im talkin 8 innings of superb pitching.
I think he can do it!!
I'm not betting my season on that. If you do, you deserve to be fired.
I would have went with Hughes for another inning and then Viz for the 8th. Depending on the score I would have let Viz go 2 innings.
At most, I'd go with Joba for 1 inning. If he comes out for another inning it's just dumb. He needs to be able to go 2 innings tomorrow if he has to.
Is Mussina definitely pitching tomorrow (rather than Wang)?
who knows but i know one thing, Yankees ain't scared of Paul Bryd. C'mon, Paul Byrd?
Wang's so much better at home. I'd go with Wang tomorrow and Pettitte in game 5. Put your best weapons out there and if you lose, so be it. Don't go with Mr. 5.15 ERA Mussina. And even if you do win that game, then you put Wang on the mound on the road where he's not nearly as effective.
I agree, go with Wang tomorrow. He's so much better at home. Plus he hasn't pitched much the last few weeks so his sinker is up too much. He's too strong. Pitching on short rest might help him keep his sinker down.
Ok, Fire Torre if they need Joba tomorrow and he's not able to pitch because he's pitching 2 innings tonight with a 5 run lead.
Joba is not a mopup guy!!!
