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jimimou @ 4/9/2010 8:41 AM
Finestrg wrote:WOW. Just WOW. What an f'in joke. First off, if they were gonna pull shit like this and to this great an extent, at least tell the two managers before the game starts. Give them an opportunity to inform their teams...Don't just blindside everyone envolved. It just wasn't cool and was a major distraction for everyone involved, pitchers & batters, everyone..No one on either side knew what to make of it, I mean you could see it....Just look at some of the comments by Posada, Jeter, Girardi afterwards.. And look at the TV announcers - they were forced to waste time commenting extensively on the subject after a while because it was so distracting, instead of talking about the game, the teams and the players. That shouldn't be...Not only did it come completely outta leftfield but Hernandez really looked like he was a dick about it to boot...Pathetic and embarrassing?!?! WTF is this idiot talking about?!? Yeah OK buddy, that's why the first game of the season was a Yankee/Red Sux game in prime time on ESPN. Not bad for two pathetic & embarrassing teams huh?? It's the best rivalry in baseball, probably in all of sports and this series was awesome with a capital A, despite the grandstanding sideshow by the umpires... Every Yankees/Boston series is awesome for that matter - that's what people care about and pay to see, not the umpiring...Funny, the only thing sub par about this series was the umpiring (forget all the granting time-out nonsense from the other night -- how 'bout the way that friggin' homeplate ump was squeezin' the shit out of Andy last night?? God, I was screaming at the TV throughout the entire game). Shut your mouth fat ass - it's a privilege for you to be out there umpiring a baseball game in the first place. 'Cowboy' Joe West..What a mother^&%$#@$ joke, I swear. As if this fool's important enough to even have a nickname. Couldn't care less about his resume or how long he's been around -- this guy's always been terrible from what I've seen...Nobody cares about you or your double chin pal, trust me on that...It's about the players. Your only job is to go out there, shut your mouth, remain impartial & try not to screw things up too badly. That's it...Hey, we all know umpires are due for a handful of screwups every game -- it's a hard job, I understand that. I wouldn't normally say anything but with this guy popping off the way he did, now the gloves have to come off a little bit... Hey Cowboy Joke, err Joe: Why don't you worry about that rather than insulting and disrespecting these two teams? How 'bout that? Some of these dopes really think they're bigger than baseball. Well they're not. F this moron...


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TMS @ 4/9/2010 9:14 AM
jimimou wrote:
Finestrg wrote:WOW. Just WOW. What an f'in joke. First off, if they were gonna pull shit like this and to this great an extent, at least tell the two managers before the game starts. Give them an opportunity to inform their teams...Don't just blindside everyone envolved. It just wasn't cool and was a major distraction for everyone involved, pitchers & batters, everyone..No one on either side knew what to make of it, I mean you could see it....Just look at some of the comments by Posada, Jeter, Girardi afterwards.. And look at the TV announcers - they were forced to waste time commenting extensively on the subject after a while because it was so distracting, instead of talking about the game, the teams and the players. That shouldn't be...Not only did it come completely outta leftfield but Hernandez really looked like he was a dick about it to boot...Pathetic and embarrassing?!?! WTF is this idiot talking about?!? Yeah OK buddy, that's why the first game of the season was a Yankee/Red Sux game in prime time on ESPN. Not bad for two pathetic & embarrassing teams huh?? It's the best rivalry in baseball, probably in all of sports and this series was awesome with a capital A, despite the grandstanding sideshow by the umpires... Every Yankees/Boston series is awesome for that matter - that's what people care about and pay to see, not the umpiring...Funny, the only thing sub par about this series was the umpiring (forget all the granting time-out nonsense from the other night -- how 'bout the way that friggin' homeplate ump was squeezin' the shit out of Andy last night?? God, I was screaming at the TV throughout the entire game). Shut your mouth fat ass - it's a privilege for you to be out there umpiring a baseball game in the first place. 'Cowboy' Joe West..What a mother^&%$#@$ joke, I swear. As if this fool's important enough to even have a nickname. Couldn't care less about his resume or how long he's been around -- this guy's always been terrible from what I've seen...Nobody cares about you or your double chin pal, trust me on that...It's about the players. Your only job is to go out there, shut your mouth, remain impartial & try not to screw things up too badly. That's it...Hey, we all know umpires are due for a handful of screwups every game -- it's a hard job, I understand that. I wouldn't normally say anything but with this guy popping off the way he did, now the gloves have to come off a little bit... Hey Cowboy Joke, err Joe: Why don't you worry about that rather than insulting and disrespecting these two teams? How 'bout that? Some of these dopes really think they're bigger than baseball. Well they're not. F this moron...


