BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:Every day I'm getting multiple spam texts and emails.No, I don't want to donate to Trump. No, I don't want to claim my ****ing Trump flag. Please go **** yourselves.
**** Trump, and **** the entire Republican party. **** 98% of their supporters.
Bot's been infected. Martin knows what he needs to do when he's done with the edibles.
I checked out RealGM the other day. I'm gonna need something stronger than that!
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:ToddTT wrote:Every day I'm getting multiple spam texts and emails.No, I don't want to donate to Trump. No, I don't want to claim my ****ing Trump flag. Please go **** yourselves.
**** Trump, and **** the entire Republican party. **** 98% of their supporters.
Bot's been infected. Martin knows what he needs to do when he's done with the edibles.
Whiskey?
Now we’re talking. Keep pouring until… October.
Feel the difference, choose wisely
Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a team player and won't be accused of trying to steal Kamala's shine.
gradyandrew wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a team player and won't be accused of trying to steal Kamala's shine.
he's actually a real public servant who like wants the country to be better for the people who live in it
GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah it was close but I think he got my vote
Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
A centrist is someone who was a republican before trump
Philc1 wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
A centrist is someone who was a republican before trump
Right, and before that they were actually what non-progressive Dems are today.
martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues.
Where is the starting point?
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues.
Where is the starting point?
Thats a good question. I'd say to the right of AOC.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues.
Where is the starting point?
Thats a good question. I'd say to the right of AOC.
The United States needs to move the conversation beyond Left, Center, Right.
If a regulation is not working for America particularly well, I don't know one person who wouldn't want that regulation taken away. If there is something that helps the economy, I don't know why we wouldn't vote for that regulation.
The conversation should be about what moves us forward, not the label stuff.
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues.
Where is the starting point?
Thats a good question. I'd say to the right of AOC.
The United States needs to move the conversation beyond Left, Center, Right.
If a regulation is not working for America particularly well, I don't know one person who wouldn't want that regulation taken away. If there is something that helps the economy, I don't know why we wouldn't vote for that regulation.
The conversation should be about what moves us forward, not the label stuff.
Agree. This might have helped sink Kelly with Labor. He changed his tune after he was on the VP short list. I dont believe there are hard and fast rules for what defines a centrist, but this might be a tell..
Only 3 Democrats refused to sign on to the Pro Act, one of whom was Mark Kelly," Bensinger said on Sunday, after Harris announced her candidacy. "The right to organize unions is the most important thing to labor so that's a hard no."
The problem is that the GOP has moved so far to the right over the last 25 years or so, that people who were once considered centrist are now considered left to far left. The GOPs neverending stampede to the right has redefined what it means to be part of the center.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues.
Where is the starting point?
Thats a good question. I'd say to the right of AOC.
The United States needs to move the conversation beyond Left, Center, Right.
If a regulation is not working for America particularly well, I don't know one person who wouldn't want that regulation taken away. If there is something that helps the economy, I don't know why we wouldn't vote for that regulation.
The conversation should be about what moves us forward, not the label stuff.
Agree. This might have helped sink Kelly with Labor. He changed his tune after he was on the VP short list. I dont believe there are hard and fast rules for what defines a centrist, but this might be a tell..
Only 3 Democrats refused to sign on to the Pro Act, one of whom was Mark Kelly," Bensinger said on Sunday, after Harris announced her candidacy. "The right to organize unions is the most important thing to labor so that's a hard no."
The problem is that the GOP has moved so far to the right over the last 25 years or so, that people who were once considered centrist are now considered left to far left. The GOPs neverending stampede to the right has redefined what it means to be part of the center.
It's possible but there are like 1000 things that are brought to the table from each candidate, positive and not so positive. Pinpointing to anything is not really substantial.
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/opini...
Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas)
Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH
More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues.
Where is the starting point?
Thats a good question. I'd say to the right of AOC.
The United States needs to move the conversation beyond Left, Center, Right.
If a regulation is not working for America particularly well, I don't know one person who wouldn't want that regulation taken away. If there is something that helps the economy, I don't know why we wouldn't vote for that regulation.
The conversation should be about what moves us forward, not the label stuff.
Agree. This might have helped sink Kelly with Labor. He changed his tune after he was on the VP short list. I dont believe there are hard and fast rules for what defines a centrist, but this might be a tell..
Only 3 Democrats refused to sign on to the Pro Act, one of whom was Mark Kelly," Bensinger said on Sunday, after Harris announced her candidacy. "The right to organize unions is the most important thing to labor so that's a hard no."
The problem is that the GOP has moved so far to the right over the last 25 years or so, that people who were once considered centrist are now considered left to far left. The GOPs neverending stampede to the right has redefined what it means to be part of the center.
It's possible but there are like 1000 things that are brought to the table from each candidate, positive and not so positive. Pinpointing to anything is not really substantial.
As I said, there are no hard and fast rules.
I suppose its a bit too late for GOP to ask Trump to back away?
The man is coming undone.
He will lose the popular vote has he has twice now. Its swing states that will determine the electoral college.
Rest assured she will do interviews.
I cannot imagine Trump doing all three debates.
His rants at Mari Lago yesterday appeared to be a dude who was jacked stimulants.
Nalod wrote:I suppose its a bit too late for GOP to ask Trump to back away?
The man is coming undone.
He will lose the popular vote has he has twice now. Its swing states that will determine the electoral college. Rest assured she will do interviews.
I cannot imagine Trump doing all three debates.
His rants at Mari Lago yesterday appeared to be a dude who was jacked stimulants.
The GOP chances have always been tied to the public appeal of the Conman Trump. Outside of that, they don't have anyone that can garner the appeal to win an election. Which is why they stick with the convicted felon through his crimes & his stupidity + cognitive decline.
Dems on the other hand have multiple people that can garner decent amount public appeal going forward. Harris, Walz, Shapiro, Newsome, Buttigieg, AOC. But Dems need to have learned their lesson toward the sentiments that allowed Trump to gain office to begin with. Or they will set themselves up for the same failures where people protest vote for the other side out of spite.