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TMS @ 4/9/2010 9:18 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Not sure if he needs to be insulted like that. Maybe he didn't say it in the nicest way but he is right. No game needs to be 4 hours, no matter the sport. A game shouldn't take that long to complete. But the Yankees and Red Sox also aren't the only 2 teams that do this. There are others, but they just chose the 2 biggest clubs.

u'r kidding me right? this guy thinks he's so damn important he has the right to call the 2 greatest franchises in the game pathetic & a disgrace to baseball because they're stretching games out to 4 hours or more? is this because the fans are complaining about this or because MLB is grading the umps on the pace of the game? if there's anything pathetic & a disgrace to baseball in this situation, it's umpires like Joe West who think they're bigger than the game.

knicks1248 @ 4/9/2010 10:36 AM
Embaraasing and disgrace is a bit much, but so is a catcher meeting with a pitcher 8 times in one inning.
djsunyc @ 4/9/2010 10:55 AM
commercial breaks between innings: 2 mins 30 secs
time before 1st pitch after returning from commercial: 30 secs

typical 9 innings game, that comes out to 16 breaks at 3 mins a break = 48 mins

if they want to speed games up, make that commercial break 2 mins and start the first pitch right after coming back.

nyk4ever @ 4/9/2010 12:44 PM
you know I absolutely agree with the umpires. the yankees/red sox games take unnecessarily too long. Now baseball is my favorite sport by far and my favorite sport to watch, but 3 and a half hours to play a game is ridiculous. I'm sick of watching guys step out of the box after EVERY SINGLE pitch to spit on their batting gloves and do whatever god forsaken routine they must do. I hope this is a sticking point for the rest of the season and I'm happy Joe West opened his fat mouth (literally fat mouth).

edit: I agree with their saying that the games take too long, nothing else. I do not agree with him calling it pathetic and a disgrace.

TMS @ 4/9/2010 1:18 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Embaraasing and disgrace is a bit much, but so is a catcher meeting with a pitcher 8 times in one inning.

that much i will agree with, they should limit the amount of visits to the mound in each innings between C & Pitcher... but asking for a timeout & not granting it is ridiculous... what if some dust or a big ass bug flies into your eye during a huge AB in a game & you ask for time & the ump doesn't grant it? lol... seriously tho, a batter needs to be ready for the pitch just like the pitcher needs to be ready to throw it, that's just good sportsmanship... to save what, 5-10 extra minutes in total over the course of the game isn't going to affect any noticeable change in the length of games... but 1 single time out that's not granted could affect the outcome of an entire game.

TMS @ 4/9/2010 8:34 PM
Javy V picking up right where he left off. >:(
Finestrg @ 4/9/2010 8:40 PM
TMS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Embaraasing and disgrace is a bit much, but so is a catcher meeting with a pitcher 8 times in one inning.

that much i will agree with, they should limit the amount of visits to the mound in each innings between C & Pitcher... but asking for a timeout & not granting it is ridiculous... what if some dust or a big ass bug flies into your eye during a huge AB in a game & you ask for time & the ump doesn't grant it? lol... seriously tho, a batter needs to be ready for the pitch just like the pitcher needs to be ready to throw it, that's just good sportsmanship... to save what, 5-10 extra minutes in total over the course of the game isn't going to affect any noticeable change in the length of games... but 1 single time out that's not granted could affect the outcome of an entire game.

You're right - tremendous points. It was a joke I tell ya...

Finestrg @ 4/9/2010 8:42 PM
TMS wrote:Javy V picking up right where he left off. >:(

I knew you'd be pissed about this game so far. Man they were this close to getting out of that inning only down 3-2....Good effort by Thames - I wonder if he should've been guarding the line more (Vasquez has thrown a lot of off-speed stuff so far in this game and you got a guy with very good speed in center. Oh well )....Still got half a game left so we'll see what happens. Price is tough though... Javy's throw the ball well outside of a few bad pitches. A few bad ones always wind up being the difference makers though it seems...Let's see if we can mount a comeback here.

Finestrg @ 4/9/2010 8:47 PM
Wow price has thrown only 60 pitches through 5....Javy's up around 90 already...
TMS @ 4/9/2010 9:10 PM
Javy sucks big ass balls
Childs2Dudley @ 4/9/2010 9:18 PM
Why did we ever bring this scrub back? Dumb move.
Finestrg @ 4/10/2010 12:36 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Why did we ever bring this scrub back? Dumb move.

I know his bad performance for us against Boston years ago still bothers a lot of us but for what we gave up to bring him back, I think it was another real solid move by Cash. He's a very solid #4. I think he'll rebound well his next start. I'm not really worried about this guy..

TMS @ 4/10/2010 10:50 AM
Finestrg wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Why did we ever bring this scrub back? Dumb move.

I know his bad performance for us against Boston years ago still bothers a lot of us but for what we gave up to bring him back, I think it was another real solid move by Cash. He's a very solid #4. I think he'll rebound well his next start. I'm not really worried about this guy..

Javy will look excellent against the Royals, Orioles, A's, Indians, etc... in big games vs. AL rivals he's going to be exposed, i'm trying to warn you!!!

TMS @ 4/10/2010 12:19 PM
Umpire's comments perplex Derek Jeter
Saturday, April 10, 2010
BY PETE CALDERA
The Record
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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – Derek Jeter found it astonishing that the Yankees and Red Sox were party to something "pathetic" and "embarrassing" because of the length of their games.

"I know they’re making adjustments, or trying to make adjustments to do deal with that. But this one’s a new one," Jeter said, reacting to veteran umpire Joe West’s critical statements in Thursday’s edition of The Record about the time of the rivals’ contests.

"They’re two of the best teams in baseball. Why are they playing the slowest?" West told The Record’s Jeff Roberts at Fenway Park. "It’s pathetic and embarrassing. They take too long to play."

Jeter wasn’t clear on West’s choice of words.

"Ask him what’s pathetic or embarrassing," Jeter said prior to Friday’s game against the Rays. "If [a game] is 20 minutes shorter, it’s not pathetic or embarrassing? If you go over 3:12, it’s embarrassing?"

According to a report on ESPNBoston.com, Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia called West’s comments "ridiculous."

Red Sox manager Terry Francona called the remarks "troubling."

At Fenway, the Yankees’ opening two games of the season averaged 3 hours and 47 minutes.

During those games, Andy Pettitte noticed that West and Angel Hernandez, who each worked a game at home plate, did not grant some batters’ requests for time out.

"Obviously, you’re sitting on the bench going, ‘What in the world is going on here?’" Pettitte said. "I’ve never not seen them give a hitter a timeout before."

It got to a point where Pettitte nearly told some Yankees’ pitcher to deliver a pitch if a batter motioned for time.

By Wednesday, when Pettitte started the series finale, "I think everybody knew not to step out [of the batter’s box]," Pettitte said. As for West’s comments, "those are pretty bold statements … but I really don’t know what to say about it."

Manager Joe Girardi suggested that West might face a reprimand from Major League Baseball for his comments.

"Obviously he was upset with the pace of the game. It was his choice of words. He didn’t call me pathetic or embarrassing. He was not derogatory to me in a sense, or to the players."

But Girardi found the statements by West as curious as Jeter did.

"We’re trying to win games," Girardi said, and the Red Sox and Yankees "are two organizations that really focus on hitters that work the count.

"And when you have six starters [over the three-game series] that go an average of five innings and throw 100 pitches, the game is going to move slow."

Girardi has respect for baseball’s initiatives to speed up the game where possible – such as a manager making a pitching change on his way to the mound. But there also are inherent time lengtheners within any Sox-Yanks game, such as added commercial time during national broadcasts.

"The things we’re able to do, we’re trying to speed up the game," Girardi said. "But we’re trying to win games, not see how quickly they can go.

"We’re not going to ask our hitters to change their approach to speed up the game," Girardi said. "I’m not going to tell the hitter to go up and see one pitch and make an out or get a base hit, I’m in a hurry, I’ve got to go someplace."

Likewise, Girardi didn’t want to see a ball called on a pitcher who overran his allotted time by repeatedly shaking off his catcher.

While West admitted that taking pitches is part of the Yankees’ and Red Sox’ strategy, he also complained that "all of baseball looks to these two clubs to pick up the pace…The players aren’t working with us.

"This is embarrassing, a disgrace to baseball."

VDesai @ 4/10/2010 7:23 PM
CC was brilliant today.
Finestrg @ 4/10/2010 8:02 PM
VDesai wrote:CC was brilliant today.

He was AWESOME. After A-Rod made that diving play to rob Longoria of that double, I really thought CC was gonna do it...Oh well. The guy's a horse, an absolute stud - he gave us exactly what we needed today after that stinker last night..Nice to see Tex get it going with the bat as well today...

TMS @ 4/10/2010 8:19 PM
missed the game but looks like CC had it going on today... 1 hit shutout through 7.2 against a tough lineup... wow... anyone still upset that we missed out on Johan Santana?
TMS @ 4/10/2010 11:03 PM
updates on Matsui & Damon:

Godzilla getting his King Kong on so far in LA:
.409 BA / 2 HR / 4 RBI / .435 OBP / .773 SLG / 1.208 OPS / 1 BB / 2 K / 0 SB / 22 ABs

Damon off to a slow start in DET:
.150 BA / 0 HR / 2 RBI / .261 OBP / .200 SLG / .461 OPS / 3 BB / 4 K / 0 SB / 20 ABs


meanwhile, on the homefront:

Nick the Stick?:
.111 BA / 0 HR / 2 RBI / .360 OBP / .167 SLG / .527 OPS / 6 BB / 6 K / 0 SB / 18 ABs

knicks1248 @ 4/11/2010 10:51 AM
TMS wrote:missed the game but looks like CC had it going on today... 1 hit shutout through 7.2 against a tough lineup... wow... anyone still upset that we missed out on Johan Santana?

LOL....

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